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Old 08-21-2020, 09:42 AM
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I purchased this DA dongle from Amazon because it says it works with Landrover scans. I talked to the guy and he said it would work with my 06 Rover and 07 XK. Has anyone used this one?

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I know some on here have said they use the J2354 dongle(which is what this is) and they got it for much cheaper than the Mongoose cable. Just wondering if everyone is getting something different from what I found.
 
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It's the correct number, J2534, so it MAY work. It doesn't seem to be any cheaper than an original Diagnostics Associates one (which is where the "DA" comes from), but who knows??? May be perfect.
HOWEVER......
No SDD software? Just a diagnostic tool with 'software"???? I dunno man, seems cheesy to me. FORD uses a program called FORSCAN, totally different than SDD, like not even one byte is similar.
 

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J2534 is an interface standard designed by the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers). The purpose was to create an API (Application Programming Interface) which allows the independent aftermarket the ability to reprogram ECM’s without being tied to the manufacturer's special dealer-only tool.

There's two levels of J2534:
1. J2534-1 defines features for a basic device that performs reprogramming of emission ECM's.

2. J2534-2 defines optional features for a device that additionally performs reprogramming on other non-emission modules.

Many low cost interfaces satisfy J2534-1. Once you go to J2534-2 interfaces, the cost escalates.
For example, compare the coverage of the Diagnostic Associates offerings. Two interfaces suitable for JLR. The fully functioned option is twice the cost:
https://www.diagnostic-associates.co...thru-interface

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Originally Posted by GGG
J2534 is an interface standard designed by the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers). The purpose was to create an API (Application Programming Interface) which allows the independent aftermarket the ability to reprogram ECM’s without being tied to the manufacturer's special dealer-only tool.

There's two levels of J2534:
1. J2534-1 defines features for a basic device that performs reprogramming of emission ECM's.

2. J2534-2 defines optional features for a device that additionally performs reprogramming on other non-emission modules.

Many low cost interfaces satisfy J2534-1. Once you go to J2534-2 interfaces, the cost escalates.
For example, compare the coverage of the Diagnostic Associates offerings. Two interfaces suitable for JLR. The fully functioned option is twice the cost:
https://www.diagnostic-associates.co...thru-interface

Graham
You can use Tetrixs open port 2.0 as well I believe but haven't tried
 
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For example, compare the coverage of the Diagnostic Associates offerings. Two interfaces suitable for JLR. The fully functioned option is twice the cost:
https://www.diagnostic-associates.co...thru-interface

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That's the one I bought a few years ago, works perfectly well for all programming and everything else I've done.
Course, I had to get SDD to use it. So again; thanks, person who helped me out on that (if you see this post). I GREATLY appreciate it.
 
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I have SDD on my laptop. For some reason when I go to login to the JLR SDD it ask me for my Topix login which I put in and then it ask me for my locksmith username and password. That's where I get stumped. I've been in contact with Topix but talking to them over email is like talking to someone when you're in another country.
 
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Do you have valid technician credentials and/or Jaguar certification? Having a Topix account does not automatically qualify you for diagnostics software access.
 
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Use it off-line. Can't verify if it can't ask for it
 
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Originally Posted by robbing
I have SDD on my laptop. For some reason when I go to login to the JLR SDD it ask me for my Topix login which I put in and then it ask me for my locksmith username and password. That's where I get stumped. I've been in contact with Topix but talking to them over email is like talking to someone when you're in another country.
I doubt anyone at JLR is working on SDD development or responding to issues at the moment. The last interim update 159.07 was released early in May. TOPIx is mostly automated and the facility to process payments for buying user access time is working very efficiently!

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Use it off-line. Can't verify if it can't ask for it
Cee Jay, which version are you using? I have 159 and have no clue how to use it offline. I have a feeling the dongle I'm trying to use won't work but I'm getting close. I have Topix engineer, the people I bought my dongle from and one other website guy helping me.
 
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I have V1.48.
To use offline, disconnect your internet connection. SDD will indicate No Connection, but will still work. Just can't download new files, but you should already have them anyway.
 
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I believe the later versions of SDD will ONLY work online which is why we can’t update to newer versions.
 
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The furthest back I can find is 149 so it looks like I'm just missing the cutoff. Will look around some more, surely it's out there somewhere.
 
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I believe the later versions of SDD will ONLY work online which is why we can’t update to newer versions.
A great reason to Never Update!
Newer files could be added manually in older versions, so no worry there.
 
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There's two ways to run SDD:

1. OFFICIAL: current version 1.59.07- online with a TOPIx subscription
2. PIRATED: version 1.50 or earlier - offline and cracked (I've seen later cracked versions advertised but note the limitation below)

From version 1.51 Jaguar changed delivery of SPA (Single Point Authoring). SPA and VDF (Vehicle Defibition Files) files are no longer included in version updates on the Diagnostic Delivery Server but are now automatically requested and downloaded as they are required.

SDD is free to download and install from the JLR server:
Index of /265935/idscentral

It will run for a maximum 24 hours before requiring a subscription.

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Many thanks for the clarification Graham. So all is required now is simply any Topix subscription and the latest SDD will be entirely functional?
 
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Originally Posted by GGG
There's two ways to run SDD:

1. OFFICIAL: current version 1.59.07- online with a TOPIx subscription
2. PIRATED: version 1.50 or earlier - offline and cracked (I've seen later cracked versions advertised but note the limitation below)

From version 1.51 Jaguar changed delivery of SPA (Single Point Authoring). SPA and VDF (Vehicle Defibition Files) files are no longer included in version updates on the Diagnostic Delivery Server but are now automatically requested and downloaded as they are required.

SDD is free to download and install from the JLR server:
Index of /265935/idscentral

It will run for a maximum 24 hours before requiring a subscription.

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Im running 159.07, it updates fine, loads a cal/asbuilt files from a server, but doesn't ask for a login/password. Its a matter of correct crack.
 
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Anyone using Windows 10 with 159 or do all of them require Windows 7?
 
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Anyone using Windows 10 with 159 or do all of them require Windows 7?
I just got the same dongle as you and it seems my computer can't recognize it nevermind load it in SDD software?
 
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Originally Posted by tonypro99
I just got the same dongle as you and it seems my computer can't recognize it nevermind load it in SDD software?
You have to load the DA Dongle drivers before you attempt to use it. Did you do that part?
 


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