Convertible top not working
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I own a 2008 xkr occasionally the top will open about an inch and then get stuck re closing and then re opening normally sorts the problem and on occasion I would have to release the pump and put it down manually as per the instructions in the manual.
This has just happened again except the tourniquet cover which normally easily opens wouldn’t I then pulled the cable in the boot which did give but still the cover wouldn’t move I then pushed the button to close the roof and it locked down and closed the windows.I then pressed the button to open the roof and as per normal the back windows went down and then nothing more happened I then noted the “Hood not latched” error msg and my back windows are still open.
The manual says not to open it manually so if anyone knows how to sort this please let me know as I live in South Africa and a fair way away from the dealership
Thanks
This has just happened again except the tourniquet cover which normally easily opens wouldn’t I then pulled the cable in the boot which did give but still the cover wouldn’t move I then pushed the button to close the roof and it locked down and closed the windows.I then pressed the button to open the roof and as per normal the back windows went down and then nothing more happened I then noted the “Hood not latched” error msg and my back windows are still open.
The manual says not to open it manually so if anyone knows how to sort this please let me know as I live in South Africa and a fair way away from the dealership
Thanks
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Try the following first:
-Remove fuse F8 from the fusebox between the rear seats for 15 seconds and then reinsert it.
-Then hold the top close button for a full 2 minutes.
-Then reset the front windows by lowering them both and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach bottom, then by raising them and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach the top. Repeat this 3 or 4 times.
-Now hold the top open button and see if everything is back to normal.
-Remove fuse F8 from the fusebox between the rear seats for 15 seconds and then reinsert it.
-Then hold the top close button for a full 2 minutes.
-Then reset the front windows by lowering them both and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach bottom, then by raising them and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach the top. Repeat this 3 or 4 times.
-Now hold the top open button and see if everything is back to normal.
Last edited by WhiteXKR; 07-03-2020 at 10:02 AM.
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Try the following first:
-Remove fuse F8 from between the rear windows for 15 seconds and then reinsert it.
-Then hold the top close button for a full 2 minutes.
-Then reset the front windows by lowering them both and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach bottom, then by raising them and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach the top. Repeat this 3 or 4 times.
-Now hold the top open button and see if everything is back to normal.
-Remove fuse F8 from between the rear windows for 15 seconds and then reinsert it.
-Then hold the top close button for a full 2 minutes.
-Then reset the front windows by lowering them both and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach bottom, then by raising them and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach the top. Repeat this 3 or 4 times.
-Now hold the top open button and see if everything is back to normal.
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Try the following first:
-Remove fuse F8 from between the rear windows for 15 seconds and then reinsert it.
-Then hold the top close button for a full 2 minutes.
-Then reset the front windows by lowering them both and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach bottom, then by raising them and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach the top. Repeat this 3 or 4 times.
-Now hold the top open button and see if everything is back to normal.
-Remove fuse F8 from between the rear windows for 15 seconds and then reinsert it.
-Then hold the top close button for a full 2 minutes.
-Then reset the front windows by lowering them both and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach bottom, then by raising them and continuing to hold the window buttons for 5 seconds after they reach the top. Repeat this 3 or 4 times.
-Now hold the top open button and see if everything is back to normal.
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Please be sure the boot is shut, the luggage cover is in place and the pump was returned to automatic mode.
If the problem still remains, you are going to need to try again to manually put the top down, then put the pump back to automatic. This is the RESET position and it should recover now that the electronics is all reset.
If the problem still remains, you are going to need to try again to manually put the top down, then put the pump back to automatic. This is the RESET position and it should recover now that the electronics is all reset.
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Thanks again boot was closed back pump Allen’s key closed full clockwise I am not sure which setting is “automatic “ on the pump?
i have also read the info on dropping the rod manually which seems like the last resort but had no clue what they were referring to when they say push down on the rams I assume they mean on top of the roof covering behind the back windows but I can’t see what the rams are and in which direction they would move?
slso wondering if the fact that the tourniquet cable which I pulled out in an attempt to release the lid which didn’t work but is still fully extended is not part of the problem?
