New C8 corvette
#61
I was at my Chevrolet dealer the other day to buy a new truck. They had a C8 getting prepped for a customer pickup in the service department. The salesman let me go in to to view the C8. Even from a distance I could tell the build was inferior and screamed GM. Up close I further checked the quality and fitment. Immediately I noticed the the plastic trim on the door between the window and door looked cheap. I pushed gently on the door panel and the trim piece moved independently away from the door, like it was an after thought not a part of the door and of rigid like plastic and not made of quality resins (or rubbery like). Before getting in line for a 2022 Z06 can anyone else comment on the drive and build quality. Do you get the low American Car build quality feeling or a more refined feeling?
The truck I bought is a monster, Silverado 2500HD, and is work related. It's loaded with steel and plastic, it will move a mountain. I like to have my personal car much more refined and of much higher quality.
The truck I bought is a monster, Silverado 2500HD, and is work related. It's loaded with steel and plastic, it will move a mountain. I like to have my personal car much more refined and of much higher quality.
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#62
Im sure the quality is about the same as any other new sports coupe costing $65-70k that goes
0-60 in 3 sec, 11.2@122 in the 1/4 , does 194mph,can stop from 70 mph in 149 feet and hang on to the skid pad at 1.03 g
Ooops,,
except there are no other 65-70k cars that do all that
You cant have it all,,if you want top quality fit and finish at that performance level in a new car then shell out 2 to 3 times as much an you will get it.
I love my Jag but fit and finish are a joke,,undersized electrical wiring just hanging everywhere,,leather that flops off the door panels,
dashes that shrink and peel, the numerous electrical gremlins, superchargers with bad couplers,timing chain adjusters that need to be replaced,convertible tops that separate at rear window,leaking water pumps,etc,etc all on vehicles with much less than 100k on the odometer
If I had paid the $100k this was when new I would be fuming and looking to sue the pants off Jaguar,,
for $20k I paid , not as big a deal, Im happy.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...-c8-top-speed/
0-60 in 3 sec, 11.2@122 in the 1/4 , does 194mph,can stop from 70 mph in 149 feet and hang on to the skid pad at 1.03 g
Ooops,,
except there are no other 65-70k cars that do all that
You cant have it all,,if you want top quality fit and finish at that performance level in a new car then shell out 2 to 3 times as much an you will get it.
I love my Jag but fit and finish are a joke,,undersized electrical wiring just hanging everywhere,,leather that flops off the door panels,
dashes that shrink and peel, the numerous electrical gremlins, superchargers with bad couplers,timing chain adjusters that need to be replaced,convertible tops that separate at rear window,leaking water pumps,etc,etc all on vehicles with much less than 100k on the odometer
If I had paid the $100k this was when new I would be fuming and looking to sue the pants off Jaguar,,
for $20k I paid , not as big a deal, Im happy.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...-c8-top-speed/
Last edited by htrdlncn; 12-31-2020 at 11:17 AM.
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#63
Man, this really shows the expectations folks have for cars! That the phrase "American Car" is synonymous with bad quality. Having had company cars for the last 20 years, first Taurus and then Malibu's, I have been nothing but impressed with the quality and drivability of those cars. Would I buy one, no only because I can afford better, but they weren't offensive either! Now that I purchased my own ride, a '15 Jeep Grand Cheroke Summit, it has an interior that gets more compliments than my Jag (which I feel is amazing). Pure luxury and quality in both vehicles.
The other part that stymies me is that some folks think that even though a car was $100k originally all the parts will last forever with no issue. What could you possible sue for, a 9 year old car that needs maintenance? Jeez, how long is a car company obligated to provide users a perfect car that has been handed down through other hands???
I am a second owner of my Jag, bought a 2012 in early 2016 with 24k miles and can say it has been a most amazing ownership experience, so little issues with very nice build quality. I am amazed that my Grand Cherokee has delivered an identical experience.
The other part that stymies me is that some folks think that even though a car was $100k originally all the parts will last forever with no issue. What could you possible sue for, a 9 year old car that needs maintenance? Jeez, how long is a car company obligated to provide users a perfect car that has been handed down through other hands???
I am a second owner of my Jag, bought a 2012 in early 2016 with 24k miles and can say it has been a most amazing ownership experience, so little issues with very nice build quality. I am amazed that my Grand Cherokee has delivered an identical experience.
#64
I believe it was AutoWeek or C&D that describes the Geo Tracker/Suzuki Samari as the world's first disposable vehicles. Drive 'em until they break, then leave 'em on the side of the road.
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tampamark (12-31-2020)
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#66
Had a guy follow me into a gas station yesterday and jumped out to look at the car. Asked me all kinds of questions and then asked if I would sell it to him. He said he would give me $100K for it and would do the deal today at his place of business. I told him thanks but no sale. He said $110K and I got in and left. I wonder what the depreciation will be in a few years . Let me think I paid $75K in 2014 for my 2012 XKR conv. with 6600 miles on it . It 's MSRP was $111K . So I sold it in 2019 with 24,000 miles on it for $30K.
