Corvette Z06 Owner looking to make the switch to an XKR- Advice needed PLS and TY
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Corvette Z06 Owner looking to make the switch to an XKR- Advice needed PLS and TY
Hey guys
not sure what it is , maybe its because the 07-09 xkr's are becoming more and more affordable, or perhaps its just that I want to get into something with both speed and luxury, but im really considering an XKR as my next vehicle.
Im a lexus guy at heart, I got into the C5 corvettes for something a little more fun, but they really lack the refinement of a luxury vehicle so im wondering what sort of issues can I expect from an 07-09 XKR?
Been trolling the forums for a while and I have to admit, the XKR's don't seem to be having the same catastrophic issues that have plagued other jags
I don't see any tranny issues, engine isssues, seems like a lot of minor stuff , electrical gremlins etc...
My main concern is the drivetrain, engine ,tranny, etc....
Is there anything I need to look out for when purchasing one of these?
Do they need timing belt replacement?
Is the engine forged?
Is there any way to safely turn up the boost on the supercharger?
Any ingo would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
not sure what it is , maybe its because the 07-09 xkr's are becoming more and more affordable, or perhaps its just that I want to get into something with both speed and luxury, but im really considering an XKR as my next vehicle.
Im a lexus guy at heart, I got into the C5 corvettes for something a little more fun, but they really lack the refinement of a luxury vehicle so im wondering what sort of issues can I expect from an 07-09 XKR?
Been trolling the forums for a while and I have to admit, the XKR's don't seem to be having the same catastrophic issues that have plagued other jags
I don't see any tranny issues, engine isssues, seems like a lot of minor stuff , electrical gremlins etc...
My main concern is the drivetrain, engine ,tranny, etc....
Is there anything I need to look out for when purchasing one of these?
Do they need timing belt replacement?
Is the engine forged?
Is there any way to safely turn up the boost on the supercharger?
Any ingo would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
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The issues that seem to pop up the most on the 07-09's on this forum seem to be as follows:
1. Electrical/electronic gremlins caused by tired (undercharged) battery. Solution, acquire a battery tender such as a Deltek or Ctek. Both can be bought on Amazon for less than $100US with any accessories you might want. Very easy installation, then plug in when your jag is going to sit idle for any length of time.
2. Water pump failure. may happen anytime from 30k miles on. Be very aware of coolant odor, leaks etc. If it should happen be sure you get the latest water pump for the 4.2L engine
3. Clogged duck bill in condensate outlet. Solution, cut duckbill off or make other modification. There are several threads on this forum regarding this issue.
4. Dashboard pulling (bubbling). Jaguar didn't fasten the leather with staples and the adhesive fails. Usually happens in hot climates, may not be an issue in Toronto. Solution, remove dash pull leather covering tight and staple leather to cowl.
That's all I can think of offhand. Good hunting and be patient.
1. Electrical/electronic gremlins caused by tired (undercharged) battery. Solution, acquire a battery tender such as a Deltek or Ctek. Both can be bought on Amazon for less than $100US with any accessories you might want. Very easy installation, then plug in when your jag is going to sit idle for any length of time.
2. Water pump failure. may happen anytime from 30k miles on. Be very aware of coolant odor, leaks etc. If it should happen be sure you get the latest water pump for the 4.2L engine
3. Clogged duck bill in condensate outlet. Solution, cut duckbill off or make other modification. There are several threads on this forum regarding this issue.
4. Dashboard pulling (bubbling). Jaguar didn't fasten the leather with staples and the adhesive fails. Usually happens in hot climates, may not be an issue in Toronto. Solution, remove dash pull leather covering tight and staple leather to cowl.
That's all I can think of offhand. Good hunting and be patient.
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The 4.2L engine is well tested since it's been in Xk/XKRs since 2003, so that should put your mind at ease. It's an excellent engine and the entire drivetrain is well tried and true. Coming out of a Z06, you may want to consider the 5.0L cars that started in 2010. The power is stunning, the suspension is stiffer and a bit more taut, the look is bit more aggressive. With a $699 pulley/tune combination, you're pushing 600hp. Lots of fun in either case.
