First Year Models
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Greetings!
As a poster from the X100 side of the forum, I have an appreciation for the insights to be found from each model group. Having recently sold my 2000 XKR, I am now on the hunt for its replacement. Looking around, it seems like there are quite a few 2007s around, and much fewer of the next few years, and then another jump in numbers for 2010 5.0 cars.
Has this forum found that there are frequently more problems In that first model changeover year with the X150? My last Jag is not a good example for me to judge by, since it was a project car with a bad engine. The 2007s are well within my budget, but I would prefer my next one not to be another time consuming project.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
TC
As a poster from the X100 side of the forum, I have an appreciation for the insights to be found from each model group. Having recently sold my 2000 XKR, I am now on the hunt for its replacement. Looking around, it seems like there are quite a few 2007s around, and much fewer of the next few years, and then another jump in numbers for 2010 5.0 cars.
Has this forum found that there are frequently more problems In that first model changeover year with the X150? My last Jag is not a good example for me to judge by, since it was a project car with a bad engine. The 2007s are well within my budget, but I would prefer my next one not to be another time consuming project.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
TC
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As for the 4.2L models, each succeeding year brings functional as well as cosmetic improvements. For example, the 2007 power radio antenna was replaced in 2008 with the antenna hidden inside the rear spoiler. New for 2009 was iPod connectivity as standard equipment that was integrated with the touchscreen and steering wheel controls.
Every used car is a gamble, and the odds get worse as the cars get older and the mileage increases.
A Jaguar X150 really isn't very different from other used cars of the same age and mileage. The biggest factor, IMHO, is the care and maintenance by previous owners. Because anything can happen, it's a good idea to pay a Jaguar dealer to do a Pre Purchase Inspection to Certified Pre-Owned standards so you'll know what needs to be fixed and the cost.
Every used car is a gamble, and the odds get worse as the cars get older and the mileage increases.
A Jaguar X150 really isn't very different from other used cars of the same age and mileage. The biggest factor, IMHO, is the care and maintenance by previous owners. Because anything can happen, it's a good idea to pay a Jaguar dealer to do a Pre Purchase Inspection to Certified Pre-Owned standards so you'll know what needs to be fixed and the cost.
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No to your question. The 07 is a terrific car. I don't know why you're seeing fewer of the 08 an 09 for sale than the 07. There are only a few cosmetic differences between those model years. The 2010 onward had a facelift and the 5.0 liter DI engine.
I have an 07. I love it. Would feel the same about the 08 and 09. I have the N/A, not the SC. SC was nice and I miss it but the N/A is a fine car. Depends on how heavy your foot is.
I went with the 07 based on $. I'm not a fan of the DI engine, the facelift is OK but not anything to write home about (FOR ME). I don't like the knob gear selector either.
From what I read on the forum, I think the 07-09 are more reliable. I don't have data to back that up, just my opinion as is my entire response.
Check out the DIY sticky section to get a feel for the issues.
Give this a read too:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-guide-224822/
I have an 07. I love it. Would feel the same about the 08 and 09. I have the N/A, not the SC. SC was nice and I miss it but the N/A is a fine car. Depends on how heavy your foot is.
I went with the 07 based on $. I'm not a fan of the DI engine, the facelift is OK but not anything to write home about (FOR ME). I don't like the knob gear selector either.
From what I read on the forum, I think the 07-09 are more reliable. I don't have data to back that up, just my opinion as is my entire response.
Check out the DIY sticky section to get a feel for the issues.
Give this a read too:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-guide-224822/
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I'm with Sean W on this.
I have both an 07XK and a 2010XKR, and in truth, I enjoy my 07XK more than the XKR.
The 4.2L is well sorted, and reliable as heck. Its base 300hp is lackluster to say the least, but for the GT world it does fine.
The 5.0l is building a good reputation once you get past 2012, although Jag seems to have repeated problems with water pumps.
One downside to the 5.0l XKR is the power itself. As an aggressive driver, I'm terrified to disable DSC for any length of time, yet when I push it otherwise, the DSC nannies always jump in, making the car feel twitchy on winding roads. Your stuck either driving the beast in a mundane fashion, or opening her up to discover that all she really wants is to kill you if you make a mistake!