Regards
Pete
i have also read the info on dropping the rod manually which seems like the last resort but had no clue what they were referring to when they say push down on the rams I assume they mean on top of the roof covering behind the back windows but I can’t see what the rams are and in which direction they would move?
slso wondering if the fact that the tourniquet cable which I pulled out in an attempt to release the lid which didn’t work but is still fully extended is not part of the problem?
Regards
Pete
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Thanks again boot was closed back pump Allen’s key closed full clockwise I am not sure which setting is “automatic “ on the pump?
i have also read the info on dropping the rod manually which seems like the last resort but had no clue what they were referring to when they say push down on the rams I assume they mean on top of the roof covering behind the back windows but I can’t see what the rams are and in which direction they would move?
slso wondering if the fact that the tourniquet cable which I pulled out in an attempt to release the lid which didn’t work but is still fully extended is not part of the problem?
Regards
Pete
i have also read the info on dropping the rod manually which seems like the last resort but had no clue what they were referring to when they say push down on the rams I assume they mean on top of the roof covering behind the back windows but I can’t see what the rams are and in which direction they would move?
slso wondering if the fact that the tourniquet cable which I pulled out in an attempt to release the lid which didn’t work but is still fully extended is not part of the problem?
Regards
Pete
Make sure you are referencing the manual top down instructions from the correct owners manual for your model. Direct pressure on the rams is only necessary on the early X100 convertibles, not on an X150 2008 convertible.
The one thing that is left out of the manual top down instructions in the owners manual is that you need to wait up to 30 minutes after putting the pump in manual for the pressure in the system to bleed off so the top and the tonneau cover can be moved.
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[QUOTE=Hermanus;2256548] ... wondering if the fact that the tourniquet cable which I pulled out in an attempt to release the lid which didn’t work but is still fully extended is not part of the problem?
Regards
Pete[/QUOTE
tourniquet or tonneau? I suspect that's the problem, but that's just a guess.
Regards
Pete[/QUOTE
tourniquet or tonneau? I suspect that's the problem, but that's just a guess.
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[QUOTE=Stuart S;2256552]
yes I can’t spell and it’s the darn spellcheck
... wondering if the fact that the tourniquet cable which I pulled out in an attempt to release the lid which didn’t work but is still fully extended is not part of the problem?
Regards
Pete[/QUOTE
tourniquet or tonneau? I suspect that's the problem, but that's just a guess.
Regards
Pete[/QUOTE
tourniquet or tonneau? I suspect that's the problem, but that's just a guess.
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Full clockwise is automatic.
Make sure you are referencing the manual top down instructions from the correct owners manual for your model. Direct pressure on the rams is only necessary on the early X100 convertibles, not on an X150 2008 convertible.
The one thing that is left out of the manual top down instructions in the owners manual is that you need to wait up to 30 minutes after putting the pump in manual for the pressure in the system to bleed off so the top and the tonneau cover can be moved.
Make sure you are referencing the manual top down instructions from the correct owners manual for your model. Direct pressure on the rams is only necessary on the early X100 convertibles, not on an X150 2008 convertible.
The one thing that is left out of the manual top down instructions in the owners manual is that you need to wait up to 30 minutes after putting the pump in manual for the pressure in the system to bleed off so the top and the tonneau cover can be moved.
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I have been going through this exact issue, and am going through it still. Some tips that I've learned and seem to help:
- didn't know about the 30-minute-wait after opening the fluid reservoir thing - I seem to be doing OK without it. I hope I'm not messing anything up.
- As far as I can tell, a "turn" of the allen wrench seems to mean a 360-degree rotation. On my fluid reservoir, it seems like it's about a trun-and-a-half to fully open. (it will stop turning and I assume don't force it.)
