Here's your 2012 XKR-S for $80,000
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I don't know guys, take a very close look at the tires and brakes... That looks like a little more than 6.3k easy executive miles to me. Look how the wear on the tires has rolled over to the sidewall just a little, and the brakes are filthy. If the car was cleaned you think someone would have cleaned the brakes off a little better than what you see.
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What proof do you ever have?
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Lothar52 (01-07-2014)
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Here's the CARFAX on the car.
CARFAX Vehicle History Report for this 2012 JAGUAR XKR S
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None, which is why I think it would be a little silly to take the salesman at his word, especially when he has everything to gain from saying such things!
It's a pretty color, but I agree with some of the others--the tires look like they have been put through the ringer a time or two at least. Any idea how to tell if these are the original tires? If it were to have been used at performance events, I'd be very surprised if the tires lasted 6000 miles!
It's a pretty color, but I agree with some of the others--the tires look like they have been put through the ringer a time or two at least. Any idea how to tell if these are the original tires? If it were to have been used at performance events, I'd be very surprised if the tires lasted 6000 miles!
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I posted about a week ago, or so, the 2012 XKR-S can be bought for $80,000 in excellent condition with low mileage. These cars are such a great deal--unbelievable. It was in the thread about what will your next car be, or something like that. If I never bought my 2013 XKR in July I would jump on cars like this. The Jaguar XK is a phenomenal machine. Used Jaguars are the best used car buys period. What a great deal. I've seen three 2012 XKR-Ss offered at around $80,000, or $79,900. A blue, red, and green convertible all the same price at around $80,000. This could be the same dealer and sold the other 2. I called about the green convertible about a month ago and just drooled, it sold within a week.
Of all the cars I own and have owned my current 2013 XKR is my favorite.
Of all the cars I own and have owned my current 2013 XKR is my favorite.
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I posted about a week ago, or so, the 2012 XKR-S can be bought for $80,000 in excellent condition with low mileage. These cars are such a great deal--unbelievable. It was in the thread about what will your next car be, or something like that. If I never bought my 2013 XKR in July I would jump on cars like this. The Jaguar XK is a phenomenal machine. Used Jaguars are the best used car buys period. What a great deal. I've seen three 2012 XKR-Ss offered at around $80,000, or $79,900. A blue, red, and green convertible all the same price at around $80,000. This could be the same dealer and sold the other 2. I called about the green convertible about a month ago and just drooled, it sold within a week.
Of all the cars I own and have owned my current 2013 XKR is my favorite.
Of all the cars I own and have owned my current 2013 XKR is my favorite.
It will be interesting to see what it sells for and how long it takes to move the car out. It's a buyers market during winter months, especially in Virginia.
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None, which is why I think it would be a little silly to take the salesman at his word, especially when he has everything to gain from saying such things!
It's a pretty color, but I agree with some of the others--the tires look like they have been put through the ringer a time or two at least. Any idea how to tell if these are the original tires? If it were to have been used at performance events, I'd be very surprised if the tires lasted 6000 miles!
It's a pretty color, but I agree with some of the others--the tires look like they have been put through the ringer a time or two at least. Any idea how to tell if these are the original tires? If it were to have been used at performance events, I'd be very surprised if the tires lasted 6000 miles!
Albert
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The above post is why I started the thread after finding this car. I wouldn't speculate about tire wear, CPO's, salesmen etc. This dealer has a good reputation, and I am sure they will make good. Besides the car is under a full factory orginal Jaguar warranty and there is no additional costs for warranties to any purchaser.
It will be interesting to see what it sells for and how long it takes to move the car out. It's a buyers market during winter months, especially in Virginia.
It will be interesting to see what it sells for and how long it takes to move the car out. It's a buyers market during winter months, especially in Virginia.
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Interesting indeed. The market will ultimately determine the price.
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None, which is why I think it would be a little silly to take the salesman at his word, especially when he has everything to gain from saying such things!
It's a pretty color, but I agree with some of the others--the tires look like they have been put through the ringer a time or two at least. Any idea how to tell if these are the original tires? If it were to have been used at performance events, I'd be very surprised if the tires lasted 6000 miles!
It's a pretty color, but I agree with some of the others--the tires look like they have been put through the ringer a time or two at least. Any idea how to tell if these are the original tires? If it were to have been used at performance events, I'd be very surprised if the tires lasted 6000 miles!
