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Old 03-09-2022, 05:38 PM
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I have a problem with navigating - I found it draining my battery. All the time as if he was working / humming. In addition, the navigation does not want to return the disc, does not respond to the eject button - the disc is inside. For now I have disconnected this dvd reader but the radio / cd control is also gone and the display is not working.
Do you have anything to say / suggestions on this topic?
What is this plugin from the third photo for? It wasn't connected anywhere.





 
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Old 03-09-2022, 06:40 PM
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A couple things. First, the wires in the 3rd pic are used in transport from manufacturer to dealerships so you can ignore it.
I see in your pic you have the disc drive in the locked position. You don't mention it, but please confirm you're trying to eject with the switch in the unlocked position
To gain control of your touchscreen again (without the nav), use a bypass fiber optic loop as seen below:

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Disconnect the orange fiber optic cable from the back of the DVD drive and plug the cable into the loop.
 
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Thanks Sean W for info on loose cable.
Of course, I tried to remove the disc with the open position.
The use of the proposed bypass itself will probably not help, because the device stops humming / consuming electricity only after disconnecting the power supply. What do you think?
 
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In case you didn't know, the nav unit will spin when the car is in convenience mode, i.e. everything wakes up when you unlock the car or turn off the engine but should eventually go to sleep. If you don't lock the car that could take up to 30 minutes.
 
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Originally Posted by sanguszko
Thanks Sean W for info on loose cable.
Of course, I tried to remove the disc with the open position.
The use of the proposed bypass itself will probably not help, because the device stops humming / consuming electricity only after disconnecting the power supply. What do you think?
yes the unit begins to operate as soon as the car enters convenience mode until ignition is turned off. The disc spins non stop during this time. The bypass will work fine as I noted and you would, of course, leave the unit unplugged. You will then get back all other functions except your navigation.
You might also try ejecting after bypassing the unit with a bypass loop. With the fiber optic line disconnected, I suspect the disc will then eject as nothing is trying to communicate with it.
The Nav disc should not spin when the car is off. That would be a drain on the battery. When the car is in convenience mode or running, so is the Navigation disc and would only drain your battery if you were in convenience mode and not running the engine.
 
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Originally Posted by u102768
In case you didn't know, the nav unit will spin when the car is in convenience mode, i.e. everything wakes up when you unlock the car or turn off the engine but should eventually go to sleep. If you don't lock the car that could take up to 30 minutes.
I know that it is, unfortunately, my navi does not fall asleep and discharges the battery.
 
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Old 03-10-2022, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean W
yes the unit begins to operate as soon as the car enters convenience mode until ignition is turned off. The disc spins non stop during this time. The bypass will work fine as I noted and you would, of course, leave the unit unplugged. You will then get back all other functions except your navigation.
You might also try ejecting after bypassing the unit with a bypass loop. With the fiber optic line disconnected, I suspect the disc will then eject as nothing is trying to communicate with it.
The Nav disc should not spin when the car is off. That would be a drain on the battery. When the car is in convenience mode or running, so is the Navigation disc and would only drain your battery if you were in convenience mode and not running the engine.
Sean W So I have to buy this bypass. I do not care about using Navi, I just want it not to discharge the battery. The mere disconnection of the optical fiber did not help - navi still hums and does not give back the disc. I removed the navi because getting to these cables from the back is difficult. What are these pink and blue sockets for? Because if I bypass on optical fiber and unplug the power supply, the two colored ones will probably also be out of order.
 
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I forgot the photo
 
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Old 03-10-2022, 03:50 PM
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Pink is an antenna connection. Prolly GPS if it was even connected but may be used on another model vehicle. The Blue connector is called GVIF connector (Gigabite Video Interface). It connects the Nav unit to the back of the touchscreen and sends the map images to the head unit. Not needed either if you don't need the Nav. Buy the bypass and connect it, leave the unit unplugged or removed as you've done and you should be fine.
 

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Can I exchange it for another one?
Mine is number AW83-10E887-AD and is from March 2013 I can have a cheap AW83-10E887-AB from August 2009.
I will replace it and it will work, will there be a problem?
Will I need to program / assign?
 
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Disregard this post - My brain went to Bluetooth module for some reason. I don't know if it will work, sorry.
 

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Bypass in place, battery is not discharging.
Thanks Sean W
 
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Is there any benefit in using the by-pass if you never plan on using the navigation? I'm thinking of doing this to save wear and tear on the unit electrical drain. As these cars get older moving parts will wear out and replacements will be harder to find.
 
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Originally Posted by u102768
In case you didn't know, the nav unit will spin when the car is in convenience mode, i.e. everything wakes up when you unlock the car or turn off the engine but should eventually go to sleep. If you don't lock the car that could take up to 30 minutes.
New here to the Forum. Was going to post asking about a 'low electrical humming noise' I hear when entering the car. Could this be the Nav waking up? Just picked up the car yesterday ('08 KXR)
 
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Originally Posted by carlucci9
New here to the Forum. Was going to post asking about a 'low electrical humming noise' I hear when entering the car. Could this be the Nav waking up? Just picked up the car yesterday ('08 KXR)
It may be the aspirator, a little sensor behind the dash used for climate control. Look at the dash for some slots or a little vent, maybe one inch square. 25mm square???
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
... used for climate control
Thanks Cee Jay!! So, is the aspirator a normal thing? I don't want to go digging around if all is as it should be...

As far as 'climate control', I've also noted that the external thermometer reading is WAAaaaaayyy off. Is that a dealer reset?
 
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Carlucci, check the codes. They'll most likely point to the external temp sensor. They have a tendency to wear out. Also, not very pricey. Page 2586 of the service manual.
 
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Originally Posted by panthera999
...check the codes.....
Uh, Panthera, thanks...but where does a new go to 'check the codes?"
 
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Originally Posted by carlucci9
Thanks Cee Jay!! So, is the aspirator a normal thing? I don't want to go digging around if all is as it should be...

As far as 'climate control', I've also noted that the external thermometer reading is WAAaaaaayyy off. Is that a dealer reset?
A person can clean the aspirator by using a light blast of canned air. OR, take it out from the rear and clean it gently. When they get dusty they tend to whine a bit. It's a little fan thing on a sensor, so don't break it.
 
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There’s also fans in the head unit than can make noise and the CD disc drive. Most of the time though it’s indeed the aspirator.
 


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