DB9 vs XKR
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#162
A new Alfa dealership is moving down the road from my house. I am going to test drive a 4c in a couple of weeks. It would at least be new. I drive like 3K miles a year, so maybe a "toy" would be fine?
The white XKR is really nice, but having already owned an XK, it's not thrilling me as much as it should. Never owned two of the same car before. I know they aren't "the same", but you know what I mean.
The white XKR is really nice, but having already owned an XK, it's not thrilling me as much as it should. Never owned two of the same car before. I know they aren't "the same", but you know what I mean.
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A new Alfa dealership is moving down the road from my house. I am going to test drive a 4c in a couple of weeks. It would at least be new. I drive like 3K miles a year, so maybe a "toy" would be fine?
The white XKR is really nice, but having already owned an XK, it's not thrilling me as much as it should. Never owned two of the same car before. I know they aren't "the same", but you know what I mean.
The white XKR is really nice, but having already owned an XK, it's not thrilling me as much as it should. Never owned two of the same car before. I know they aren't "the same", but you know what I mean.
#166
The Alfa is such a different car than the X150. If you are in that market it is a whole different set of competitors. Boxster, F-Type, Lotus. The small, light, fast go-cart style car. You might as well throw the Vette in as an indirect competitor, simply because it is American and not exotic. If it was it would be direct.
#167
The brand of tire greatly effects the ability of the xkr to hook up. With the wrong tire you will be spinning rubber. I switched tires and now I can floor it with the traction control completely turned off and the tires do not break free.
#168
I went to the AM dealer today. I signed up for a greet and drive of the DB11 in September. This a car that the factory is making available ahead of the scheduled inventory cars in October. I looked at their current inventory of DB9, Vanquish, DBS and Vantage which was extensive. It was hard to tell them apart. I had to keep looking at the rear name plate to confirm the model. After half an hour of perusing I was unable to make an emotional attachment to any of them. I was hoping to fall in love but it didn't happen. I kept looking back at my XKR which was parked amongst them and said that's the car. Even an AM in the same white color didn't do it for me. Odd thing is when I looked for the first time last year I felt more for the AM than this time. Even sitting in it didn't feel as special as the first time as if the initial infatuation was wearing off. On the way home I stopped at the brand new Lexus dealership. The salesman, who has a passion for cars, saw mine parked outside and asked if he could see it. He asked to look inside and to see the engine too. He was out there for about 15 minutes and couldn't stop admiring it. He said the car has such clean lines and is absolutely gorgeous. This is probably why the current AMs couldn't seduce me today.
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On the way home I stopped at the brand new Lexus dealership. The salesman, who has a passion for cars, saw mine parked outside and asked if he could see it. He asked to look inside and to see the engine too. He was out there for about 15 minutes and couldn't stop admiring it. He said the car has such clean lines and is absolutely gorgeous.
#171
I would recommend a good set of high performance summer tyres to improve your traction. I had semi slicks and they didn't work as well for me. They would need massive burnouts to practically melt the rubber to get anywhere.
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#173
The Alfa is such a different car than the X150. If you are in that market it is a whole different set of competitors. Boxster, F-Type, Lotus. The small, light, fast go-cart style car. You might as well throw the Vette in as an indirect competitor, simply because it is American and not exotic. If it was it would be direct.
I am out of the country now, but may move forward on that XKR I saw when I return. It has very little service history, but service was included on warranty, so maybe the dealer did input the service to CarFax?
I have a few cars to test drive when I get back, but worst comes to worst, I keep the Lotus until the right car falls on my lap.
Last edited by mosesbotbol; 08-15-2016 at 03:51 AM.
#174
[QUOTE=mosesbotbol;1514788]A new Alfa dealership is moving down the road from my house. I am going to test drive a 4c in a couple of weeks. It would at least be new. I drive like 3K miles a year, so maybe a "toy" would be fine?
I think they look fantastic, but I drove a mate of mine just after he got it last year and frankly hated it. Noisy, rough and just totally unsophisticated. I was pleased to hand the keys back. Getting out of the thing is definitely a trial given the width of the sills.
