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CeeJay your making a bold accusation... clearly you must have proof to back your stance right? Could you share that with us so we have something to go on?
 
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Originally Posted by Leeper
CeeJay your making a bold accusation... clearly you must have proof to back your stance right? Could you share that with us so we have something to go on?
I have a LOT of proof that Michelins fall apart before the 3,000 mile mark, and only speculation that Michelin buys off authors. Of course, many, MANY companies buy off authors so it certainly wouldn't be unexpected. After all, Michelin DOES skew ratings into their favor. I have proof of that also.
Regardless of all that, I just don't want anyone to be going down the freeway rapidly and have their tires fly apart like mine did (though not on the freeway). Could be/would be deadly.
So, if you DO have MPSS tires, PLEASE check them out visually for cracks inside the tread. Sure wish I would have sooner.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:50 PM
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CeeJay - we get it that you had issues with your MPSS, I don't think anyone here doubts that but your preposterous and brazenly unfounded accusations only make your original claim look less believable. No need to try to "pad" your story with such nonsense and outright lying as you have ZERO proof of the claim you made. Stick to truth and proof making false claims is hardly helping anyone let alone your credibility...


Back to the facts - the VAST majority of those who have used MPSS tires have had praise for them, including this original poster and most every avenue you can look up for reviews. There are almost no places that do not rate them the highest in their category, there will be exceptions, sounds like you're one of them, but that does not make the others any less wrong for enjoying them. That also includes usage above and beyond new and yes over 3K miles which you say is when you're biggest issue occurred. The VAST majority state that would and have purchased them again which says a lot to their contentment
 

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Old 04-13-2016, 05:04 PM
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Maybe by the time I need some new shoes for my cat, I'll get 'lucky' and brand 'X' will have put out tire model 'Y', that put all other makers to shame, and they all dropped out of the market, leaving me the one and only, absolute best choice, for my car.
 
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Leeper
CeeJay - we get it that you had issues with your MPSS, I don't think anyone here doubts that but your preposterous and brazenly unfounded accusations only make your original claim look less believable. ...........
?????? I have ZERO clue as to what I claimed which was unfounded. Michelin DID refuse to post my customer rating. Here's the copy, which I kept:

Subject: Your review has been moderated
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:20:50 -0600

It cannot be published to the website, but..
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Cee Jay,

Our staff has read your review and values your contribution even though it did not meet all our website guidelines. Thanks for sharing, and we hope to publish next time!

Thanks again,
Michelin North America, Inc.

Rubbish tire! These Pilot Super Sport tires are supposedly "Ultra High Performance" but are barely usable on anything but the nicest of summer days. When it is wet, cold, or any weather condition OTHER than perfectly nice and sunny, these poor tires slide all over the place. They have the worst traction cold than any tire I've ever owned, and by "cold" I mean anything under Sixty Degrees Fahrenheit. Not much better on warm days either. That is truly pathetic. Trying to accelerate onto a freeway is a tricky and DANGEROUS proposition for these UHP tires, the back end of my car slides all over the place and just cannot get a grip. Horrid tires, buy ANYTHING else.


Contact Customer Service with questions or concerns.

This email was sent by: Michelin
Street Address, City, State, 12345, USA

This Email was from BEFORE I noticed that they were throwing pieces off. Of course, that may have something to do with why they SUCK SO BAD.

Michelin is ALSO a company, and many companies DO pay authors and reporters to "play up" their products.

So anyway Leeper, I USED to value your opinions in most every post and thread in the forum. Maybe now I'll put you in the "Crappy Tire Manufacturer" class, and disregard most everything you speak of. Calling my claims "unfounded".
 
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lothar52
I value ride over sportscar feel. Considering most of the time my jag is on a freeway going 75mph I value ride... thinking DWS's might be the way to go for me? I also need something that handles well in rain and snow...

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I put Nitto Motivo's on mine. So far so good. Not ultimate stick but they are an M&S tire and a 60k warranty. I've put 11,000 miles on them and they're wearing like iron. I live in Atlanta and our issue is rain. The standing water is terrible. These cut through quite well. Comfy and quiet. A summer only tire is no good for me. I drive the Jag in below freezing temps and summer tires are damn near deadly in cold weather. Not to mention the prospect of buying new tires every 15k miles. That's almost once a year for me. I almost went with the DWS's but couldn't deny the Nitto warranty. They even include staggered fitment.

These are the 295/30-20 rears....
 

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Old 04-13-2016, 07:30 PM
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CeeJay see your post #80 -
Yep, as long as you don't go over 3,000 miles and they fly apart.
How much do you think Michelin paid for that "Unbiased Review"???


That is an unfounded accusation

your #2 post in this thread -
Condolences on your loss, Captain. (captusnr)

A rather snide comment left for someone who just mentioned he bought his SECOND set proudly so clearly he is a happy repeat buyer but instead of letting that go and being happy for him you tossed in that passive/aggressive comment.

Your reading comprehension is off by a lot. Again, no one, including me, has mentioned that you did not encounter issues with your tires what I did say is that you both need to constantly get emotional about your experience (EVERY time someone has either mentioned new tires or specifically MPSS's you go bananas...then when other don't heed your warning you make it more emotional then resorted to making unsubstantiated claims that Michelin has "paid" C&D for their review. Now you're threatening to not read my opinion... get over yourself. Maybe others actually LIKE their MPSS's isn't that OK too?!?! Should they always hear about how wrong they are? The original poster was kind in posting he didn't need to hear that nor the others being told "hope they have good life insurance" from you, that is neither helpful in any way nor remotely considerate. No one is attacking your disgust for the tires, I am attacking your claim about being paid until you provide proof otherwise until then you are making serious accusations to try to bolster your stance that you cannot back.