- when you pull that cable to release the tonneau, pull straight BACK (toward the rear of the car) and not IN (toward the center of the trunk). Somehow pulling it toward the center, which feels like "away" from where it's hanging, seemed to make sense, but no. Pull rearward. Pull fairly hard. It will release.
- when you're sitting in the car and are going to release the front using the allen wrench, you're gonna have to crank that thing a LOT. Like 20 full-360 counter-clockwise turns. Just start turning---spin it kind of fast, it's OK. Those two hooks will slowly release.
- it's for sure easier to do the next part with two people but it can be done alone: with one hand, life the FRONT of the top a few inches. This will take pressure off the BACK of the top, allowing you to lift it further with the other hand. Just remember: front first. Once the back is about a foot or so up, you've got enough clearance to lift the tonneau. Once that's up, drop the back part of the top back down, then lift the front up and all the way over into the compartment. (If you've ever owned a manual top, this will feel familiar) Then close the tonneau and you're good to go.
(My issue: my top will open, but will only close to within about an inch, just before the last part of the sequence when it's supposed to latch. It's close enough that I can pull it down and use the wrench to crank it closed. And I have the hated Red Triangle. Problem is, since the car thinks it's not closed, it typically won't raise the rear windows. BUT BUT... every now and then after I've manually closed it I'll press that toggle switch toward "close" to see if the red triangle will go away-- and a few days ago, it WORKED! front windows down, rear windows up, front windows back up, and Red Triangle gone! I haven't wanted to risk it so I've been driving the car as a coupe for the past week. No top down for me...)
- didn't know about the 30-minute-wait after opening the fluid reservoir thing - I seem to be doing OK without it. I hope I'm not messing anything up.
- As far as I can tell, a "turn" of the allen wrench seems to mean a 360-degree rotation. On my fluid reservoir, it seems like it's about a trun-and-a-half to fully open. (it will stop turning and I assume don't force it.)
- when you pull that cable to release the tonneau, pull straight BACK (toward the rear of the car) and not IN (toward the center of the trunk). Somehow pulling it toward the center, which feels like "away" from where it's hanging, seemed to make sense, but no. Pull rearward. Pull fairly hard. It will release.
- when you're sitting in the car and are going to release the front using the allen wrench, you're gonna have to crank that thing a LOT. Like 20 full-360 counter-clockwise turns. Just start turning---spin it kind of fast, it's OK. Those two hooks will slowly release.
- it's for sure easier to do the next part with two people but it can be done alone: with one hand, life the FRONT of the top a few inches. This will take pressure off the BACK of the top, allowing you to lift it further with the other hand. Just remember: front first. Once the back is about a foot or so up, you've got enough clearance to lift the tonneau. Once that's up, drop the back part of the top back down, then lift the front up and all the way over into the compartment. (If you've ever owned a manual top, this will feel familiar) Then close the tonneau and you're good to go.
(My issue: my top will open, but will only close to within about an inch, just before the last part of the sequence when it's supposed to latch. It's close enough that I can pull it down and use the wrench to crank it closed. And I have the hated Red Triangle. Problem is, since the car thinks it's not closed, it typically won't raise the rear windows. BUT BUT... every now and then after I've manually closed it I'll press that toggle switch toward "close" to see if the red triangle will go away-- and a few days ago, it WORKED! front windows down, rear windows up, front windows back up, and Red Triangle gone! I haven't wanted to risk it so I've been driving the car as a coupe for the past week. No top down for me...)
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I have been going through this exact issue, and am going through it still. Some tips that I've learned and seem to help:
- didn't know about the 30-minute-wait after opening the fluid reservoir thing - I seem to be doing OK without it. I hope I'm not messing anything up.
- As far as I can tell, a "turn" of the allen wrench seems to mean a 360-degree rotation. On my fluid reservoir, it seems like it's about a trun-and-a-half to fully open. (it will stop turning and I assume don't force it.)