But each to their own
I think they look fantastic, but I drove a mate of mine just after he got it last year and frankly hated it. Noisy, rough and just totally unsophisticated. I was pleased to hand the keys back. Getting out of the thing is definitely a trial given the width of the sills.
But each to their own
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[QUOTE=Ozmag;1516374]
Sounds like my experience when i test dtove the 360 modena
Loud , bumpy , uncomfortable and minimal creature comforts believe me i was also happy to hand the keys back !
A new Alfa dealership is moving down the road from my house. I am going to test drive a 4c in a couple of weeks. It would at least be new. I drive like 3K miles a year, so maybe a "toy" would be fine?
I think they look fantastic, but I drove a mate of mine just after he got it last year and frankly hated it. Noisy, rough and just totally unsophisticated. I was pleased to hand the keys back. Getting out of the thing is definitely a trial given the width of the sills.
But each to their own
I think they look fantastic, but I drove a mate of mine just after he got it last year and frankly hated it. Noisy, rough and just totally unsophisticated. I was pleased to hand the keys back. Getting out of the thing is definitely a trial given the width of the sills.
But each to their own
Loud , bumpy , uncomfortable and minimal creature comforts believe me i was also happy to hand the keys back !
#176
There not as bad as you may think. I have owned 3, my current one for 12 years, last month i did a 3200 mile road trip across europe as i do every year. Not one glitch or problem.
Servicing isnt as bad as the legends make out, especially if your handy with a spanner. And thats from an owner of one of the most high maintenance bitches
Servicing isnt as bad as the legends make out, especially if your handy with a spanner. And thats from an owner of one of the most high maintenance bitches
Seriously, if I knew what a spanner was I would be one step closer!
A guy on another forum bought a 2003 360 F1 Spider. Beautiful car, but he ended up with $20k in repairs his first year. This after researching a meticulously maintained car with low miles. He ended up getting out of the Ferrari world to get back to Earthly maintenance costs.
#177
While I was driving home from work today on the highway I saw another white XKR convertible. But when I got closer I realized it was a DB9. So similar that it had me fooled at first. From the back it is lower and has a nice road presence. I didn't mind following for awhile. Later I saw a white F-type on the road but it didnt have the same road presence.
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#178
Yeah, i do everything to my Italians, always have. Even full engine rebuilds, the only time i pay the ferrari tax is when i have to buy the parts In fact i used to write technical how to articals about my model on a couple of ferrari forums.
The XK scares me more with all its technology, but thats why i am here
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Ah, the magic wrench. That sounds like a great tool, I will have to try one. I typically use a hammer for all fixes so I am not going to qualify for a Ferrari!
Your F355 is beautiful and a classic. But I have no desire to become that technical in the maintenance of my cars. And I certainly do not want to spend the money for engine-out service for timing belt change, or valve guides, manifold, or the host of other diva issues that this beautiful lady requires!
Your F355 is beautiful and a classic. But I have no desire to become that technical in the maintenance of my cars. And I certainly do not want to spend the money for engine-out service for timing belt change, or valve guides, manifold, or the host of other diva issues that this beautiful lady requires!
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Fspider (08-17-2016)
#180
Ah, the magic wrench. That sounds like a great tool, I will have to try one. I typically use a hammer for all fixes so I am not going to qualify for a Ferrari!
Your F355 is beautiful and a classic. But I have no desire to become that technical in the maintenance of my cars. And I certainly do not want to spend the money for engine-out service for timing belt change, or valve guides, manifold, or the host of other diva issues that this beautiful lady requires!
Your F355 is beautiful and a classic. But I have no desire to become that technical in the maintenance of my cars. And I certainly do not want to spend the money for engine-out service for timing belt change, or valve guides, manifold, or the host of other diva issues that this beautiful lady requires!
Joking aside, 99% of F355s would have had there manifolds and valve guides done years ago, and this job is only done once during the cars life. Even then the guides are only done on cars between certain years that used a bad batch.
All cars have there idiosyncrasys, i mean one of the worst cars i had 8 years ago was a 2004 DB9, now that cars electronics made me cry
However you are quite right regarding cambelts, they have to be changed between 3-5 years. But thats a simple job done with either the engine in or out. I can do mine in a weekend.
Yes the F355s are a maintenance **** that will cost the uninitiated a packet in ferrari tax.