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Old 12-05-2020, 01:25 PM
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Anybody use this in the Jag's ?
I use it in my boat, lawnmower, and snowthrower, but at $2.28/gal, I'll put the usual 92 octane in my XK
 

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Premium around here @ most stations is ethanol free
 
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Originally Posted by jbmi
Anybody use this in the Jag's ?
I use it in my boat, lawnmower, and snowthrower, but at $2.28/gal, I'll put the usual 92 octane in my XK
Can you snd me 10 000 gallons @ $2.28/gal.
 
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In the UK all unleaded can have up to 10% ethanol, most have just 5%, no such restrictions in SUL.

But then we pay an average price of £6 per gallon, 5 USD taking into account your gallon is 17% smaller.

Thankfully I've never paid more than $4 (per US gallon) since buying my x150 2yrs ago as always use supermarket points...and fill jerry cans too so it goes further

This made for good read

https://www.conserve-energy-future.c...nd%20corrosion.

As did this:

https://aircooledbug.co.uk/usa-versu...%80%9398%20RON.

Admittedly not really meaningful to those on the other side of the pond
 

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Originally Posted by jbmi
Anybody use this in the Jag's ?
I use it in my boat, lawnmower, and snowthrower, but at $2.28/gal, I'll put the usual 92 octane in my XK
My regular 10% ethanol is $2.34 for the cheapest 85 octane.
 
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Old 12-05-2020, 05:52 PM
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Comparing gasoline prices in different states is a fool's errand unless you separately state the fuel taxes imposed by each jurisdiction to get an apples-to-apples comparison.



https://taxfoundation.org/state-gas-tax-rates-2020/
 
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
In the UK all unleaded can have up to 10% ethanol, most have jist 5%, no such restrictions in SUL.

But then we pay an avsrage price of £6 per gallon, 5 USD taking into account your gallon is 17% smaller.

Thankfully I've never paid more than $4 (per US gallon) since buying my x150 2yrs ago as always use supermarket points...and fill jerry cans too so it goes further

This made for good read

https://www.conserve-energy-future.c...nd%20corrosion.

As did this:

https://aircooledbug.co.uk/usa-versu...%80%9398%20RON.

Admittedly not really meaningful to those on the other side of the pond
These guys should not be driving premium cars if grumbling about gas prices compared to us in uk . Only 99ron goes in mine
 
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These guys should not be driving premium cars if grumbling about gas prices compared to us in uk ..................
So who's grumbling?
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
So who's grumbling?
Not me, though looking at my service record mine's only covered less than 3.5k miles since it's last service, mainly due to lockdown and also had 3 cars to choose from over the period. By comparison over 7.5k miles the previous year. Even though a key/essential worker and not quite as restricted as others in my line of work, it just doesn't pay to turn up in anything too 'flash'. So the XK's only been used on dry weekends or a dozen tankfuls in that period...every 3rd one is 99 RON UK or (IIRC) 95 PON stateside, standard here is 95 RON or 91 PON and no issues.

I had my indy look at my intake manifold/valves and whilst there was staining, no significant carbon build up to require a strip down, throttle body was also sparkly

Still need to install a catch can, but something for next year perhaps?
 
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Not me, though looking at my service record mine's only covered less than 3.5k miles since it's last service, mainly due to lockdown and also had 3 cars to choose from over the period. By comparison over 7.5k miles the previous year. Even though a key/essential worker and not quite as restricted as others in my line of work, it just doesn't pay to turn up in anything too 'flash'. So the XK's only been used on dry weekends or a dozen tankfuls in that period...every 3rd one is 99 RON UK or (IIRC) 95 PON stateside, standard here is 95 RON or 91 PON and no issues.

I had my indy look at my intake manifold/valves and whilst there was staining, no significant carbon build up to require a strip down, throttle body was also sparkly

Still need to install a catch can, but something for next year perhaps?
Hi Mark
I use my XKR very infrequently. If I'm on a long journey where I'll go through a tank I use standard unleaded (the only 2 long trips are to Le Mans for 24hr, and Brands Hatch for the British Superbike Finale). All other time is just resting time with the occasional short run, and for this the the car has Super Unleaded sitting in the tank because of its low or zero ethanol content.
For winter storage I have Super Unleaded plus STABIL ONE MARINE - this is all years of learning from the motorbikes which spend most of their time standing - my carbs inside are always gleaming as a result
 
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When I was 18 regular gas hit a dollar a gallon for the first time. Now 42 years later unleaded is $1.86 per gallon and 91 octane ethanol free was just over 2 dollars. It's good to live in America and be a gearhead.
 
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Hi Mark
I use my XKR very infrequently. If I'm on a long journey where I'll go through a tank I use standard unleaded (the only 2 long trips are to Le Mans for 24hr, and Brands Hatch for the British Superbike Finale). All other time is just resting time with the occasional short run, and for this the the car has Super Unleaded sitting in the tank because of its low or zero ethanol content.
For winter storage I have Super Unleaded plus STABIL ONE MARINE - this is all years of learning from the motorbikes which spend most of their time standing - my carbs inside are always gleaming as a result
You have carbs!!!???

Only unleaded has a guaranteed 10% or less ethanol, share what SUL you use as they don't have to stick with the 10% rule.

BP SUL to my knowledge is the only high octane without ethanol.

I've never overwintered my cars, as you'll know (as most peeps from the West Mids have visited and sadly a high percentage have stayed on the south west) it doesn't get cold really down here.
 
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
You have carbs!!!???

Only unleaded has a guaranteed 10% or less ethanol, share what SUL you use as they don't have to stick with the 10% rule.