- when you pull that cable to release the tonneau, pull straight BACK (toward the rear of the car) and not IN (toward the center of the trunk). Somehow pulling it toward the center, which feels like "away" from where it's hanging, seemed to make sense, but no. Pull rearward. Pull fairly hard. It will release.
- when you're sitting in the car and are going to release the front using the allen wrench, you're gonna have to crank that thing a LOT. Like 20 full-360 counter-clockwise turns. Just start turning---spin it kind of fast, it's OK. Those two hooks will slowly release.
- it's for sure easier to do the next part with two people but it can be done alone: with one hand, life the FRONT of the top a few inches. This will take pressure off the BACK of the top, allowing you to lift it further with the other hand. Just remember: front first. Once the back is about a foot or so up, you've got enough clearance to lift the tonneau. Once that's up, drop the back part of the top back down, then lift the front up and all the way over into the compartment. (If you've ever owned a manual top, this will feel familiar) Then close the tonneau and you're good to go.
(My issue: my top will open, but will only close to within about an inch, just before the last part of the sequence when it's supposed to latch. It's close enough that I can pull it down and use the wrench to crank it closed. And I have the hated Red Triangle. Problem is, since the car thinks it's not closed, it typically won't raise the rear windows. BUT BUT... every now and then after I've manually closed it I'll press that toggle switch toward "close" to see if the red triangle will go away-- and a few days ago, it WORKED! front windows down, rear windows up, front windows back up, and Red Triangle gone! I haven't wanted to risk it so I've been driving the car as a coupe for the past week. No top down for me...)
- didn't know about the 30-minute-wait after opening the fluid reservoir thing - I seem to be doing OK without it. I hope I'm not messing anything up.
- As far as I can tell, a "turn" of the allen wrench seems to mean a 360-degree rotation. On my fluid reservoir, it seems like it's about a trun-and-a-half to fully open. (it will stop turning and I assume don't force it.)
- when you pull that cable to release the tonneau, pull straight BACK (toward the rear of the car) and not IN (toward the center of the trunk). Somehow pulling it toward the center, which feels like "away" from where it's hanging, seemed to make sense, but no. Pull rearward. Pull fairly hard. It will release.
- when you're sitting in the car and are going to release the front using the allen wrench, you're gonna have to crank that thing a LOT. Like 20 full-360 counter-clockwise turns. Just start turning---spin it kind of fast, it's OK. Those two hooks will slowly release.
- it's for sure easier to do the next part with two people but it can be done alone: with one hand, life the FRONT of the top a few inches. This will take pressure off the BACK of the top, allowing you to lift it further with the other hand. Just remember: front first. Once the back is about a foot or so up, you've got enough clearance to lift the tonneau. Once that's up, drop the back part of the top back down, then lift the front up and all the way over into the compartment. (If you've ever owned a manual top, this will feel familiar) Then close the tonneau and you're good to go.
(My issue: my top will open, but will only close to within about an inch, just before the last part of the sequence when it's supposed to latch. It's close enough that I can pull it down and use the wrench to crank it closed. And I have the hated Red Triangle. Problem is, since the car thinks it's not closed, it typically won't raise the rear windows. BUT BUT... every now and then after I've manually closed it I'll press that toggle switch toward "close" to see if the red triangle will go away-- and a few days ago, it WORKED! front windows down, rear windows up, front windows back up, and Red Triangle gone! I haven't wanted to risk it so I've been driving the car as a coupe for the past week. No top down for me...)
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I have been going through this exact issue, and am going through it still. Some tips that I've learned and seem to help:
- didn't know about the 30-minute-wait after opening the fluid reservoir thing - I seem to be doing OK without it. I hope I'm not messing anything up.
- As far as I can tell, a "turn" of the allen wrench seems to mean a 360-degree rotation. On my fluid reservoir, it seems like it's about a trun-and-a-half to fully open. (it will stop turning and I assume don't force it.)
