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This is an unfortunate turn of events for you. These cars with low mileage in good condition are getting very rare. I'm on my 3rd XKR and had a difficult time finding the car I wanted. They do require maintenance and extra preventative maintenance to deal with the few known problems. Although, all performance oriented cars require extra maintenance. I only experienced the supercharger isolator problem which was covered under warranty; other than this the cars I've owned have been a dream. You are buying an 8 year old car with no warranty.
You're buying it unseen from a scrupulous dealer. The best of dealers are not totally truthful. Without knowing the car and being able to verify it's history you are taking a leap of faith. With the low mileage and being an XK it probably wasn't driven hard (less wear and tear). The leather dash problem is most likely from the car being subjected to the sun over and over and can be repaired professionally at a price.
If you want the car and can afford it, including the maintenance, I would require they repair the dash properly and have it professionally inspected.
When I purchased my 2014 XKR, Dynamic R, 2 years ago with certified warranty and only 15,000 miles I did the following as preventative maintenance :
1. Transmission fluid change.
2. Rare differential fluid change.
3. Coolant fluid change.
4. Brake fluid change.
5. Battery replacement.
6. Oil change.
7. Replaced all plastic coolant hoses with new or one piece newer version.
You will need to do all of the above and more. The car is 8 years old with known issues. The known issues can be dealt with through preventative and careful maintenance. Do I regret buying an XKR? Absolutely not. Will I buy anther one? Yes. Is the XK/XKR reliable? Yes, no worse than any other performance car.
You're buying it unseen from a scrupulous dealer. The best of dealers are not totally truthful. Without knowing the car and being able to verify it's history you are taking a leap of faith. With the low mileage and being an XK it probably wasn't driven hard (less wear and tear). The leather dash problem is most likely from the car being subjected to the sun over and over and can be repaired professionally at a price.
If you want the car and can afford it, including the maintenance, I would require they repair the dash properly and have it professionally inspected.
When I purchased my 2014 XKR, Dynamic R, 2 years ago with certified warranty and only 15,000 miles I did the following as preventative maintenance :
1. Transmission fluid change.
2. Rare differential fluid change.
3. Coolant fluid change.
4. Brake fluid change.
5. Battery replacement.
6. Oil change.
7. Replaced all plastic coolant hoses with new or one piece newer version.
You will need to do all of the above and more. The car is 8 years old with known issues. The known issues can be dealt with through preventative and careful maintenance. Do I regret buying an XKR? Absolutely not. Will I buy anther one? Yes. Is the XK/XKR reliable? Yes, no worse than any other performance car.
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OK, so you are in W Va. Where is the car? perhaps one of us could go have a look at it for you? Why have they sent you a picture of the issue through the windshield? It seems to me they should be able to get a good photo(s) from inside. You may want to PM Tberg. He is a member of the Forum and has had experience with the pulling dash and is knowledgeable regarding fabrics and leathers. Good luck
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OK, so you are in W Va. Where is the car? perhaps one of us could go have a look at it for you? Why have they sent you a picture of the issue through the windshield? It seems to me they should be able to get a good photo(s) from inside. You may want to PM Tberg. He is a member of the Forum and has had experience with the pulling dash and is knowledgeable regarding fabrics and leathers. Good luck
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Just got the call... they 'kicked it' to wholesale. All the email said was there were more issues than just the dash (again nothing that ever came up in any of the previous inspections or routine maintenance checks) and the total repair would be $5600. Me thinks someone there wants the car, but maybe it does have issues.
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Just got the call... they 'kicked it' to wholesale. All the email said was there were more issues than just the dash (again nothing that ever came up in any of the previous inspections or routine maintenance checks) and the total repair would be $5600. Me thinks someone there wants the car, but maybe it does have issues.
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I suggested that, or reduce the price but they wouldn't. She said their policy is if they can't repair something or the cost is too much they 'kick it'. I said, "Well you'd get more by reducing the price and selling to me than you're going to get at wholesale".