Although I believe there are deals out there in this range it expect it from a private seller not a car thats somehow traveled the country in 2 years of life and 6k miles.
I have a feeling it used to look like this:
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You guys crack me up with the paranoia about the first 6k miles. If:
1) The car is build as well as be all know it is
2) It was over-engineered and designed to be driven ***** out on a track (those of us that have been to Jag Academy know first hand)
3) It has full warranty AND more with CPO
4) Has no paint work
5) When you buy it you will put your foot down in it too - and also brake hard occasionally - otherwise why buy an XKR
WHO CARES HOW THE 6 MILES WERE DRIVEN! LOL
1) The car is build as well as be all know it is
2) It was over-engineered and designed to be driven ***** out on a track (those of us that have been to Jag Academy know first hand)
3) It has full warranty AND more with CPO
4) Has no paint work
5) When you buy it you will put your foot down in it too - and also brake hard occasionally - otherwise why buy an XKR
WHO CARES HOW THE 6 MILES WERE DRIVEN! LOL
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You guys crack me up with the paranoia about the first 6k miles. If:
1) The car is build as well as be all know it is
2) It was over-engineered and designed to be driven ***** out on a track (those of us that have been to Jag Academy know first hand)
3) It has full warranty AND more with CPO
4) Has no paint work
5) When you buy it you will put your foot down in it too - and also brake hard occasionally - otherwise why buy an XKR
WHO CARES HOW THE 6 MILES WERE DRIVEN! LOL
1) The car is build as well as be all know it is
2) It was over-engineered and designed to be driven ***** out on a track (those of us that have been to Jag Academy know first hand)
3) It has full warranty AND more with CPO
4) Has no paint work
5) When you buy it you will put your foot down in it too - and also brake hard occasionally - otherwise why buy an XKR
WHO CARES HOW THE 6 MILES WERE DRIVEN! LOL
Engines and mechanical parts have certain life times which much depends on the usage patterns. For example; when I raced cars, using 8000 RPM for redline for my race engine ensured way more than a season's worth (about 15 race weekends) of engine life. Going to 9000 RPM pretty much used up the engines in a dozen weekends. This, BTW was my general redline, unless pushed REALLY hard by the competition. So, going to 10,000 RPM and my engine would have to be rebuilt roughly every 3 races.
Also, going to 10,000 during the heavily fought qualification session for the West Coast Championship my engine blew sky high just as I turned-in the fastest lap, giving me the pole position, sending shrapnel through the hood and chassis and setting the car on fire. But, we fixed it overnight, new engine, new everything and won the Championship the next day.
So, yes, usage patterns do matter.
Albert
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I know the car can handle it after the jag academy, and that where that picture came from but for that kind of money (80k still is a lot when your looking for a race car
) I want to know the cars history. I also want to know it wasn't pounded to death and have no idea of the exact usage and maintenance. I drive my car harder then most but its babied and maintained very well. Those cars sure weren't, and dealer auction cars scare me unless its Barrett Jackson, RM etc...
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I personally would care.
Engines and mechanical parts have certain life times which much depends on the usage patterns. For example; when I raced cars, using 8000 RPM for redline for my race engine ensured way more than a season's worth (about 15 race weekends) of engine life. Going to 9000 RPM pretty much used up the engines in a dozen weekends. This, BTW was my general redline, unless pushed REALLY hard by the competition. So, going to 10,000 RPM and my engine would have to be rebuilt roughly every 3 races.
Also, going to 10,000 during the heavily fought qualification session for the West Coast Championship my engine blew sky high just as I turned-in the fastest lap, giving me the pole position, sending shrapnel through the hood and chassis and setting the car on fire. But, we fixed it overnight, new engine, new everything and won the Championship the next day.
So, yes, usage patterns do matter.
Albert
Engines and mechanical parts have certain life times which much depends on the usage patterns. For example; when I raced cars, using 8000 RPM for redline for my race engine ensured way more than a season's worth (about 15 race weekends) of engine life. Going to 9000 RPM pretty much used up the engines in a dozen weekends. This, BTW was my general redline, unless pushed REALLY hard by the competition. So, going to 10,000 RPM and my engine would have to be rebuilt roughly every 3 races.
Also, going to 10,000 during the heavily fought qualification session for the West Coast Championship my engine blew sky high just as I turned-in the fastest lap, giving me the pole position, sending shrapnel through the hood and chassis and setting the car on fire. But, we fixed it overnight, new engine, new everything and won the Championship the next day.
