How long have you had your AGM battery?
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Thanks for the clairification. I looked in my 2007 manual and it wasn't there and I couldn't convince myself to download a 2010 manual to find out what the BMS was.
Seems it's sorta like on an airplane. If the main gen goes out then the stby gen comes online and those things that were on the main buss are now not fed anymore. Makes one wonder just what items and the order they are shut down when the BMS decides there's too much load on the system. Just musing .Not looking for an answer.
Seems it's sorta like on an airplane. If the main gen goes out then the stby gen comes online and those things that were on the main buss are now not fed anymore. Makes one wonder just what items and the order they are shut down when the BMS decides there's too much load on the system. Just musing .Not looking for an answer.
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It's the ECM that does the shutting down. My guess (and only a guess): non-essentials like screen heaters, seat heating/cooling, maybe moving on to the climate control if things get worse - anything that is not essential to keeping the car running. In reality, with a 120 amp alternator, it's really only at cranking time that the battery is critical, so maybe that's the time when the ECM temporarily shuts things off. I guess it may also be the source of the "low battery, start engine" warning that you get if you sit with the car in 'convenience' mode for too long - I imagine a few things start to get shut down once that appears.
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Excluding the antiquated nav screen there are other issues that should be addressed. The '13 xkr ragtop has a myriad of exposed wires that are begging to be dead shorted. Under the radiator shield there are multiple pin connectors with exposed wires going to them, among each shock there are 2 wires that are exposed that have no plastic snake covering, open wires to pin connectors for the ABS, if you take all the panels out of the trunk there are wires on both sides running along the body that are literally wire looms that have no covering. I went with my dad to buy this car for him. It took me 2 hours to go thru the electrical systems, including meters to ensure there wernt any dead shorts or frayed wires. When I pulled the center of the back seat out to have a look at the fuse box and removed the trunk pannels the dealer almost died when he saw the exposed wires and realized this was factory. (Wasnt a jag dealer) I went with cut heat dried shrink wrap wherever I can get to. I have been covering wires now for a couple of months and I should be done by June. I am not criticizing the car, but some of these gremlins and future problems are peventable if the factory would make more of an effort to provide better protective upgrades for the electrical system
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It is my car. I bought it from my dad. It is the "13 xkr ragtop. Same car that I changed the pulley on. I bought it from him for $65,000. less than 2000 miles on it. ( I had to change the screen name. Too much complaining fron the "good ole boys club"
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Which model did you choose, and did it fit OK? I looked at the Odyssey site for their recommendation, and they said the PC1350, but noted "Vehicle battery restraint(s) may require modification." Did you have to make any mods to get yours to fit?
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...I went with cut heat dried shrink wrap wherever I can get to. I have been covering wires now for a couple of months and I should be done by June. I am not criticizing the car, but some of these gremlins and future problems are peventable if the factory would make more of an effort to provide better protective upgrades for the electrical system
It's not surprising that manufacturers don't go to that level of protection, though - the time taken to shrink-wrap every connector would reduce the rate at which looms could be produced. Or you'd need more staff, which increases cost. Not saying it's the right approach, but that's the reality.
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Excluding the antiquated nav screen there are other issues that should be addressed. The '13 xkr ragtop has a myriad of exposed wires that are begging to be dead shorted. Under the radiator shield there are multiple pin connectors with exposed wires going to them, among each shock there are 2 wires that are exposed that have no plastic snake covering, open wires to pin connectors for the ABS, if you take all the panels out of the trunk there are wires on both sides running along the body that are literally wire looms that have no covering. I went with my dad to buy this car for him. It took me 2 hours to go thru the electrical systems, including meters to ensure there wernt any dead shorts or frayed wires. When I pulled the center of the back seat out to have a look at the fuse box and removed the trunk pannels the dealer almost died when he saw the exposed wires and realized this was factory. (Wasnt a jag dealer) I went with cut heat dried shrink wrap wherever I can get to. I have been covering wires now for a couple of months and I should be done by June. I am not criticizing the car, but some of these gremlins and future problems are peventable if the factory would make more of an effort to provide better protective upgrades for the electrical system
Kudos to you SoCal for doing what Jaguar should have done in the manufacturing process. Jaguar needs to overcome their infamous reputation by going beyond industry best practice. Can you give us a simple post of how you've gone about this and what materials and tools you used?
