Key fob replacement
#61
I have read through this thread, and have seen several bad and good experiences... I recently purchased the XKR and it only came with one key, which works fine. I want to get a second key and get it programmed, without screwing up the original key's capability. I have found, on eBay, new aftermarket key fobs with uncut entry keys for ~$70. Do these work? Assuming the local Jag dealer will program it, what are the risks?
Thanks for any help from those of you who have been through the minefield..
Thanks for any help from those of you who have been through the minefield..
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#62
I see you have a 2007, so you should be very wary about online FOB purchasing. In 2007, they went from a single-channel FOB to a multi-channel FOB, and they are not interchangeable. from another thread on this topic, that change happened at VIN B12815 which is part way through the 2007 MY. Check your VIN. If you are earlier than 12815, you'll need a single-channel FOB. I learned this the hard way, but the information is in these forums for those who dig deep!
#63
That is a question that I don't have an answer for. My bet is that most of the FOBs available that claim to fit our cars will work. I think the problem is the earlier VINs like mine, because even the dealer was unaware of the difference until they couldn't program my FOB. Then it took a couple of weeks for them to figure it out, by which time I had came across the thread in these forums. I still have the spare FOB that came with my (used) car that 'just needed to be programmed'. I'll try to dig it up and compare the chip to your picture. It'll be tomorrow before I can get back to you on it.
#64
There are no aftermarket X150 Smartkey fobs, but there are aftermarket cases for the electronics. You can either buy a brand new Jaguar X150 Smartkey from a Jaguar dealer or Forum Sponsor that sells parts, or a used Smartkey from Ebay or other vendor.
BUYER BEWARE! A used Smartkey might not be programmable, so get a written guarantee that it's refundable in full if it doesn't work. Smartkeys are "paired" to a specific car; like a child to its parent. To reprogram a Smartkey for use in another X150, it must first be unpaired ("divorced") from its parent. Otherwise, it's a brick. To unpair that Smartkey, it must be present together with its parent vehicle. Once that Smartkey is cleared, it can be reprogrammed and paired to another vehicle.
Unpairing and reprogramming is done with the Jaguar SDD (System Driven Diagnostics) equipment.
BUYER BEWARE! A used Smartkey might not be programmable, so get a written guarantee that it's refundable in full if it doesn't work. Smartkeys are "paired" to a specific car; like a child to its parent. To reprogram a Smartkey for use in another X150, it must first be unpaired ("divorced") from its parent. Otherwise, it's a brick. To unpair that Smartkey, it must be present together with its parent vehicle. Once that Smartkey is cleared, it can be reprogrammed and paired to another vehicle.
Unpairing and reprogramming is done with the Jaguar SDD (System Driven Diagnostics) equipment.
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007XKR (01-28-2021)
#65
"BUYER BEWARE! A used Smartkey might not be programmable, so get a written guarantee that it's refundable in full if it doesn't work. Smartkeys are "paired" to a specific car; like a child to its parent. To reprogram a Smartkey for use in another X150, it must first be unpaired ("divorced") from its parent. Otherwise, it's a brick. To unpair that Smartkey, it must be present together with its parent vehicle. Once that Smartkey is cleared, it can be reprogrammed and paired to another vehicle."
+1 on this.
The dealer also said that you cannot program a single key FOB. You had to have the original plus the new ones that you want to add. If your original is damaged (mine was), then you have to buy 2 new FOBs. They were in the neighborhood of $225 each from Jaguar. They also don't come with the aluminum key, so if you want that, it's another $185 to have one cut and shipped from across the pond.
+1 on this.
The dealer also said that you cannot program a single key FOB. You had to have the original plus the new ones that you want to add. If your original is damaged (mine was), then you have to buy 2 new FOBs. They were in the neighborhood of $225 each from Jaguar. They also don't come with the aluminum key, so if you want that, it's another $185 to have one cut and shipped from across the pond.
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Stuart S (01-28-2021)
#66
I had a bit of an issue with FOBs - a very good locksmith pointed out I had bought the wrong one and that there were differences, a local Jag dealer confirmed the correct fob over the phone. I didn't progress at that point.