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My 2009 XKR has performed flawlessly without any problems whatsoever.
If your thinking about a 2007 to 2009, consider this 2009 XKR, which is one of my personal vehicles that I have for sale.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322208789597...AIT&rmvSB=true
Happy hunting for your XKR, you will not be disappointed in any way.
If your thinking about a 2007 to 2009, consider this 2009 XKR, which is one of my personal vehicles that I have for sale.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322208789597...AIT&rmvSB=true
Happy hunting for your XKR, you will not be disappointed in any way.
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The 4.2L engine is well tested since it's been in Xk/XKRs since 2003, so that should put your mind at ease. It's an excellent engine and the entire drivetrain is well tried and true. Coming out of a Z06, you may want to consider the 5.0L cars that started in 2010. The power is stunning, the suspension is stiffer and a bit more taut, the look is bit more aggressive. With a $699 pulley/tune combination, you're pushing 600hp. Lots of fun in either case.
that's good to know , engine/tanny/drivetrain is what I care most about
Is there a pulley tune combo for the 4.2's as well?
Id love a newer model but its out of my price range, I will end up in an 07-09 model, just wanting to get an idea of what to becareful of
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The issues that seem to pop up the most on the 07-09's on this forum seem to be as follows:
1. Electrical/electronic gremlins caused by tired (undercharged) battery. Solution, acquire a battery tender such as a Deltek or Ctek. Both can be bought on Amazon for less than $100US with any accessories you might want. Very easy installation, then plug in when your jag is going to sit idle for any length of time.
2. Water pump failure. may happen anytime from 30k miles on. Be very aware of coolant odor, leaks etc. If it should happen be sure you get the latest water pump for the 4.2L engine
3. Clogged duck bill in condensate outlet. Solution, cut duckbill off or make other modification. There are several threads on this forum regarding this issue.
4. Dashboard pulling (bubbling). Jaguar didn't fasten the leather with staples and the adhesive fails. Usually happens in hot climates, may not be an issue in Toronto. Solution, remove dash pull leather covering tight and staple leather to cowl.
That's all I can think of offhand. Good hunting and be patient.
1. Electrical/electronic gremlins caused by tired (undercharged) battery. Solution, acquire a battery tender such as a Deltek or Ctek. Both can be bought on Amazon for less than $100US with any accessories you might want. Very easy installation, then plug in when your jag is going to sit idle for any length of time.
2. Water pump failure. may happen anytime from 30k miles on. Be very aware of coolant odor, leaks etc. If it should happen be sure you get the latest water pump for the 4.2L engine
3. Clogged duck bill in condensate outlet. Solution, cut duckbill off or make other modification. There are several threads on this forum regarding this issue.
4. Dashboard pulling (bubbling). Jaguar didn't fasten the leather with staples and the adhesive fails. Usually happens in hot climates, may not be an issue in Toronto. Solution, remove dash pull leather covering tight and staple leather to cowl.
That's all I can think of offhand. Good hunting and be patient.
sounds minor enough
Ever hear of the 4.2 guys blowing an engine or tranny?
That's my main concern
thanks
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If you're a Lexus guy at heart you'll find the XK/XKR far superior in handling and feel... if you're a former vette guy you'll find it is FAR superior in fit/finish/refinement as this car wasn't built by disgruntled union workers sourcing parts from the cheapest bidder.
As for issues you inquired about... pretty much zero. No pattern or frequency of tranny or engine failure at all these cars are pretty much bullet proof
As for issues you inquired about... pretty much zero. No pattern or frequency of tranny or engine failure at all these cars are pretty much bullet proof
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If you're a Lexus guy at heart you'll find the XK/XKR far superior in handling and feel... if you're a former vette guy you'll find it is FAR superior in fit/finish/refinement as this car wasn't built by disgruntled union workers sourcing parts from the cheapest bidder.