I have both an 07XK and a 2010XKR, and in truth, I enjoy my 07XK more than the XKR.
The 4.2L is well sorted, and reliable as heck. Its base 300hp is lackluster to say the least, but for the GT world it does fine.
The 5.0l is building a good reputation once you get past 2012, although Jag seems to have repeated problems with water pumps.
One downside to the 5.0l XKR is the power itself. As an aggressive driver, I'm terrified to disable DSC for any length of time, yet when I push it otherwise, the DSC nannies always jump in, making the car feel twitchy on winding roads. Your stuck either driving the beast in a mundane fashion, or opening her up to discover that all she really wants is to kill you if you make a mistake!
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Cee Jay (02-20-2020)
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The 4.2 litre engine is a gem and has plenty of power. It can get you into trouble in a hurry. The XKR takes precedence in bragging rights perhaps but that is about all. It is arguably less pretty.
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The X150 benefited from the powertrain development on the last of the X100 4.2 and the aluminium body techniques developed for the X351. Unusually, the 4.2 was a good package at introduction unlike the 5.0 litre that succeeded it.
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Thanks to all for the responses so far.
I agree that the XKR was fun for the surge of power it had, but once you fly past the posted limit, enthusiasm is replaced by highway patrol paranoia for me. Only want to meet the troopers at the coffee shop, not on the road. We want something we can pack a bag or two and head out for an enjoyable tour in a fine car. The XK seems to fit the bill with 4.2 giving 300hp.
With my x100, I was aware of all the updates needed for the engine, like tensioners, timing chains, etc., and took care of that during the engine rebuild I did. Were these still issues by the time the x150 4.2 came along? I am total DIY for just about anything.
Thanks again for the responses.
TC
I agree that the XKR was fun for the surge of power it had, but once you fly past the posted limit, enthusiasm is replaced by highway patrol paranoia for me. Only want to meet the troopers at the coffee shop, not on the road. We want something we can pack a bag or two and head out for an enjoyable tour in a fine car. The XK seems to fit the bill with 4.2 giving 300hp.
With my x100, I was aware of all the updates needed for the engine, like tensioners, timing chains, etc., and took care of that during the engine rebuild I did. Were these still issues by the time the x150 4.2 came along? I am total DIY for just about anything.
Thanks again for the responses.
TC
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I don't think there is any mechanical or construction issues on the '07 vs the other 4.2 model XK's. There are some design features that may sway you for or against like the mast antenna the Taurus wing grill. You can remove a fuse for the antenna and the grill can be replaced with an OEM accessory grill in chrome or black.
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The 2009 XKR Portfolio is the epitome of the 4.2L X150 with unique features and colors. For details, see:
https://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/18/...xkr-portfolio/
How rare is it?
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ertible-45154/
https://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/18/...xkr-portfolio/
How rare is it?
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ertible-45154/
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Since no one answered the fundamental question in the title.
Did Jaguar have any problems with First year models?
Incredibly, none whatsoever.
Another way to ask the question- did they have any revisions? not really.
Because; they saved all the revisions for the next model but gave it the same number.
For instance, there were some small niggles about the lack of leather on the interior, it wasnt addressed till the complete makeover (model change almost).
But most pertinently; there was no difference whatsoever, reliability or quality or performance between year-1, year-2, year-3; in either of the 2 models!
Did Jaguar have any problems with First year models?
Incredibly, none whatsoever.
Another way to ask the question- did they have any revisions? not really.
Because; they saved all the revisions for the next model but gave it the same number.
For instance, there were some small niggles about the lack of leather on the interior, it wasnt addressed till the complete makeover (model change almost).
But most pertinently; there was no difference whatsoever, reliability or quality or performance between year-1, year-2, year-3; in either of the 2 models!
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The most common problems involving the 2007 model year (as well as 2008 and 2009) are the leather dash bubbling. A/C drain duckbill clogging, and the convertible top rear glass separating from the canvas. There are occasional reports of catalytic converter failures but were usually covered under warranty. Suspension bushings deteriorate over time and may need to be replaced. Mechanically speaking, pretty much bulletproof provided the maintenance schedule was followed.
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Mine ain't broke, so not fixing it.
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