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My 2007 XKR has vertical scratches on the window, not taken door apart yet but just checking is this a known issue, anyone else had it? I'm presuming something is badly adjusted / worn / other
 

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It's a known problem. See:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...indows-166517/

The scratches are caused by dirt that gets caught between the seal and the glass. There's a Technical Service Bulletin described in the above linked thread. A DIY repair may be possible to polish out light scratches.

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Originally Posted by Stuart S
It's a known problem. See:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...indows-166517/

The scratches are caused by dirt that gets caught between the seal and the glass. There's a Technical Service Bulletin described in the above linked thread. A DIY repair may be possible to polish out light scratches.

Good luck!
Thank you much appreciated. My scratches are deep, I'm probably going to have to change the glass. However its good to know it requires just a good clean out and careful behaviour - that bits easy enough for the sheltered life this car has.
 
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If the scratches are on one side only, you can try the adjust the glass inward/outward.

There is a nut/screw to adjust that position, but you need to take the inside door trim off to get to it.

 
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Every vehicle with moving windows can experience this, caused by, like Stuart said, dirt and grime stuck in the seals. Cleaning and conditioning those seals is part of my wash regimen on all my vehicles.
 
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Originally Posted by gkubrak
If the scratches are on one side only, you can try the adjust the glass inward/outward.

There is a nut/screw to adjust that position, but you need to take the inside door trim off to get to it.
Much appreciated, I'll take a look at the adjusters. My friend is a mechanic on modern stuff, suggested the same thing.
 

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Every vehicle with moving windows can experience this, caused by, like Stuart said, dirt and grime stuck in the seals. Cleaning and conditioning those seals is part of my wash regimen on all my vehicles.
Never had it before. I'll do the same in my cleaning regime as you suggest. Much appreciated, thanks
 
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Mix white toothpaste and baking soda to a paste then apply
 
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Mix white toothpaste and baking soda to a paste then apply
Never heard of this. Thank you I'll give it a try.
 
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Never heard of this. Thank you I'll give it a try.
Apply in an aggressive manner, for quite awhile, to somewhat polish the glass. Best to use a mechanical applicator so you don't ruin your arm.
 
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Apply in an aggressive manner, for quite awhile, to somewhat polish the glass. Best to use a mechanical applicator so you don't ruin your arm.
ok thank you, I'll give it a go.. I have just bought a polisher by handy coincidence, so I'll try it with that.
Fingers crossed!!!
 
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I bought a glas polisher kit a year ago and it came with a special hard pad to use with a polish machine. I used it on my daughters front screen and it made it a little better, only polished 20 minutes so probably a better result if I had taken more time. Google car glas polish kit and you'll find what you need.:-)
 

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Originally Posted by peterv8
I bought a glas polisher kit a year ago and it came with a special hard pad to use with a polish machine. I used it on my daughters front screen and it made it a little better, only polished 20 minutes so probably a better result if I had taken more time. Google car polish kit and you'll find what you need.:-)
Many years ago I ran an automotive glass manufacturing plant.

LAMINATED glass (2 sheets of glass with a PVB interlayer) used for windscreens can safely be polished quite aggressively although this may introduce distortion. TOUGHENED glass (a single sheet) as used in the side windows and rear screens must be treated much more carefully. The manufacturing process for this type is to heat the finished glass and rapidly cool it with compressed air. This creates a surface tension which makes it more resistant to impact from stones etc.

LAMINATED glass will crack on impact or lateral stress but TOUGHENED just fragments when it breaks. The medium used for polishing as a manufacturing finishing process is Jeweller's Rouge.

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Just replace the glass. you’ll be happier in the end.
 
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Originally Posted by peterv8
I bought a glas polisher kit a year ago and it came with a special hard pad to use with a polish machine. I used it on my daughters front screen and it made it a little better, only polished 20 minutes so probably a better result if I had taken more time. Google car polish kit and you'll find what you need.:-)
I did buy some glass scratch remover a few weeks ago, but didn't do too much with just my hand. Now I got a polisher anything is possible (including me breaking something)
 
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Originally Posted by GGG
Many years ago I ran an automotive glass manufacturing plant.

LAMINATED glass (2 sheets of glass with a PVB interlayer) used for windscreens can safely be polished quite aggressively although this may introduce distortion. TOUGHENED glass (a single sheet) as used in the side windows and rear screens must be treated much more carefully. The manufacturing process for this type is to heat the finished glass and rapidly cool it with compressed air. This creates a surface tension which makes it more resistant to impact from stones etc.

LAMINATED glass will crack on impact or lateral stress but TOUGHENED just fragments when it breaks. The medium used for polishing as a manufacturing finishing process is Jeweller's Rouge.

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Thanks for the info - I'm going to be very careful when I have a go at it
 
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Just replace the glass. you’ll be happier in the end.
With a new toy (polisher) I'm going to have to have at least one attempt. When I've broken something I'll definitely be replacing the glass
 
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Originally Posted by GGG
Many years ago I ran an automotive glass manufacturing plant.

LAMINATED glass (2 sheets of glass with a PVB interlayer) used for windscreens can safely be polished quite aggressively although this may introduce distortion. TOUGHENED glass (a single sheet) as used in the side windows and rear screens must be treated much more carefully. The manufacturing process for this type is to heat the finished glass and rapidly cool it with compressed air. This creates a surface tension which makes it more resistant to impact from stones etc.

LAMINATED glass will crack on impact or lateral stress but TOUGHENED just fragments when it breaks. The medium used for polishing as a manufacturing finishing process is Jeweller's Rouge.

Graham
Jewellers Rouge . had herd of it but couldn't remember the name
 
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With a new toy (polisher) I'm going to have to have at least one attempt. When I've broken something I'll definitely be replacing the glass
It's not going to be any better after 5 min, you'll have to polish the glass a lot longer . Glass is hard, much harder then paint so it'll take a lot longer to remove scratches! Take your time.....:-)
 
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This is good info. I noticed a slight scratch on the inside tint material of my '07. What's your recommended cleaning and conditioning regimen?
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