For anyone interested, it's going to be sold in GA, she's going to see if she can find out where, but my gut is telling me someone at the service center wants the car... or maybe it does have a lot of issues and the low miles were VERY hard miles put on it. Anyway, it's gone
I'm looking at some others. The coupes are getting hard to find.
For anyone interested, it's going to be sold in GA, she's going to see if she can find out where, but my gut is telling me someone at the service center wants the car... or maybe it does have a lot of issues and the low miles were VERY hard miles put on it. Anyway, it's gone
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I suggested that, or reduce the price but they wouldn't. She said their policy is if they can't repair something or the cost is too much they 'kick it'. I said, "Well you'd get more by reducing the price and selling to me than you're going to get at wholesale".
For anyone interested, it's going to be sold in GA, she's going to see if she can find out where, but my gut is telling me someone at the service center wants the car... or maybe it does have a lot of issues and the low miles were VERY hard miles put on it. Anyway, it's gone
I'm looking at some others. The coupes are getting hard to find.
For anyone interested, it's going to be sold in GA, she's going to see if she can find out where, but my gut is telling me someone at the service center wants the car... or maybe it does have a lot of issues and the low miles were VERY hard miles put on it. Anyway, it's gone
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Its just meant to be. Sorry for you loss....I know how you feel. I would like to say one will pop up just like it ......but those seats are kinda uber rare. Bright side is there are always black/black XK coupes for sale, just not with the performance seats. I would keep on the Carvana people, try to work you way up their chain to someone who has the horsepower to say yes to a wholesale deal.
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Barry Leftwich (12-09-2021)
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Well I did find another XK, but really loved that 2015. Get this... I found it! It is now for sale at a dealership in Chicago for $50K! They did buy it from an auction in GA, so it was 'kicked' to wholesale, but they said there was no mechanical issues, the motor was fine and running strong, and the dash appears to be minor and just starting the glue separation up by the defroster vent. The original dealer lost money on this car I'm sure of that. There was no reason to wholesale it. I'll never know what it sold for at auction, but I am sure it was a fraction of the price it is listed at now. I just can't believe things went down the way they did with this car. Some lucky person, especially if it's someone from this forum that has read the history of all this could probably negitiate a much better price. Hell if I lived closer to Chicago I'd be there right now!
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Well I did find another XK, but really loved that 2015. Get this... I found it! It is now for sale at a dealership in Chicago for $50K! They did buy it from an auction in GA, so it was 'kicked' to wholesale, but they said there was no mechanical issues, the motor was fine and running strong, and the dash appears to be minor and just starting the glue separation up by the defroster vent. The original dealer lost money on this car I'm sure of that. There was no reason to wholesale it. I'll never know what it sold for at auction, but I am sure it was a fraction of the price it is listed at now. I just can't believe things went down the way they did with this car. Some lucky person, especially if it's someone from this forum that has read the history of all this could probably negitiate a much better price. Hell if I lived closer to Chicago I'd be there right now!
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jahummer (12-09-2021)
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This is an unfortunate turn of events for you. These cars with low mileage in good condition are getting very rare. I'm on my 3rd XKR and had a difficult time finding the car I wanted. They do require maintenance and extra preventative maintenance to deal with the few known problems. Although, all performance oriented cars require extra maintenance. I only experienced the supercharger isolator problem which was covered under warranty; other than this the cars I've owned have been a dream. You are buying an 8 year old car with no warranty.
You're buying it unseen from a scrupulous dealer. The best of dealers are not totally truthful. Without knowing the car and being able to verify it's history you are taking a leap of faith. With the low mileage and being an XK it probably wasn't driven hard (less wear and tear). The leather dash problem is most likely from the car being subjected to the sun over and over and can be repaired professionally at a price.
If you want the car and can afford it, including the maintenance, I would require they repair the dash properly and have it professionally inspected.
When I purchased my 2014 XKR, Dynamic R, 2 years ago with certified warranty and only 15,000 miles I did the following as preventative maintenance :
1. Transmission fluid change.
2. Rare differential fluid change.
3. Coolant fluid change.
4. Brake fluid change.
5. Battery replacement.
6. Oil change.
7. Replaced all plastic coolant hoses with new or one piece newer version.
You will need to do all of the above and more. The car is 8 years old with known issues. The known issues can be dealt with through preventative and careful maintenance. Do I regret buying an XKR? Absolutely not. Will I buy anther one? Yes. Is the XK/XKR reliable? Yes, no worse than any other performance car.
