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Old 05-19-2020, 12:49 PM
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But if a weird one, since I've had the engine rebuilt and body panels off the interior screen now says the external temperature is -40°c. Not sure what is causing this, any help would be much appreciated
 

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Maybe the ambient sensor in the dash behind the slotted area is disconnected?
 
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Old 05-19-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pauledddy
..... a weird one, since I've had the engine rebuilt and body panels off .....
Has the front bumper been removed/replaced? If so, check the Ambient Air Temperature Sensor on the bracket behind it.

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Old 05-19-2020, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GGG
Has the front bumper been removed/replaced? If so, check the Ambient Air Temperature Sensor on the bracket behind it.

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It has been removed, i couldn't find the sensor anywhere? I looked online and saw there's one under the nearside mirror, could you tell me where the bracket is please?
 
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:36 PM
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AW! Man, I totally missed the "external temperature". Dang, forget I said anything. I was totally thinking for the Climate Control.
 
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Old 05-19-2020, 02:57 PM
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AW! Man, I totally missed the "external temperature". Dang, forget I said anything. I was totally thinking for the Climate Control.
Haha no worries man, I thought you got confused with that part, but I also thought maybe Jags did some weird trickery!
 
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Old 05-19-2020, 05:38 PM
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..... thought maybe Jags did some weird trickery!
They certainly do that.

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Originally Posted by pauledddy
It has been removed, i couldn't find the sensor anywhere? I looked online and saw there's one under the nearside mirror, could you tell me where the bracket is please?
I haven't had to get to this myself (yet!) but the JEPC diagram shows it in the centre:




Bracket is item 2 and sensor is item 6. Knowing what they look like could help .......

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There have been other entries and threads on this subject several years ago. Suggest you utilize the search box at the upper right corner of this screen.
 
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The OP's car is a 5 litre so, as he says, it is in the left hand wing mirror but the temperature supposedly defaults to 20 deg C if it is disconnected.

 
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Old 05-20-2020, 02:35 AM
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There have been other entries and threads on this subject several years ago. Suggest you utilize the search box at the upper right corner of this screen.
I tried searching, but didn'tcome up with anything apart from an XF thread and his issue is still persistent..
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The OP's car is a 5 litre so, as he says, it is in the left hand wing mirror but the temperature supposedly defaults to 20 deg C if it is disconnected.

That's what I saw, but how is it -40..?
 
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Old 05-22-2020, 05:02 AM
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Replaced the sensor and it's still showing -40°

Anyone know where to go from here
 
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Originally Posted by pauledddy
Replaced the sensor and it's still showing -40°

Anyone know where to go from here
I don't know what year your car is and I'm not sure if this is your issue, but I had this problem.

There is a Technical Service Bulletin for a software upgrade (copy attached, see item #2) that addresses a temperature problem. In my car, when the outside temp dropped below 59 degrees F, the temp would show as 0 degrees F. After the software upgrade, the problem was fixed.

Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by khsjsilver
I don't know what year your car is and I'm not sure if this is your issue, but I had this problem.

There is a Technical Service Bulletin for a software upgrade (copy attached, see item #2) that addresses a temperature problem. In my car, when the outside temp dropped below 59 degrees F, the temp would show as 0 degrees F. After the software upgrade, the problem was fixed.

Hope this helps.

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Hi, no this is something else entirely, it's not changing temperature at all, staying at -40 and the AC doesn't work because of this
 
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Old 05-22-2020, 08:44 AM
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I've tested the cables all the way back to the ECU and there is a good connection there.. not sure what is going on!
 
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Battery reset?
 
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by peterv8
Battery reset?
Tried that first!
 
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It was the first time I started the car in -40 that I decided a block heater was necessary.

Back to the issue, sounds like the control module... SDD?
But I am surprised there are no codes
 

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Old 05-26-2020, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by guy
It was the first time I started the car in -40 that I decided a block heater was necessary.

Back to the issue, sounds like the control module... SDD?
But I am surprised there are no codes
I don't have SDD unfortunately
Where's the control module for this?
It brought up a P0073 code
 
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Old 05-26-2020, 08:45 AM
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If you've done these tests as you mention Paul, you've done all you can do without SDD. And with SDD it appears you can only check the datalogger Temp sense voltage:
There's no separate module for the sensor. It feeds directly into the ECU


 

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