Mystery Coolant Leak
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Mystery Coolant Leak
My 2009 XKR started dripping coolant on the floor, but I can't locate the source. The posted pictures show the location from the top of the engine compartment where it appears to be coming from, due to the moist panel thats its dripping from in the underneath photo. Anyone have a clue?
Thanks.
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The outlet at the bottom of the coolant overflow bottle is prone to cracking where the nipple emerges from the bottle. It is close enough that it could be the issue. Definitely deserves an inspection. If that breaks off while driving all your coolant will be pumped out in an matter of seconds.
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tberg (10-06-2016)
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Thanks. I just checked and it appears to be fine. Every place you can look down into the engine compartment appears bone dry and there's no leakage in the footwells of the car. Is there a connection somewhere behind the center console? That seems to be the approximate area below the car where the wet shield is.
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Infrared would be hard to detect on a hot engine, I think you meant ultraviolet dye.
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Stuart S (10-09-2016)
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Just buy a rad pressure tester! Mine's a Stant...................
If you have owned Jaguars, motorhomes, boats you gotta have tools, lots!!!
eg. code readers, exhaust analyzer, rad/cap pressure tester, floor jacks, ramps, volt meters, battery load tester, digital camera, big hammers, etc.........
Love tools and Harbor Freight; only a mile away!
Good luck...........and cheers
Adrian
If you have owned Jaguars, motorhomes, boats you gotta have tools, lots!!!
eg. code readers, exhaust analyzer, rad/cap pressure tester, floor jacks, ramps, volt meters, battery load tester, digital camera, big hammers, etc.........
Love tools and Harbor Freight; only a mile away!
Good luck...........and cheers
Adrian
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Thanks all. I have lots of tools, including a 4-post lift to get under the car, but this leak is coming from somewhere deep within. I drove the car to get the pressure up and ran it on the lift, but all I see is the dripping from the bottom of the heat panel next to the exhaust. There's no evidence of moisture in any of the gaps looking down into the engine bay, and I can't see the source looking up. I have a (bad) feeling that it might be a leak near the heater core, which mean the dash will need to be removed. I'm going to Huntington Jaguar to get their diagnosis on Tuesday morning.
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Looks like it's running down the trans tunnel underneath?
The 4.2 has a valley hose under the super charger. The most likely place it show up is a trickle down the trans tunnel and invisible from the top.
The only way to repair it is to replace it and that requires the removal of the SC.
This is not an uncommon failure in the X350 SC vehicles but having said that, the pics from the top appear too far removed and we are getting way ahead of ourselves.
I don't know if you can wiggle a bore scope in there to see it.
Personally, I'd pressure test as fstbmw1 suggests. I doubt it's the heater core as you would almost certainly smell coolant in the cabin and/or the cabin floor would be wet.
I think the clips that hold the insulation to the firewall are hard to see and may allow the firewall insulation to push out just enough to hide a leak at connections but as I mentioned, you'd likely smell the coolant in the car.
If your overflow tank is full or nearly full and you've yet to add coolant, be patient with the pressure test and consider adding the dye.
The 4.2 has a valley hose under the super charger. The most likely place it show up is a trickle down the trans tunnel and invisible from the top.
The only way to repair it is to replace it and that requires the removal of the SC.
This is not an uncommon failure in the X350 SC vehicles but having said that, the pics from the top appear too far removed and we are getting way ahead of ourselves.
I don't know if you can wiggle a bore scope in there to see it.
Personally, I'd pressure test as fstbmw1 suggests. I doubt it's the heater core as you would almost certainly smell coolant in the cabin and/or the cabin floor would be wet.
I think the clips that hold the insulation to the firewall are hard to see and may allow the firewall insulation to push out just enough to hide a leak at connections but as I mentioned, you'd likely smell the coolant in the car.
If your overflow tank is full or nearly full and you've yet to add coolant, be patient with the pressure test and consider adding the dye.
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sorry to hear that. Well even for a DIY like me, this is just an ugly job. All for a lousy $10 hose too. And the sad thing is, it's not a question of if the hose will fail. It's when. From threads I've read, about 11 hours of labor if it's your first go around.
I assume you're going to let the shop handle it, but this is an interesting read. There is a link embedded in the thread with step by step instructions and pics by a certified tech.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...l-pics-109276/
One of many threads. X350 forum has several as well.
You should consider doing the following while the SC is off:
From member "Datsports", "defiantly change the valley coolant pipe (sw - this is what's leaking on your car) and SC oil when your in there . a lot of people change the two knock sensors as well but i don't think thats a must ! check the sc impeller coatings and bearing function as well , also change the brake booster vac pipe o-ring and the evap and PCV pipe o-rings too , now is the time !!"
Also from Certified Tech "NBCat", "Also, if you have any reason to suspect the air conditioning refrigerant may be leaking, recover the refrigerant in the system and change the o-rings on the connector with the expansion valve. The fitting is inaccessible when the supercharger is in situ."
I assume you're going to let the shop handle it, but this is an interesting read. There is a link embedded in the thread with step by step instructions and pics by a certified tech.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...l-pics-109276/
One of many threads. X350 forum has several as well.
You should consider doing the following while the SC is off:
From member "Datsports", "defiantly change the valley coolant pipe (sw - this is what's leaking on your car) and SC oil when your in there . a lot of people change the two knock sensors as well but i don't think thats a must ! check the sc impeller coatings and bearing function as well , also change the brake booster vac pipe o-ring and the evap and PCV pipe o-rings too , now is the time !!"
Also from Certified Tech "NBCat", "Also, if you have any reason to suspect the air conditioning refrigerant may be leaking, recover the refrigerant in the system and change the o-rings on the connector with the expansion valve. The fitting is inaccessible when the supercharger is in situ."
Last edited by Sean W; 10-11-2016 at 03:56 PM.
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NBCat (10-11-2016)
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Thanks Sean. Yeah,I left it for the pros to do. I don't have a problem taking things apart... getting something like that back together and then not running properly scares me. But if this becomes a routine, I will learn! I bought the factory service manual, but it doesn't supply detailed photos. Let you know how the story ends soon. BTW, they mentioned my brake pads low, but that something I plan to tackle. I bought ceramic pads already. Do you know if there are any sensors on the calipers I need to be concerned about?
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Thanks Sean. Yeah,I left it for the pros to do. I don't have a problem taking things apart... getting something like that back together and then not running properly scares me. But if this becomes a routine, I will learn! I bought the factory service manual, but it doesn't supply detailed photos. Let you know how the story ends soon. BTW, they mentioned my brake pads low, but that something I plan to tackle. I bought ceramic pads already. Do you know if there are any sensors on the calipers I need to be concerned about?
Richard can probably weigh in here (Richzak).
Here's a link to changing the pads on the 07 with pics. Aside from my mention above, I see no difference, but I don't know if the standard caliper retraction tool would work as the pistons (6 vs. 4). If you're replacing the rotors, take heed to the final comments with regard to the parking brake as it will require a reset.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...cement-136031/
Also some data on your Alcons:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estion-169753/
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