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#70
Had a guy follow me into a gas station yesterday and jumped out to look at the car. Asked me all kinds of questions and then asked if I would sell it to him. He said he would give me $100K for it and would do the deal today at his place of business. I told him thanks but no sale. He said $110K and I got in and left. I wonder what the depreciation will be in a few years . Let me think I paid $75K in 2014 for my 2012 XKR conv. with 6600 miles on it . It 's MSRP was $111K . So I sold it in 2019 with 24,000 miles on it for $30K.
Don't worry, once Bowling Green is back up to full production and 40,000 cars a year are dumping into the market you will have plenty of time to match the depreciation of the XKR! Just stating the obvious, not to be a buzzkill, I bet that car is a blast to drive and own and your concern is not "appreciation on paper" or how much it depreciates for that matter.
#71
Since nearly EVERY Corvette model has less depreciation than similar year cars of nearly every model, I'd think the C8 will be identical. While depreciation will happen, I doubt it'll be on par with our poor cars. Doesn't matter build quality or accoutrements, it'll be a more-desired car cuz the word "Corvette".
#72
I got tired of my 03 BMW Z4 after owning it for 17 years, great car, no issues during the 77K miles I put on it.
Always wanted a Vett, looked for something 2016 or newer, had mid $40k to spend, could not find something I liked.
Local Cadillac Dealer that this 2010 XK Convertible taken in on trade for a new Caddy, had $20,550 on it.
Took it for a spin, looked up the CARFax on it, made an offer of $20K even and now I'm the third owner. Figured I have $20K I can put into this car that I feel has a lot more class and looks than a 2016 Vett.
Only had it less than a month before I put it in the barn for the winter, but during that month I put a 1000 miles on it and have to say it's the most fun car I've ever owned in my 60 years of car ownership. and in the short time received more compliments on it than any of my other cars.
Always wanted a Vett, looked for something 2016 or newer, had mid $40k to spend, could not find something I liked.
Local Cadillac Dealer that this 2010 XK Convertible taken in on trade for a new Caddy, had $20,550 on it.
Took it for a spin, looked up the CARFax on it, made an offer of $20K even and now I'm the third owner. Figured I have $20K I can put into this car that I feel has a lot more class and looks than a 2016 Vett.
Only had it less than a month before I put it in the barn for the winter, but during that month I put a 1000 miles on it and have to say it's the most fun car I've ever owned in my 60 years of car ownership. and in the short time received more compliments on it than any of my other cars.
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Cee Jay (01-01-2021)
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#75
Since nearly EVERY Corvette model has less depreciation than similar year cars of nearly every model, I'd think the C8 will be identical. While depreciation will happen, I doubt it'll be on par with our poor cars. Doesn't matter build quality or accoutrements, it'll be a more-desired car cuz the word "Corvette".
Originally from Top 10 Cars That Hold Their Value Best - iSeeCars.com
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SinF (01-01-2021)
#76
I got tired of my 03 BMW Z4 after owning it for 17 years, great car, no issues during the 77K miles I put on it.
Always wanted a Vett, looked for something 2016 or newer, had mid $40k to spend, could not find something I liked.
Local Cadillac Dealer that this 2010 XK Convertible taken in on trade for a new Caddy, had $20,550 on it.
Took it for a spin, looked up the CARFax on it, made an offer of $20K even and now I'm the third owner. Figured I have $20K I can put into this car that I feel has a lot more class and looks than a 2016 Vett.
Only had it less than a month before I put it in the barn for the winter, but during that month I put a 1000 miles on it and have to say it's the most fun car I've ever owned in my 60 years of car ownership. and in the short time received more compliments on it than any of my other cars.
Always wanted a Vett, looked for something 2016 or newer, had mid $40k to spend, could not find something I liked.
Local Cadillac Dealer that this 2010 XK Convertible taken in on trade for a new Caddy, had $20,550 on it.
Took it for a spin, looked up the CARFax on it, made an offer of $20K even and now I'm the third owner. Figured I have $20K I can put into this car that I feel has a lot more class and looks than a 2016 Vett.
Only had it less than a month before I put it in the barn for the winter, but during that month I put a 1000 miles on it and have to say it's the most fun car I've ever owned in my 60 years of car ownership. and in the short time received more compliments on it than any of my other cars.
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DGL (01-02-2021)
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#79
I wouldn't consider a 2016 Vette either. Never liked any of the models after my 63 . Would have never bought this one either until I saw that it was mid engine and all new suspension. In comparison it has just as much leather and plastic as my 2012 XKR . Surprising that the 495hp vs the 510 hp is much more responsive and faster then the Jag. as for the DC transmission it is one of the best I have ever driven . No comparison to the Jag auto-box. Hey we all have opinions and this being an XK form we all have our bias's. Enjoy what you have as you're the only one to please.
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