Your dad gave you a great deal on his car. Why did he sell it to you and what did he replace it with? I bought my 2013 XKR in West Palm Beach, Florida, from a Bentley dealer. It had only 300 miles on it. the first owner never got in the car. He has so much money he buys 2-3 cars a month. He traded the XKR in on a new Bentley and when I bought his traded XKR his Bentley he bought on the trade was also on the lot for sale. Post some pictures of your car and the wires you protected. I'm impressed by how your protecting and making your car better.
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Kudos to you SoCal for doing what Jaguar should have done in the manufacturing process. Jaguar needs to overcome their infamous reputation by going beyond industry best practice. Can you give us a simple post of how you've gone about this and what materials and tools you used?
Your dad gave you a great deal on his car. Why did he sell it to you and what did he replace it with? I bought my 2013 XKR in West Palm Beach, Florida, from a Bentley dealer. It had only 300 miles on it. the first owner never got in the car. He has so much money he buys 2-3 cars a month. He traded the XKR in on a new Bentley and when I bought his traded XKR his Bentley he bought on the trade was also on the lot for sale. Post some pictures of your car and the wires you protected. I'm impressed by how your protecting and making your car better.
Your dad gave you a great deal on his car. Why did he sell it to you and what did he replace it with? I bought my 2013 XKR in West Palm Beach, Florida, from a Bentley dealer. It had only 300 miles on it. the first owner never got in the car. He has so much money he buys 2-3 cars a month. He traded the XKR in on a new Bentley and when I bought his traded XKR his Bentley he bought on the trade was also on the lot for sale. Post some pictures of your car and the wires you protected. I'm impressed by how your protecting and making your car better.
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I installed an Odyssey PC1700T in mine. It is a little bit smaller than the stock battery - both in length and width - but not by much. I put a piece of 1" wide .250" thick 12" long aluminum bar stock in between the clamp and the battery and that was enough to hold it in place.
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I enjoy reading your posts. U r probably the smartest person on this forum. U bought your car in south Florida, like my dad did. There seems to be so much money in South Beach and the cars are in pristine condition. Cars in Coronado and Southern cal are of a different breed. Ferrari, Lambos, Bugattis are rpevalent but often get "bonsaied" along the PCH or raced on I-5. To see it seems that xkr's whether rags or coupes are throw away cars in South Beach. And by that I mean, people buy them and get rid of them in a month or 2, but they dont drive them or tear them up. I am going to post pics of the heat shrink wrap that I used and how I applied it down to the connectors and used a heat gun to shrink it more so than with a hair drier. Also I am going to post a pic with a factory defect on the application of the aluminum x- brackets above the radiator shield that arent visible without taking off the shield. The x-brcket is so flimsy that it drops down and catches the lip of the shield making its removal almost impossible unless a lot of critical thought is put into the removal and sequential pics made to determine the reason for th dropping down of the x-bracket. Once again I am not criticizing the brand, just pointing out thing s that need to be included on a world class car. For me a good analogy is that I would never go out wearing Versace with something like Michael Kors heels
I live a few minutes away from the dealers you are speaking of and ended up buying from a Pa dealer to get the best price on a super low mileage car (4,800 miles on 2010 XK). I found the dealers here asking premium prices for their cars just because they could. There is a captive audience here with deep pockets. SoCalBabe.........I too would be greatly appreciative of any pics you might be able to share showing the shrink wrap application. Here in South Florida we get torrential downpours which is a primary concern of mine with the undercarriage exposed connectors and wires. Thanks so much.
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Any idea what the battery voltage is supposed to read? I hadn't driven the car in several days, and the voltage (according to the ECU) was 11.5V with the engine off. When the engine was running, it was at 14.0-14.5V, depending on whether I was idling or not. Then after a 20 minute drive, with the engine off, it settled back to approximately 12.0V.
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Any idea what the battery voltage is supposed to read? I hadn't driven the car in several days, and the voltage (according to the ECU) was 11.5V with the engine off. When the engine was running, it was at 14.0-14.5V, depending on whether I was idling or not. Then after a 20 minute drive, with the engine off, it settled back to approximately 12.0V.
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