- when you pull that cable to release the tonneau, pull straight BACK (toward the rear of the car) and not IN (toward the center of the trunk). Somehow pulling it toward the center, which feels like "away" from where it's hanging, seemed to make sense, but no. Pull rearward. Pull fairly hard. It will release.
- when you're sitting in the car and are going to release the front using the allen wrench, you're gonna have to crank that thing a LOT. Like 20 full-360 counter-clockwise turns. Just start turning---spin it kind of fast, it's OK. Those two hooks will slowly release.
- it's for sure easier to do the next part with two people but it can be done alone: with one hand, life the FRONT of the top a few inches. This will take pressure off the BACK of the top, allowing you to lift it further with the other hand. Just remember: front first. Once the back is about a foot or so up, you've got enough clearance to lift the tonneau. Once that's up, drop the back part of the top back down, then lift the front up and all the way over into the compartment. (If you've ever owned a manual top, this will feel familiar) Then close the tonneau and you're good to go.
(My issue: my top will open, but will only close to within about an inch, just before the last part of the sequence when it's supposed to latch. It's close enough that I can pull it down and use the wrench to crank it closed. And I have the hated Red Triangle. Problem is, since the car thinks it's not closed, it typically won't raise the rear windows. BUT BUT... every now and then after I've manually closed it I'll press that toggle switch toward "close" to see if the red triangle will go away-- and a few days ago, it WORKED! front windows down, rear windows up, front windows back up, and Red Triangle gone! I haven't wanted to risk it so I've been driving the car as a coupe for the past week. No top down for me...)
- didn't know about the 30-minute-wait after opening the fluid reservoir thing - I seem to be doing OK without it. I hope I'm not messing anything up.
- As far as I can tell, a "turn" of the allen wrench seems to mean a 360-degree rotation. On my fluid reservoir, it seems like it's about a trun-and-a-half to fully open. (it will stop turning and I assume don't force it.)
- when you pull that cable to release the tonneau, pull straight BACK (toward the rear of the car) and not IN (toward the center of the trunk). Somehow pulling it toward the center, which feels like "away" from where it's hanging, seemed to make sense, but no. Pull rearward. Pull fairly hard. It will release.
- when you're sitting in the car and are going to release the front using the allen wrench, you're gonna have to crank that thing a LOT. Like 20 full-360 counter-clockwise turns. Just start turning---spin it kind of fast, it's OK. Those two hooks will slowly release.
- it's for sure easier to do the next part with two people but it can be done alone: with one hand, life the FRONT of the top a few inches. This will take pressure off the BACK of the top, allowing you to lift it further with the other hand. Just remember: front first. Once the back is about a foot or so up, you've got enough clearance to lift the tonneau. Once that's up, drop the back part of the top back down, then lift the front up and all the way over into the compartment. (If you've ever owned a manual top, this will feel familiar) Then close the tonneau and you're good to go.
(My issue: my top will open, but will only close to within about an inch, just before the last part of the sequence when it's supposed to latch. It's close enough that I can pull it down and use the wrench to crank it closed. And I have the hated Red Triangle. Problem is, since the car thinks it's not closed, it typically won't raise the rear windows. BUT BUT... every now and then after I've manually closed it I'll press that toggle switch toward "close" to see if the red triangle will go away-- and a few days ago, it WORKED! front windows down, rear windows up, front windows back up, and Red Triangle gone! I haven't wanted to risk it so I've been driving the car as a coupe for the past week. No top down for me...)
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While my problem seems to be recurring (I'm waiting to get back to my regular mechanics to have it addressed), yours may not be. I say go for it! Open it up! (Now that you're getting comfortable with the whole "manual" thing, resetting it will be easier -- IF you need to do it again...)
Let us know how it goes.
Let us know how it goes.
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While my problem seems to be recurring (I'm waiting to get back to my regular mechanics to have it addressed), yours may not be. I say go for it! Open it up! (Now that you're getting comfortable with the whole "manual" thing, resetting it will be easier -- IF you need to do it again...)
Let us know how it goes.
Let us know how it goes.
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