Shortly afterwards my breakdown cover offered me with free key fob replacement. I made a claim a few months later, and they put a locksmith in touch with me. I gave him the part no of the key I needed and he ordered it.
When he came to the house he cancelled the key that was lost (don't know how), and re-programmed my new and existing keys to the car.
Since he did this the car has stopped automatically locking its doors randomly
Shortly afterwards my breakdown cover offered me with free key fob replacement. I made a claim a few months later, and they put a locksmith in touch with me. I gave him the part no of the key I needed and he ordered it.
When he came to the house he cancelled the key that was lost (don't know how), and re-programmed my new and existing keys to the car.
Since he did this the car has stopped automatically locking its doors randomly
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Bill Mack (01-29-2021)
#67
Random automatic locking may be caused by a low battery, and is "cured" after driving enough to recharge the battery. A low battery can cause many electrical gremlins.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...oltage-109544/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...oltage-109544/
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wsn03 (01-29-2021)
#68
Random automatic locking may be caused by a low battery, and is "cured" after driving enough to recharge the battery. A low battery can cause many electrical gremlins.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...oltage-109544/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...oltage-109544/
#69
Henry, here is a picture of the FOB that came with my car that 'just needed to be programmed'. This is not OEM and is multi-channel. The dealer was willing to try programming it, which indicates that it's possible to use something like this, but they also strongly recommended using only OEM.
Button side
Battery side
This is a paperweight to me. I'd be willing to drop the FOB in the mail to you, but I can't guarantee it will work for anything. I'd echo the advice above to stick with OEM, but if it's something you want to pursue, and you PM me an address, I'll mail you this thing and it can be your new paperweight or new FOB.
Button side
Battery side
This is a paperweight to me. I'd be willing to drop the FOB in the mail to you, but I can't guarantee it will work for anything. I'd echo the advice above to stick with OEM, but if it's something you want to pursue, and you PM me an address, I'll mail you this thing and it can be your new paperweight or new FOB.
#70
Henry, here is a picture of the FOB that came with my car that 'just needed to be programmed'. This is not OEM and is multi-channel. The dealer was willing to try programming it, which indicates that it's possible to use something like this, but they also strongly recommended using only OEM.
Button side
Battery side
This is a paperweight to me. I'd be willing to drop the FOB in the mail to you, but I can't guarantee it will work for anything. I'd echo the advice above to stick with OEM, but if it's something you want to pursue, and you PM me an address, I'll mail you this thing and it can be your new paperweight or new FOB.
Button side
Battery side
This is a paperweight to me. I'd be willing to drop the FOB in the mail to you, but I can't guarantee it will work for anything. I'd echo the advice above to stick with OEM, but if it's something you want to pursue, and you PM me an address, I'll mail you this thing and it can be your new paperweight or new FOB.
That's where the Starter Control Unit in the center console comes into play. Docking the Smartkey fob into the SCU will enable you to start the engine.
You have no guarantee that this aftermarket, multi-channel device will work properly. What if it doesn't and fries the starting circuit and modules? Are you willing to take that risk to save a couple hundred bucks?
Why do Jaguars have 9 lives? Because they look before they leap!
#71
Henry, here is a picture of the FOB that came with my car that 'just needed to be programmed'. This is not OEM and is multi-channel. The dealer was willing to try programming it, which indicates that it's possible to use something like this, but they also strongly recommended using only OEM.
Button side
Battery side
This is a paperweight to me. I'd be willing to drop the FOB in the mail to you, but I can't guarantee it will work for anything. I'd echo the advice above to stick with OEM, but if it's something you want to pursue, and you PM me an address, I'll mail you this thing and it can be your new paperweight or new FOB.
Button side
Battery side
This is a paperweight to me. I'd be willing to drop the FOB in the mail to you, but I can't guarantee it will work for anything. I'd echo the advice above to stick with OEM, but if it's something you want to pursue, and you PM me an address, I'll mail you this thing and it can be your new paperweight or new FOB.
#72
Henry,
It's your car, your money, and your choice. But don't say that I didn't warn you in my Post #70, above, about using that multi-functional, non-OEM Jaguar remote. Even if it's made by the same manufacturer, it's multifunctional and not identical and could damage the Starter Control Unit and brick your car. Is it worth it?
That's up to you.