BP SUL to my knowledge is the only high octane without ethanol.

I've never overwintered my cars, as you'll know (as most peeps from the West Mids have visited and sadly a high percentage have stayed on the south west) it doesn't get cold really down here.
I only have carbs on my bikes - in fact its one thing I really know my stuff on - carbs. You have to with a multiple carb jap bike with pilot jet holes the size of an atom - they are the world, everything hinges on them - if they're not right life is a very miserable place.

The last time I did my research the 3 places supplying ethanol free petrol were BP, ESSO and TEXACO (according to the Bexhill 100 Motoring Club). Then it all becomes a bit grey, because some people claim the refineries supply the supermarkets with the branded stuff anyway?!?!? Pass.

Even BP are a bit reluctant to declare anything openly, but there does seem to be sufficient stuff out there to suggest they are the safe bet, ESSO do make the public claim - except in Cornwall for some reason?!? Just googled it quickly and saw this exclusion listed (but could be wrong) "Devon or Cornwall, the Teesside area or Scotland".

I found Somerset winters quite mild compared to the West Midlands, up here the roads are too slippery and salty to make daily driving of anything nice worth it.
 

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Originally Posted by Stuart S
Comparing gasoline prices in different states is a fool's errand unless you separately state the fuel taxes imposed by each jurisdiction to get an apples-to-apples comparison.



https://taxfoundation.org/state-gas-tax-rates-2020/
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Originally Posted by jbmi
Anybody use this in the Jag's ?
I use it in my boat, lawnmower, and snowthrower, but at $2.28/gal, I'll put the usual 92 octane in my XK
Originally Posted by Cee Jay
My regular 10% ethanol is $2.34 for the cheapest 85 octane.
Originally Posted by Stuart S
Comparing gasoline prices in different states is a fool's errand unless you separately state the fuel taxes imposed by each jurisdiction to get an apples-to-apples comparison.



https://taxfoundation.org/state-gas-tax-rates-2020/
The tax in Michigan is ten cents higher than in Utah, yet Michigan 92 octane is cheaper than the Utah 85 octane.
Clearly State Tax is only a small part of price disparagement.
 
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I only have carbs on my bikes - in fact its one thing I really know my stuff on - carbs. You have to with a multiple carb jap bike with pilot jet holes the size of an atom - they are the world, everything hinges on them - if they're not right life is a very miserable place.

The last time I did my research the 3 places supplying ethanol free petrol were BP, ESSO and TEXACO (according to the Bexhill 100 Motoring Club). Then it all becomes a bit grey, because some people claim the refineries supply the supermarkets with the branded stuff anyway?!?!? Pass.

Even BP are a bit reluctant to declare anything openly, but there does seem to be sufficient stuff out there to suggest they are the safe bet, ESSO do make the public claim - except in Cornwall for some reason?!? Just googled it quickly and saw this exclusion listed (but could be wrong) "Devon or Cornwall, the Teesside area or Scotland".

I found Somerset winters quite mild compared to the West Midlands, up here the roads are too slippery and salty to make daily driving of anything nice worth it.
This made a good read for (UK) owners about 10%

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/1...-1m-older-cars

What caught my attention was the sentence: 'Petrol cars made since 2011 must be E10-compatible'

Does this mean that older X150's are gonna have problems??

Yep V mild here and rarely drops below zero, only seen decent snow twice in my 20yrs here, but have to drive up to Sheffield on Friday...gulp!
 
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
This made a good read for (UK) owners about 10%

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/1...-1m-older-cars

What caught my attention was the sentence: 'Petrol cars made since 2011 must be E10-compatible'

Does this mean that older X150's are gonna have problems??

Yep V mild here and rarely drops below zero, only seen decent snow twice in my 20yrs here, but have to drive up to Sheffield on Friday...gulp!
As I recall it is just some EU regulation for the direction of build for modern cars.
The only thing ethanol threatens is bikes with plastic tanks, rubber if left to sit still too long and pilot jets if left sitting too long.
It attracts moisture, more difficult if the tank is full.
I have a dirt bike I rarely ever use, I just drain it completely of fuel...cos it's so easy to do.

My other bikes stand long periods of time, so for 6 mths of the year they have stabilizer...it stops it going off and attracting moisture

i loved Somerset, lived in Cheddar and then Wells. Unfortunately I missed my life in the Midlands too much and was hindering my career being so far away
 
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Weirdly live in Burnham and work in Cheddar?

Why did you miss the Midlands, most that move down here don't seem to?

Just filled inc 30l in jerry cans at...wait for it 72ppl, so in American terms 3.47usd a gallon (£30 of nectar points applied)
 
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Weirdly live in Burnham and work in Cheddar?

Why did you miss the Midlands, most that move down here don't seem to?

Just filled inc 30l in jerry cans at...wait for it 72ppl, so in American terms 3.47usd a gallon (£30 of nectar points applied)
The Midlands became my home from University to first professional job - it was very cosmopolitan, every one was from somewhere else so making a social life was easy. Cheddar and Well was very lonely by comparison, it was like being back in the Isle of Man, you are the outsider unless your grandparents were born there. Plus the location was far from all my friends in the Midlands. My friends used to visit and tell me how lucky I was, trouble is while I knew why they were saying it I just wasn't feeling that luck.
The West Midlands is one of those places - you always think you could be somewhere better but after a trip away you're always glad to come "home", no matter where you have been
 
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
What caught my attention was the sentence: 'Petrol cars made since 2011 must be E10-compatible'

Does this mean that older X150's are gonna have problems??
Nah, no worries! Apparently, Jaguars were E10 compatible since 1992.
 


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