Lets talk about Bushings and Suspension.....
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mattastic13 (01-18-2024)
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Sorry for all the distress here, but I'm comforted to see that this is a "thing," and not just a problem with my car. Having some bushings replaced right now (at the 20,000 mile mark, but then the car is six years old) and didn't even know it was a problem-- though I was noticing the steering wasn't as tight as I thought it had been. And while I'm comfortable doing basic repairs (don't have a garage so I do them in our parking structure), I'm glad I'm having this done by a tech.
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I can remember vividly when my coil overs were being installed, I noticed the stock bushings looked like they wouldn't last to long. The rubber is way to soft for a car this heavy and powerful. You can also hear them creak when entering a steep entrance if you enter at an angle, as I'm sure they are being pushed(or crushed)to their limits.
The control arm bushings looked like a gummy bear material , they just didn't hold their form well. This all has to do with Jaguar's accepted level of noise, vibration and harshness thresholds. The cars are really stiff so they allow some compliance in places most people won't notice.
I though didn't think about it again as all my other sports cars had bushings that lasted past 50k. Then I took my RR sport in for service last week and it needs 3k worth of control arm and tie rod bushings at 60k miles.
If they made urethane bushings I would replace them, but those can annoyingly squeak if not lubricated correctly. There is a lot of movement in the stock bushings, my rear roll bar bushings were already showing minor cracks at around 5k miles.
The control arm bushings looked like a gummy bear material , they just didn't hold their form well. This all has to do with Jaguar's accepted level of noise, vibration and harshness thresholds. The cars are really stiff so they allow some compliance in places most people won't notice.
I though didn't think about it again as all my other sports cars had bushings that lasted past 50k. Then I took my RR sport in for service last week and it needs 3k worth of control arm and tie rod bushings at 60k miles.
If they made urethane bushings I would replace them, but those can annoyingly squeak if not lubricated correctly. There is a lot of movement in the stock bushings, my rear roll bar bushings were already showing minor cracks at around 5k miles.
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Will I thought there were none on the market but I may look at these even for my F Type
Jaguar Performance Suspension Bushings
I'll have to do some research on the overall quality of the bushings.
Jaguar Performance Suspension Bushings
I'll have to do some research on the overall quality of the bushings.
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Mine did this when new and the coil overs brought it out a bit more as the springs were stiffer. Although this is much better than the car twisting as my C4 convertible did back in my 90s.
#32
Regarding my creak noise when turning right onto an incline they have ruled out suspension and even removed and greased the A Frame Bolts.... they have no idea why mine creaks.... Again - nothing surprises me with my lemon haha.
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I am in the process of overhauling the entire front end of my '07 XK coupe. Everything is moving along smoothly. I was looking for some information on replacing the lower ball joint in the wheel knuckle that connects to the lower lateral control arm. Any suggestions?
Steve, I don't want to cause you extra work but would you mind starting a thread with what you're doing and have done. Are you doing it yourself? I would like to replace all of the bushings and anything else i can to make the car ride more like new.
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StevenUSAnh (12-04-2016)
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Hi Robbing, I am doing it all myself! I would be happy to put all of the information on a new thread. I can list all of the parts, references to the repair manual, non-manual listed helpful procedures such as how to replace the stabilizer bushings in a simple manner but you need a few very long extensions on the end of a ratchet wrench, or as my wife calls it a racket wrench. Every bushing is getting replaced. I even found a hose that was way too close to the power belt and potentially could wear the power belt. I tied it off to the frame so that it doesn't flop around - less wear. It should be fun. I will start the thread in the morning.
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I just finished up rebuilding the front suspension in my '07 XK. I was a great project and made a wonderful difference in handling and now, NO NOISE! I replaced:
1. L&R wheel hub & bearing
2. L&R upper control arms
3. L&R top mount plate
4. L&R damper (shock absorber)
5. L&R stabilizer link
6. L&R lower lateral control arm bushings
7. L&R stabilizer arm bushings
8. L&R lower control arms
9. L&R ball joints on the lower lateral control arms
I sand blasted and painted just about everything I removed and reused. It all looks very nice now. The test drive was a joy. Almost every part came from Reno Jaguar online parts. Excellent group out there.
1. L&R wheel hub & bearing
2. L&R upper control arms
3. L&R top mount plate
4. L&R damper (shock absorber)
5. L&R stabilizer link
6. L&R lower lateral control arm bushings
7. L&R stabilizer arm bushings
8. L&R lower control arms
9. L&R ball joints on the lower lateral control arms
I sand blasted and painted just about everything I removed and reused. It all looks very nice now. The test drive was a joy. Almost every part came from Reno Jaguar online parts. Excellent group out there.
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I just finished up rebuilding the front suspension in my '07 XK. I was a great project and made a wonderful difference in handling and now, NO NOISE! I replaced:
1. L&R wheel hub & bearing
2. L&R upper control arms
3. L&R top mount plate
4. L&R damper (shock absorber)
5. L&R stabilizer link
6. L&R lower lateral control arm bushings
7. L&R stabilizer arm bushings
8. L&R lower control arms
9. L&R ball joints on the lower lateral control arms
I sand blasted and painted just about everything I removed and reused. It all looks very nice now. The test drive was a joy. Almost every part came from Reno Jaguar online parts. Excellent group out there.
1. L&R wheel hub & bearing
2. L&R upper control arms
3. L&R top mount plate
4. L&R damper (shock absorber)
5. L&R stabilizer link
6. L&R lower lateral control arm bushings
7. L&R stabilizer arm bushings
8. L&R lower control arms
9. L&R ball joints on the lower lateral control arms
I sand blasted and painted just about everything I removed and reused. It all looks very nice now. The test drive was a joy. Almost every part came from Reno Jaguar online parts. Excellent group out there.
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I just finished up rebuilding the front suspension in my '07 XK. I was a great project and made a wonderful difference in handling and now, NO NOISE! I replaced:
1. L&R wheel hub & bearing
2. L&R upper control arms
3. L&R top mount plate
4. L&R damper (shock absorber)
5. L&R stabilizer link
6. L&R lower lateral control arm bushings
7. L&R stabilizer arm bushings
8. L&R lower control arms
9. L&R ball joints on the lower lateral control arms
I sand blasted and painted just about everything I removed and reused. It all looks very nice now. The test drive was a joy. Almost every part came from Reno Jaguar online parts. Excellent group out there.
1. L&R wheel hub & bearing
2. L&R upper control arms
3. L&R top mount plate
4. L&R damper (shock absorber)
5. L&R stabilizer link
6. L&R lower lateral control arm bushings
7. L&R stabilizer arm bushings
8. L&R lower control arms
9. L&R ball joints on the lower lateral control arms
I sand blasted and painted just about everything I removed and reused. It all looks very nice now. The test drive was a joy. Almost every part came from Reno Jaguar online parts. Excellent group out there.
Did you ever create that thread you mentioned above?
A list of the part numbers would be great.
And for those of us that may want to tackle this in the future, any hints for things you ran into, would be great.
Yep, that Reno Jaguar online parts is a great resource, bought several things from them at the best prices.