Stuart
It's your car, your money, and your choice. But don't say that I didn't warn you in my Post #70, above, about using that multi-functional, non-OEM Jaguar remote. Even if it's made by the same manufacturer, it's multifunctional and not identical and could damage the Starter Control Unit and brick your car. Is it worth it?
That's up to you.
Stuart
#73
That's where the Starter Control Unit in the center console comes into play. Docking the Smartkey fob into the SCU will enable you to start the engine.
You have no guarantee that this aftermarket, multi-channel device will work properly. What if it doesn't and fries the starting circuit and modules? Are you willing to take that risk to save a couple hundred bucks?
Why do Jaguars have 9 lives? Because they look before they leap!
You have no guarantee that this aftermarket, multi-channel device will work properly. What if it doesn't and fries the starting circuit and modules? Are you willing to take that risk to save a couple hundred bucks?
Why do Jaguars have 9 lives? Because they look before they leap!
I would stick to a genuine one myself but the only danger I can see is that it either just doesn't work or gets stuck in the slot.
#74
My point is that, IMHO, in the worst-case scenario it's simply not worth the risk. Others may disagree.
Again, it's the OP's car, his money, and his choice. It's a crapshoot. What's the worst thing that can happen, and is the risk worth the reward?
#75
Henry,
It's your car, your money, and your choice. But don't say that I didn't warn you in my Post #70, above, about using that multi-functional, non-OEM Jaguar remote. Even if it's made by the same manufacturer, it's multifunctional and not identical and could damage the Starter Control Unit and brick your car. Is it worth it?
That's up to you.
Stuart
It's your car, your money, and your choice. But don't say that I didn't warn you in my Post #70, above, about using that multi-functional, non-OEM Jaguar remote. Even if it's made by the same manufacturer, it's multifunctional and not identical and could damage the Starter Control Unit and brick your car. Is it worth it?
That's up to you.
Stuart
The local dealer where I live wants about $800 for a new fob, cut key and programming. They are known for being really high priced and no nearby competition. I'm not going to spend that much.
Thanks
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Henry Schmitt (02-01-2021)
#77
I appreciate your concerns, and understand the risks from yours and others posts. At present, I do not have access to a locksmith or dealer to program a FOB, be it OE or aftermarket. Since you are in Atlanta, can you suggest a fob programmer? I can ask those folks what they will and will not do, and go from there...
The local dealer where I live wants about $800 for a new fob, cut key and programming. They are known for being really high priced and no nearby competition. I'm not going to spend that much.
Thanks
The local dealer where I live wants about $800 for a new fob, cut key and programming. They are known for being really high priced and no nearby competition. I'm not going to spend that much.
Thanks
I paid a little less as they comp’ed the programming for me but no deals here in RI either. I had no luck with local locksmiths. I will say I feel much better having a second key available despite the high cost.
A call to other Jag dealers in Columbia, Charlotte and Asheville may be worth the time. May be they will be more reasonable.
#78
I recently went thru this on my 09 XKR. Only came with one factory key. I ordered a "replacement" online and went to the dealer to have it programmed. The dealer was great, they tried for well over an hour to program the new key with no success. I then bought a factory key fob from them and the key was programmed within a half hour. Factory key cost me $225. Luckily, the seller of the aftermarket key allowed me to return it for a full refund. Be careful, at one point while programing the aftermarket key they lost the signal between the factory key and the car. They were lucky to get them communicating again. Best of luck to anyone else trying this.
#79
I appreciate your concerns, and understand the risks from yours and others posts. At present, I do not have access to a locksmith or dealer to program a FOB, be it OE or aftermarket. Since you are in Atlanta, can you suggest a fob programmer? I can ask those folks what they will and will not do, and go from there...
The local dealer where I live wants about $800 for a new fob, cut key and programming. They are known for being really high priced and no nearby competition. I'm not going to spend that much.
Thanks
The local dealer where I live wants about $800 for a new fob, cut key and programming. They are known for being really high priced and no nearby competition. I'm not going to spend that much.
Thanks
Fancy cars have expensive tastes. Thanks to all of you (especially Stuart and 007XKR) for your help and advice, it was needed to help me know that while the cost may be a rip-off, there are no other reliable solutions.
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