So, yes, usage patterns do matter.
Albert
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I have this exact same car bought new...worth every penny from a "car" standpoint (dont get me wrong)...cant imagine it minus 50k off the purchase price...look at the saving PLUS TAX SAVINGS....wow.... indeed however this is why I will never purchase another car like this new ever again!!!! :O I lost my a$$ once to have my VERY OWN ONE OF A KIND BRAND NEW 6 FIGURE CAR...never again!!
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I have this exact same car bought new...worth every penny from a "car" standpoint (dont get me wrong)...cant imagine it minus 50k off the purchase price...look at the saving PLUS TAX SAVINGS....wow.... indeed however this is why I will never purchase another car like this new ever again!!!! :O I lost my a$$ once to have my VERY OWN ONE OF A KIND BRAND NEW 6 FIGURE CAR...never again!!
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Interestingly, I just looked up the used prices on the Corvette zr1. Both the Vette and the XKR-S were sticker priced roughly the same. Yet, the good old dime-a-dozen looks (don't mean to deride the zr1 performance at all) of the Vette seem to be attracting much higher resale prices.
I also looked up the Blue Book value for the XKR-S under this very listing and it shows nearly 110,000 for a car in excellent condition, sold by a dealer.
Not sure I understand this steep decline in XKR-S used values.
Albert
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Lothar52 (01-07-2014)
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There has been so much speculation on this XKR-S, it's unbelievable.
Just because a car was sold at auction has no bearing on the quality.
A quick call to Gaudin in Las Vegas, who is also one very reputable Jaguar dealer in the West and speaking to the tech rep providing the VIN, they can tell any buyer what the condition of the car was. They have the service records.
This is what I did when I bought my 2009 XKR PE Vert from Florida. I simply looked at the CarFax then called Allan at West Palm Beach Jaguar and he provided his opinion on the car.
I think it is premature to say this XKR-S was beaten to death on any race track, without knowing the facts.
This is America, innocent until proven guilty. If this was a rag top, I would put my 2009 XKR PE with only 14,800 miles up for sale and BUY this one immediately after completing my due diligence which any body buying an $80,000 - $83,000 car should do.
If your an east coast buyer, it is mostly likely reasonable to go to or fly to Virginia to inspect the car personally.
It will be interesting to see what happens, how long it will take to sell, and at what price. I am following this one just for my own curiosity.
Just because a car was sold at auction has no bearing on the quality.
A quick call to Gaudin in Las Vegas, who is also one very reputable Jaguar dealer in the West and speaking to the tech rep providing the VIN, they can tell any buyer what the condition of the car was. They have the service records.
This is what I did when I bought my 2009 XKR PE Vert from Florida. I simply looked at the CarFax then called Allan at West Palm Beach Jaguar and he provided his opinion on the car.
I think it is premature to say this XKR-S was beaten to death on any race track, without knowing the facts.
This is America, innocent until proven guilty. If this was a rag top, I would put my 2009 XKR PE with only 14,800 miles up for sale and BUY this one immediately after completing my due diligence which any body buying an $80,000 - $83,000 car should do.
If your an east coast buyer, it is mostly likely reasonable to go to or fly to Virginia to inspect the car personally.
It will be interesting to see what happens, how long it will take to sell, and at what price. I am following this one just for my own curiosity.
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I thin it's fair to say that, when you buy a secondhand car, you are taking a calculated risk on its history. No-one will be honest about whether a car has been thrashed; at least a dealer demonstrator will usually (though not always) be well-maintained. And I think that maintenance is a greater concern than how it's been driven. A hard driven but well-maintained car will probably be healthier than one that's only been used for local trips but been neglected.
It's quite hard to thrash an XKR - the control systems are designed to protect the car from stupidity, and you have to go out of your way to bypass them. So, I've driven mine at 184 mph and have taken it around the Nordschleife 8 times, but I don't think the car has suffered significantly. It never went over the redline, it didn't overheat, the brakes didn't get cooked. It's designed and built to do this stuff, after all.
It's quite hard to thrash an XKR - the control systems are designed to protect the car from stupidity, and you have to go out of your way to bypass them. So, I've driven mine at 184 mph and have taken it around the Nordschleife 8 times, but I don't think the car has suffered significantly. It never went over the redline, it didn't overheat, the brakes didn't get cooked. It's designed and built to do this stuff, after all.
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