I had them, LOVED them! Great on dry, awesome on wet, again I'm in S Cal and the weather frequently gets to 100+ never had any issues whatsoever. and guess what... at 3K miles you know what happened?!?!? NOTHING. I would happily buy them again in a second adn pay more than other tires. That is my review and I was not paid by Michelin. It seems MANY others here had the same experience, and also sounds like one or two had different experiences and that's OK too. Currently running Dunlop Speed Maxx 20" as they came on my car and I'm quite surprised at how happy I am with them thus far so when the time comes it may well come down to whichever of those two choices are the least expensive... and like Q&C said I'll probably get them at Costco unless DTC can do me another killer deal
 

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Old 04-13-2016, 09:10 PM
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I didn't say I wouldn't read anything you wrote. I said "disregard most".
Anyway, you go ahead and get all butt-hurt because I got eight crappy Michelins, I hope it makes your day. Maybe YOU have stock in Michelin?
Me, I'll keep doing what I do. Just remember; This is the "Michelin Pilot Super Sport" thread and I have Valid Information. They are what they are, I just don't know why YOU care about what I say so incredibly much. Ya don't like it, IGNORE it. Now, let it go and let's get back to the thread without prejudice.
 
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Old 04-13-2016, 09:54 PM
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I think the dead horse has been beaten more than enough…

I can only comment on my own personal experience as well as the positive experiences of people I know who track their Jags, Porches & BMWs at Sebring and other Florida tracks with PSS tires. While I only have around 1000-1500 or so miles on them, I have driven in 40 degree (great supercharger weather) and some wet roads with no issues. The only thing I have not done is driven in snow, but then they are not intended for such use.
 
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I didn't say I wouldn't read anything you wrote. I said "disregard most".
Anyway, you go ahead and get all butt-hurt because I got eight crappy Michelins, I hope it makes your day
. Again that is seriously passsive/aggressive, I never insinuated that nor would wish that upon anyoneMaybe YOU have stock in Michelin? and maybe I do not. I have absolutely ZERO affiliation with Michelin other than a happy customer for the last 35 years. I do not get any discount, own any stock, get an sort of special treatment from them or any tire company in any way... I ahve used LOTS fo tires on both my motorcycles adn cars and never had any issue with any other than BF Goodrich
Me, I'll keep doing what I do. Just remember; This is the "Michelin Pilot Super Sport" thread and I have Valid Information. Except you DON'T... you do not and cannot back your assertion that Michelin paid off C&D as you professedThey are what they are, I just don't know why YOU care about what I say so incredibly much. Ya don't like it, IGNORE it. Now, let it go and let's get back to the thread without prejudice. Wow if that isn't irony right there! Nice but aren't you the one who posted "prejudice" throughout this thread and every other one related to tires espousing your displeasure with them? Nothing wrong with opinions until they such time as the become emotional "warnings" or passive aggressive comments as mentioned prior. If that isn't ironic I don't know what is. I added the .02 worth simply to tell the other opinion, which is every bit as valid as yours, then brought up your unfounded assertions of bribery asking for you to show any proof.
 
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Get a room you two...............
 
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*sigh*


So, how bout this weather?
 
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Last I saw the MPSS wont even fit on my Kalimnos rims... backs require 285's... I doubt 295's will fit???? anyone put 295's on Kalimnos rims?
 
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295 will fit your rims
 
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Old 04-15-2016, 11:40 AM
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295 will fit your rims
That IS EXCITING... Its not that I don't trust ya leeper but would love to hear from someone who has done it... unless you have?? These are the regular XKR rims that are less wide than the XKRS rims (those come in 295 and 305 can fit on XKRS Vulcans). Anybody confirm they put 295's on a regular rear XKR rim?? I can not remember the true dimensions of the kalimnos or the vulcans...
 
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No worries, there's been a large number of threads confirming this, do a search it'll come up
 
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As an owner of a new 2015 Corvette C7, the Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires are standard OEM for this car.

GM and Michelin both have a disclaimer on these tires that they should not be driven in temps under 32 degrees due to lack of grip and possible harm to the driver and car. This caution applies to even dry pavement.

All the preceding advice contains the regular car, but if you have the Z-51 model, its tires are susceptible to cracking in cold weather and as their composition is designed for "pavement stickiness" when cornering hard in warm and hot weather, those tires, conversely, become really hard and lose much of their cornering and stopping ability when really cold. Therefore, for a Z-51 model, the above caution is doubled or tripled, not just for your safety but to prevent cracking of your tires' rubber and other compounds.
 
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The same advice holds for any summer performance tire with regard to serious traction loss when temps drop below 40 degrees be them Michelin's, Dunlop's, Bridge stones, etc
 

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I can attest to that, when a shop errantly installed a set of summer tires on the rear of my car, i went to make a turn at not unreasonable speed in the cool of the morning. My front wheels went onto the new road just fine, but my back wheels insisted on continuing down the road I'd been traveling previously. Fortunately, I was turning onto a road that was multiple lanes wide, could put some right foot in it, and recover the car from splaying itself sideways without incident.
 
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Originally Posted by Jockster
Get a room you two...............

LMFAO...While I dont dispute leeper claims, I have not had the same experience. MPSS have been great on my XKR. My only complaint is they need to be replaced....frequently. and they are not cheap. But being that I'm spontaneous and impulsive, I'd prefer to have a tire on my 600+ HP Supercar that provides the most traction possible....just in case. Just my 2 cents.
 


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