How much Ford DNA is in our XK's?
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Front upper control arms are Ford. Thanks go to Forum member jahummer for identifying this cost savings. Some plastic fasteners are Ford parts.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...l-arms-187168/
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https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...l-arms-187168/
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ok. i ask because i think it's a common legend that ford told jaguar "how to do absolutely everything right" during the 1990s when (it seems) in reality they pretty much just improved some reliability stuff for the XF and moved on. the X100 and X150 were pretty much a ground-up reboot entirely within jaguar as i understand it. i've only recently begun to be disabused of this story myself.
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As Ford owned Jaguar and Volvo and Mazda and Aston Martin, and later Land Rover it’s no surprise the majority of parts are Ford sourced or in some way engineered by Ford. It’s good news for the second hand owners and DIYers as that means many parts may be sourced elsewhere for less than JLR prices.
Also don’t forget the Callum brothers worked for all five Marques which is why so many models across those brands share similar designs, lines and shapes.
Also don’t forget the Callum brothers worked for all five Marques which is why so many models across those brands share similar designs, lines and shapes.
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[QUOTE=jons;2426264 the X100 and X150 were pretty much a ground-up reboot entirely within jaguar as i understand it.[/QUOTE]
Not my understanding. A few friends have X100s. X150 are so much better designed, has fewer faults etc. Thanks to Ford. Jaguar had many strenghts, design quality and production quality was where Ford made a difference...
Not my understanding. A few friends have X100s. X150 are so much better designed, has fewer faults etc. Thanks to Ford. Jaguar had many strenghts, design quality and production quality was where Ford made a difference...
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Hmm, something I wonder.
Ford seemed to use Aston to develop aluminum production for very low production high cost cars.(DB9)
Then after doing the Aston Jaguar was used to deliver the same thing, but figure out how to do it cheaper(The X150).
Then after that, Ford came out with their Aluminum F150.
If I had to hazard, Ford wanted Jaguar/Aston so they could fund new technolegies through lower production brands.
Mission accomplished, they dumped them.
During the period, I would say that Jaguar technical development might have influenced Ford more than Ford influenced Jaguar.
However, I would also say this happened with the funding and direction of Ford.
But I don't know, these are just guesses.
I'd like to think my X150 is in the heritage of the new F150 pickup.
Ford seemed to use Aston to develop aluminum production for very low production high cost cars.(DB9)
Then after doing the Aston Jaguar was used to deliver the same thing, but figure out how to do it cheaper(The X150).
Then after that, Ford came out with their Aluminum F150.
If I had to hazard, Ford wanted Jaguar/Aston so they could fund new technolegies through lower production brands.
Mission accomplished, they dumped them.
During the period, I would say that Jaguar technical development might have influenced Ford more than Ford influenced Jaguar.
However, I would also say this happened with the funding and direction of Ford.
But I don't know, these are just guesses.
I'd like to think my X150 is in the heritage of the new F150 pickup.
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Arminius (08-12-2021)
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I've said this before but it would benefit all of us if we develop a comprehensive tread of all Ford ( or other brand's ) parts that interchange with the XK8.
I believe the XK8 transmission is the same as the Lincoln LS transmission ; I have been told that upper control arms are Ford but I do not know from what Ford model.
Jaguar parts are becoming harder to find while thier costs continue to group while Ford parts are relatively easy to find and always cost less.
I believe the XK8 transmission is the same as the Lincoln LS transmission ; I have been told that upper control arms are Ford but I do not know from what Ford model.
Jaguar parts are becoming harder to find while thier costs continue to group while Ford parts are relatively easy to find and always cost less.
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jimmiejag (08-12-2021)
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X150 upper control arms are Ford. See Post #5, above, and open the link for the part numbers.
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From what I understand Ford bought a few companies, Jaguar being one of them. By buying companies Ford also acquires their technology, so Volvo apparently were way ahead of everyone else with aluminum construction .
Apparently Ford never made any money on owning Jaguar, they also claim that the factory was one of the worst they had ever seen , which is interesting as many believe the Ford era Jags were some of the best ever built.
As far as Ford parts the glaringly obvious sits right in front of you......go sit in a 2007 era Mustang......and look at the steering wheel, some of the switches look surprisingly similar as well.
Ive often wondered about the engines as well, 4.2 V8, then a 5,0 V8 across both models......anyone know the answer to that one ?
Apparently Ford never made any money on owning Jaguar, they also claim that the factory was one of the worst they had ever seen , which is interesting as many believe the Ford era Jags were some of the best ever built.
As far as Ford parts the glaringly obvious sits right in front of you......go sit in a 2007 era Mustang......and look at the steering wheel, some of the switches look surprisingly similar as well.
Ive often wondered about the engines as well, 4.2 V8, then a 5,0 V8 across both models......anyone know the answer to that one ?
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Samets (08-13-2021)
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Found this keyless entry antenna mounted on the battery hold down yesterday. Google search crossed to use on the Ford Mondeo (Contour here in the US) but certainly other models as well.
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