XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

Double Beep and Lost Key Fob

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-03-2023, 12:42 AM
silvertonesx24's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Chicago
Posts: 463
Received 139 Likes on 105 Posts
Default Double Beep and Lost Key Fob

I lost my only keyfob. It has to be somewhere near my garage.

When I press the lock button on the passive lock door, I get a double beep.

Does this mean that the computer detects my key inside the car?

It doesn't detect it when trying to start the car, and says insert key fob into slot. So I am guessing no.

But I'm just wondering, as it is odd behavior, and maybe it fell somewhere. Neither my XJ nor Range Rover do the same when testing.
 
  #2  
Old 09-03-2023, 02:37 AM
justinhill's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 330
Received 210 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

I thought a double-beep when attempting to lock the car meant that one of the apertures (doors, boot, bonnet) was ajar.

 
  #3  
Old 09-03-2023, 05:11 AM
silvertonesx24's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Chicago
Posts: 463
Received 139 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by justinhill
I thought a double-beep when attempting to lock the car meant that one of the apertures (doors, boot, bonnet) was ajar.
That's definitely the case, and also the case when attempting to lock with the button when the keys are in the car.

Can anyone test their XK, unlocked, with the keys nowhere near the car (to where it shouldn't lock)? Double beep?
 
  #4  
Old 09-03-2023, 05:21 AM
justinhill's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 330
Received 210 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Just checked - and that is correct. Attempting to lock the car with the fob away from the car produces two beeps and the car remains unlocked.
 
  #5  
Old 09-03-2023, 07:55 AM
silvertonesx24's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Chicago
Posts: 463
Received 139 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by justinhill
Just checked - and that is correct. Attempting to lock the car with the fob away from the car produces two beeps and the car remains unlocked.
Thanks, it was worth a shot
 
  #6  
Old 09-03-2023, 08:42 AM
justinhill's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 330
Received 210 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by silvertonesx24
Thanks, it was worth a shot
'course it could still be that the fob is in the car somewhere - but has a completely flat battery...
 
  #7  
Old 09-03-2023, 09:08 AM
silvertonesx24's Avatar
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Chicago
Posts: 463
Received 139 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by justinhill
'course it could still be that the fob is in the car somewhere - but has a completely flat battery...
True. I have a replacement aftermarket key on the way and hopefully I can program it with my SDD laptop. However that still doesn't solve the issue of the physical key, which I've used many times in a dead battery situation.
 
  #8  
Old 09-04-2023, 07:00 AM
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 9,269
Received 6,286 Likes on 3,450 Posts
Default

US members who "double lock" their X150 will get a "beep beep" from the sounder,. That double beep is an error message that means your car is not double locked. That's because double locking is not available on US market cars.

Double locking is not available on USA market vehicles because NHTSA deemed it to be unsafe. Double locking is popular in Europe because it makes cars more difficult to steal. However, because the doors cannot be opened from the inside when double-locked, a small child or other passenger can be trapped inside and die from extreme heat.

When you double-lock your car, the beep-beep is an error message to tell you that your car is not double-locked. Visual confirmation that your car is locked is that your side mirrors automatically folded in, unless you disabled that feature or your car is not equipped with that feature.

For more information:
See: NHTSA January 2009 Double Locking
 
  #9  
Old 09-04-2023, 07:18 AM
justinhill's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 330
Received 210 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stuart S
US members who "double lock" their X150 will get a "beep beep" from the sounder,. That double beep is an error message that means your car is not double locked. That's because double locking is not available on US market cars.

Double locking is not available on USA market vehicles because NHTSA deemed it to be unsafe. Double locking is popular in Europe because it makes cars more difficult to steal. However, because the doors cannot be opened from the inside when double-locked, a small child or other passenger can be trapped inside and die from extreme heat.

When you double-lock your car, the beep-beep is an error message to tell you that your car is not double-locked. Visual confirmation that your car is locked is that your side mirrors automatically folded in, unless you disabled that feature or your car is not equipped with that feature.

For more information:
See: NHTSA January 2009 Double Locking
Fascinating. I never knew that. All the same, I don't think you can double-lock the doors on a euro car from the door button anyway - which is what we were testing here.
 
  #10  
Old 09-05-2023, 07:11 PM
u102768's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,941
Received 1,490 Likes on 908 Posts
Default

I don't have that feature but I think pressing the button twice within 3 seconds will double lock it.

My '10 XKR is a Japanese import and they have low range fobs so if I stand too far away from the car when trying to lock it with the button on the door handle I get a beep so I suspect the beep is the car telling you it can't see a fob.


 
  #11  
Old 09-05-2023, 07:24 PM
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kaysville, Utah, US
Posts: 10,789
Received 5,363 Likes on 3,175 Posts
Default

Actually, a Double Beep means a few things... either an access point, hood or bonnet is open. Otherwise, it CAN be a key detected inside the vehicle. This happened to me several years ago when I thought my grandson lost my second key. I found it, battery dead, stuffed under the PAX seat. I had problems locking the car for about a week before it started working fine, which I surmise was due to the fob battery dying. I paid a crapload for a new dealer key when all I had to do is look better.
 
  #12  
Old 09-06-2023, 07:41 AM
jons's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: dfw, tx
Posts: 349
Received 197 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

many many other US cars arm their alarm system on the second click of the lock button, and they typically beep twice when doing it, and that's been colloquially called double-locking, which only serves to confuse the situation more.
 
  #13  
Old 09-06-2023, 09:28 AM
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kaysville, Utah, US
Posts: 10,789
Received 5,363 Likes on 3,175 Posts
Default

All the Fords/Lincolns I've had recently lock silently on the first press, then verify Locked on the second press. That aligns with the Jags I've owned.
 
  #14  
Old 09-06-2023, 12:45 PM
justinhill's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 330
Received 210 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Just to confess - in my earlier post I said I didn't think you could double-lock (i.e. deadlock) these using the door button. That was nonsense. I've just checked and you can indeed deadlock a UK car using the door button. Perhaps if I'm brave I will test whether you can lock or deadlock my car with the fob left inside one of these days.
 
  #15  
Old 09-06-2023, 01:35 PM
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kaysville, Utah, US
Posts: 10,789
Received 5,363 Likes on 3,175 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by justinhill
Just to confess - in my earlier post I said I didn't think you could double-lock (i.e. deadlock) these using the door button. That was nonsense. I've just checked and you can indeed deadlock a UK car using the door button. Perhaps if I'm brave I will test whether you can lock or deadlock my car with the fob left inside one of these days.
Leave a window open.
 
  #16  
Old 09-10-2023, 05:24 AM
justinhill's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Surrey
Posts: 330
Received 210 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Just to say: in a controlled experiment(!) I have confirmed that the car will NOT lock when there is a fob inside the car, and produces the double beep when you try to lock it from the door handle. Of course this would only be true provided the battery in that fob is not flat...
 
The following users liked this post:
guy (09-12-2023)
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
garysaunders85
XF and XFR ( X250 )
14
11-02-2021 07:51 PM
PWB
X-Type ( X400 )
2
02-22-2019 07:11 AM
Jschlenker
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
6
07-01-2018 02:50 PM
chazaroo
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
8
11-21-2014 01:51 PM
bakerboy
General Tech Help
1
07-27-2013 11:57 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Double Beep and Lost Key Fob



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:23 PM.