As for issues you inquired about... pretty much zero. No pattern or frequency of tranny or engine failure at all these cars are pretty much bullet proof
As for issues you inquired about... pretty much zero. No pattern or frequency of tranny or engine failure at all these cars are pretty much bullet proof
Thanks man, that's great to hear
and you've pretty much nailed it , I have a lexus which is super reliable, great fit and finish, great engineering, but yes...a bit BORING to drive
Then theres the vette, super fun to drive, got the cool factor , the power and the looks, but the interior looks like it was put together by a 8th grader for his show and tell project
The Jag , im hoping would be sort of the in between for both, a luxurious car, with the power/fun and cool factor as well
My main concern like I said is the reliability factor, we all know jag isn't known for that, but so far im liking what im hearing
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That reputation was pretty spot-on for earlier Jags, it is far from reality with the X150 models (2007-2015). Reliability is always my primary criteria when looking at cars, even before performance or looks. These engines are fantastic in terms of reliability, the transmissions are ZF (used in many Chryslers, Audi's, Jeep, BMW, Maseratti's, Bentley's, Rolls Royce, etc)
Lexus makes a fine car but not "inspring", attractive, or exclusive. Great quality, fantastic dealership support (not always the case but by far and away rated the highest overall). Agreed on the vette interiors, sans the newest model which is leaps and bounds better. The quality of parts and assembly were FAR from good, touching any of the controls just feels so cheap, lots of rattles even when new but they went fast so most were willing to forego those things.
If performance is your thing you'll likely want to opt for the XKR... even more so the case you may want to go for the 2010-2015 which had the larger (5.0 vs 4.2L) SC engine. Personally I no longer desire to race (raced cars and sport bikes for years) so I opted for the 2007 XK with absolutely no regrets but that will be your personal choice. Even with a supercharger they are highly reliable surprisingly.
Bottom line is these cars are marvelous to drive and nothing like what the old ones were like. I'd suggest going to a local dealer that may have one listed and go drive it to decide for yourself... if you feel like most do here then take a look at the MANY posts (using the search feature) as to the best way to go about purchasing one, buyers tips, etc).
Lexus makes a fine car but not "inspring", attractive, or exclusive. Great quality, fantastic dealership support (not always the case but by far and away rated the highest overall). Agreed on the vette interiors, sans the newest model which is leaps and bounds better. The quality of parts and assembly were FAR from good, touching any of the controls just feels so cheap, lots of rattles even when new but they went fast so most were willing to forego those things.
If performance is your thing you'll likely want to opt for the XKR... even more so the case you may want to go for the 2010-2015 which had the larger (5.0 vs 4.2L) SC engine. Personally I no longer desire to race (raced cars and sport bikes for years) so I opted for the 2007 XK with absolutely no regrets but that will be your personal choice. Even with a supercharger they are highly reliable surprisingly.
Bottom line is these cars are marvelous to drive and nothing like what the old ones were like. I'd suggest going to a local dealer that may have one listed and go drive it to decide for yourself... if you feel like most do here then take a look at the MANY posts (using the search feature) as to the best way to go about purchasing one, buyers tips, etc).
#13
That reputation was pretty spot-on for earlier Jags, it is far from reality with the X150 models (2007-2015). Reliability is always my primary criteria when looking at cars, even before performance or looks. These engines are fantastic in terms of reliability, the transmissions are ZF (used in many Chryslers, Audi's, Jeep, BMW, Maseratti's, Bentley's, Rolls Royce, etc)
Lexus makes a fine car but not "inspring", attractive, or exclusive. Great quality, fantastic dealership support (not always the case but by far and away rated the highest overall). Agreed on the vette interiors, sans the newest model which is leaps and bounds better. The quality of parts and assembly were FAR from good, touching any of the controls just feels so cheap, lots of rattles even when new but they went fast so most were willing to forego those things.
If performance is your thing you'll likely want to opt for the XKR... even more so the case you may want to go for the 2010-2015 which had the larger (5.0 vs 4.2L) SC engine. Personally I no longer desire to race (raced cars and sport bikes for years) so I opted for the 2007 XK with absolutely no regrets but that will be your personal choice. Even with a supercharger they are highly reliable surprisingly.
Bottom line is these cars are marvelous to drive and nothing like what the old ones were like. I'd suggest going to a local dealer that may have one listed and go drive it to decide for yourself... if you feel like most do here then take a look at the MANY posts (using the search feature) as to the best way to go about purchasing one, buyers tips, etc).