You're buying it unseen from a scrupulous dealer. The best of dealers are not totally truthful. Without knowing the car and being able to verify it's history you are taking a leap of faith. With the low mileage and being an XK it probably wasn't driven hard (less wear and tear). The leather dash problem is most likely from the car being subjected to the sun over and over and can be repaired professionally at a price.
If you want the car and can afford it, including the maintenance, I would require they repair the dash properly and have it professionally inspected.
When I purchased my 2014 XKR, Dynamic R, 2 years ago with certified warranty and only 15,000 miles I did the following as preventative maintenance :
1. Transmission fluid change.
2. Rare differential fluid change.
3. Coolant fluid change.
4. Brake fluid change.
5. Battery replacement.
6. Oil change.
7. Replaced all plastic coolant hoses with new or one piece newer version.
You will need to do all of the above and more. The car is 8 years old with known issues. The known issues can be dealt with through preventative and careful maintenance. Do I regret buying an XKR? Absolutely not. Will I buy anther one? Yes. Is the XK/XKR reliable? Yes, no worse than any other performance car.
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Prolly should have started a different thread Barry but any transmission shop can do both. The transmission in your car is also in Audi's, BMW's, Hyundai's and others. It's a common transmission and nothing that any decent trans shop can't handle. Dame with the differential.
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Below is the car the OP lost out on. This is a link to the auction that it just sold for ($33,6000). Its being re-sold at Greater Chicago Motors for $50k. Here is the auction results with lots of detailed pics from the auction. I wonder if they will disclose the known issues to prospective buyers over the phone? As with any used car dealer, you have to do a proper PPI in person as Greater Chicago Motors will not let the vehicle leave their property for an inspection. BTW, it shows a detailed pic of the dash separation.....pretty bad. Nice car.....Ill let the collective comment on the asking price.
https://plc.ua/en/auctions/lot/jagua...4fb8flb55009/#
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Below is the car the OP lost out on. This is a link to the auction that it just sold for ($33,6000). Its being re-sold at Greater Chicago Motors for $50k. Here is the auction results with lots of detailed pics from the auction. I wonder if they will disclose the known issues to prospective buyers over the phone? As with any used car dealer, you have to do a proper PPI in person as Greater Chicago Motors will not let the vehicle leave their property for an inspection. BTW, it shows a detailed pic of the dash separation.....pretty bad. Nice car.....Ill let the collective comment on the asking price.
https://plc.ua/en/auctions/lot/jagua...4fb8flb55009/#
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That is a much clearer picture of the dash than what they sent me. Funny though that during the several 150 point inspections that was never seen until the delivery inspection. Even the original dealer pics didn't show any signs of that. Any idea what the codes mean? I guess they got more than I thought they would get at auction. I'm still waiting on the 2013.
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Prolly should have started a different thread Barry but any transmission shop can do both. The transmission in your car is also in Audi's, BMW's, Hyundai's and others. It's a common transmission and nothing that any decent trans shop can't handle. Dame with the differential.
Last edited by Barry Leftwich; 12-10-2021 at 02:54 PM.
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Sean W (12-10-2021)
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I didn't think of it this way. I just need to do a little research and find the right transmission shop that could give me a good fluid change. Im trying to get it changed when i reach the 65,000-75,000 mile mark even tho my friend who have a 2009 XK is close to 150,000 miles and never had a transmission fluid change. I just don't feel like taking no chances lol
At very high operating temperatures, the oil ages faster than under normal conditions. Examples:
Many trips at high speeds.
Many trips with a trailer in tow.
Sporty driving.
Depending on the driving style, ZF therefore recommends a transmission oil change every 80 000 to 120 000 km, or after 8 years at the latest."
So that's 50,000 miles - 74,500 miles depending on your driving style. Obviously the more aggressive driving and environment, the closer to 50,000 miles you want to change.
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