Lexus makes a fine car but not "inspring", attractive, or exclusive. Great quality, fantastic dealership support (not always the case but by far and away rated the highest overall). Agreed on the vette interiors, sans the newest model which is leaps and bounds better. The quality of parts and assembly were FAR from good, touching any of the controls just feels so cheap, lots of rattles even when new but they went fast so most were willing to forego those things.
If performance is your thing you'll likely want to opt for the XKR... even more so the case you may want to go for the 2010-2015 which had the larger (5.0 vs 4.2L) SC engine. Personally I no longer desire to race (raced cars and sport bikes for years) so I opted for the 2007 XK with absolutely no regrets but that will be your personal choice. Even with a supercharger they are highly reliable surprisingly.
Bottom line is these cars are marvelous to drive and nothing like what the old ones were like. I'd suggest going to a local dealer that may have one listed and go drive it to decide for yourself... if you feel like most do here then take a look at the MANY posts (using the search feature) as to the best way to go about purchasing one, buyers tips, etc).
Im into power but not a racer, cant afford the newer models but the 07-09 xkR (supercharged) is a must, not interested in the XK , nice car but I want the blower.
My z06 is supercharged with a magnacharger, a top mounted blower similar to what the jag would have (im assuming), very reliable and still gets nearly 30mpg's, but its real rough and leaves a lot to desire as we both talked about already
I been trolling here silently for a while and im pretty surprised to see no real issues, like blown head gaskets, slipping trans etc... , so im just waiting for the right xkr to pop up and ill go check it out
Thanks again for the info , especially on the tranny, gonna do a lil research on it
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I looked for mine off and on for almost a year. I got to 3 that fit my needs - one in Arkansas, one local, and one in Detroit. I wound up getting the one in Detroit flying out there last December driving it home to San Diego. the point is that due to the few numbers made, fewer good examples, you may need/want to open up your search zone to ensure you find the finest example that fits your needs. Make sure to check it out well preferably have it PPI'd ) pre-purchase inspection) at a reputable Jag place whether that be with a good dealership or trustworthy indi. In the meantime go drive a XKR to make sure it fits your desires... if it does do your reading here and you'll find a wealth of info
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Since you want a 4.2, you should also look at the X100 section; as a number of guys there have done performance mods that may interest you.
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You're about 30 years behind the times. Jags from the 90s onwards are just as reliable as any other premium brand- including Lexus.
You don't hear anybody calling those 'Jap scrap' anymore, but the myths of Jags being unreliable live on. That's one big reason why the depreciation curve is so steep.
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You're about 30 years behind the times. Jags from the 90s onwards are just as reliable as any other premium brand- including Lexus.
You don't hear anybody calling those 'Jap scrap' anymore, but the myths of Jags being unreliable live on. That's one big reason why the depreciation curve is so steep.
You don't hear anybody calling those 'Jap scrap' anymore, but the myths of Jags being unreliable live on. That's one big reason why the depreciation curve is so steep.
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I sort of think he meant on a year-to-year basis. Of course a 1998 Jaguar won't compare to a 2016 Lexus, but the opposite is also true.
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What's happened is a two-fold punch, those brands achieved reliability pre 90s through simplicity. Once they joined the complex luxury gang, they had bigger problems. Secondly, in the 90's the automotive world became global and modular, big players entered the market and supplying all. Take ZF transmission for instance, not only do you get ultra reliable, you also get incredible performance- But here is the kicker, Jaguar was the early adopter of these parts sourced from best-of-breed external suppliers, since it had nothing.
Another huge element is that England has some of the best automotive minds in the world, not a lot of people know that. Lets take a current example, now that the field has been leveled, BMW has had a nightmare on its hands with its direct injection engines, you can set your watch by when the heads will need to be taken apart and cleaned of carbon. Around 50,000 miles, Jaguar engineers managed to entirely avoid that problem. And they have the higher HP beast.
Also, being the underdog, Jaguar lacks the engineering arrogance (the merc way of the highway) it shows in the reliability and at the parts counter.