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Old 10-05-2019, 12:08 PM
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Hello fellow Jag enthusiasts. A few questions and pictures below, if you want to skip my story.

This week, I purchased a 2010 Jaguar XKR from a dealer with 32k miles for $25k here in Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA. 1 owner, no accident history, clean title and Carfax report. I feel like I got a really good deal.

I had a 1972 Mustang Mach 1 from about 2003 until about 2010. I also had a '07 Cobalt SS and a '96 V8 Thunderbird I loved having a sports car and since I had to sell the Mustang, I've been really wanting to get another performance car. Finally I was able to. I had been looking at a Challenger Scat Pack, but Challengers seem to be everywhere you look. I really like being unique.

I've always been an American-car guy - not necessarily religious about it, but that's just what I have gravitated towards. I hadn't considered a Jaguar until browsing car listings. I, of course, always loved Jaguar and European sports cars, but really didn't think I'd ever be able to afford one, or even fit in one or find one that would have the power that I was looking for. This car caught my eye, and being as there were only 12 of them model year 20010-2012 for sale I could find online within 500 miles of me, really fit into my idea of 'unique.' The problem was that most had over 100k miles and some kind of reported damage or accident history or a couple with low miles were too expensive.

Anyhow, I am happy to be here. I am in absolute love with the power and the feeling of this car. I love the look of the car and I think the style is timeless. My only complaint is that I cannot stream Bluetooth using my Android phone.

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I plan on using this vehicle for a weekend vehicle. Most of its time will be spent sleeping in the garage.

1. Do you think I found a good deal?
2. Is there anything I should watch out for, mechanical or otherwise?
3. Any immediate maintenance you recommend? (oil, air filters, etc...) I do not really know the maintenance history, other than what is listed on Carfax.

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Old 10-05-2019, 12:32 PM
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All things even, not a bad price. Not a Killer price either, but you seem to have gotten a nice example. New it was over $100k, so that alone means 'good purchase'.
 
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:33 PM
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Welcome to the Forum! You'll find lots of knowledgeable and helpful members here.

You bought a great car at a good price, as the 2010 XKR came from the factory with everything, including Adaptive Cruise Control. ACC was optional for every year before and after 2010. If you didn't have a Pre-Purchase Inspection done by an authorized Jaguar dealer or qualified independent Jaguar mechanic, you should do so now. Among the known issues with the 5.0L engine is the water pump, and you should make sure that it's not leaking because catastrophic engine damage can result. Other issues are caused by the a weak battery, so most owners who don't drive their toy every day keep it on a battery maintainer, with CTEK being the most popular choice. Always lock your car, even when parked in your garage, to turn off Convenience Mode and minimize battery drain. The leather dashboard is another possible problem, so to avoid shrinkage use a quality thin viscosity leather conditioner often as well as a reflective sun shade behind the windshield whenever you're parked outside, since heat weakens the adhesive.

Learn to use the Advanced Search function and learn everything you can about this great car.

Enjoy the ride!

P.S. I didn't notice the Tulsa JLR dealer tag. I doubt that they did a PPI because the car is too old to qualify to be sold as a CPO Jaguar. I'd still pay them to inspect it using the CPO checklist because it's worth knowing if there are repairs or maintenance in your future. Oil changes using ONLY the proper spec oil are critical, and you should also consider replacing all the other fluids if they haven't already been done since your car is 10 years old.
 

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Originally Posted by Stuart S
Welcome to the Forum! You'll find lots of knowledgeable and helpful members here.

Among the known issues with the 5.0L engine is the water pump, and you should make sure that it's not leaking because catastrophic engine damage can result.
Thanks for the welcome.

It is interesting you do that. After a drive last night, the XKR was dripping liquid onto the ground. the fluid was odorless, tasteless and not oily. Guessing it was just water dripping from the A/C condenser. It also evaporated pretty quickly and din't leave a stain. So, I don't think it was anything to worry about. But, I will keep an eye out. Just had to have the water pump replaced on my 2011 Expedition a few months back so I am a bit sensitive to leaks.
 
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:46 PM
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Yep, some people have had a problem with the 10-11 (and newer also) water pumps. My 2010; original water pump and zero noise and zero leaks at 69,000 miles.
Guess it's a crap shoot as to bad or not.
 
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:50 PM
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The water pump early detection system is your nose. Antifreeze has a distinctive smell, and you can't miss it if you're standing in front of your car. That's how I knew my XJ's water pump was leaking. No DTC codes, no warning light.
 
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:35 AM
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Along with what has been listed already about changing all fluids, good chance that you will have some suspension bushings wearing out and if your an early 2010 car like myself you need to address the duckbill as well... I think you got a great price on car... Enjoy!!!
 
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:38 AM
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Along with what has been listed already about changing all fluids, good chance that you will have some suspension bushings wearing out and if your an early 2010 car like myself you need to address the duckbill as well... I think you got a great price on car... Enjoy!!!
Bushings going out at 32k miles? That seems a bit soon.
 
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Originally Posted by KrazyIvanUSA
Bushings going out at 32k miles? That seems a bit soon.
It's not so much the Mileage as it is the Age. Just like old tires, old bushings get old and rot/crack/leak/fall apart.
 
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
... get old and rot/crack/leak/fall apart.
That's a page out of the Owner's Handbook for Homo Sapiens!
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
It's not so much the Mileage as it is the Age. Just like old tires, old bushings get old and rot/crack/leak/fall apart.
Age and perhaps environment too. Mileage definitely not. Replaced original suspension links after 4 years from new in 2012 and then again in 2017 at which point I switched to polyurethane track bushes which should last for many, many years. Had the same problem with the 2005 Super V8, also after about 4 years in, bushes needed replacing before I sold it around 2013. All other Jags I've had on 2 year lease.
 
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I'd do a brake fluid,diff, and radiator fluid flush. Go through all the suspension bushing. Water pumps seem to be the biggest issue on the XKR's and not too big a deal to swap out when needed.

Car looks sharp.
 
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Originally Posted by KrazyIvanUSA
Bushings going out at 32k miles? That seems a bit soon.
I guess it depends on driving style, environment it lives in, off-roading or not etc.
I had the front wheels of the XK yesterday and got a good look at the bushings. ~43k miles, 9+ years old. All looked pretty good. The rears I looked at a few months ago. Same condition. Still rides like a dream.
I figure at this rate, I'll get another 2 years before I need to think about doing anything
 
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Congrats on the purchase! your reasons for buying were very similar to mine and I love the car. Did you buy your XKR from Rupy? I purchased mine from the same dealership and was happy with the deal and the service. I was advised that all the "certified" processes were done on the car prior to the sale. They also switched the wheels to the original 20s without any prompting. I did experience a battery issue on mine. While the battery was only 18 months old, the battery load was bad. I replaced it with a DieHard and use a Noco batter charger. I will now implement the locking the car nightly after reading the above tips. I'm now moving onto upgrades including a Mina exhaust, pulley upgrade, K&N filters, and the Old Jag bluetooth upgrade.
 
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Old 10-07-2019, 08:27 PM
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K&N Filters?

The OEM engine air filter on my 1960 Corvette was foam bathed lightly in oil, similar to today's K&N filter. When I swapped out the original 283/230HP engine in 1965 for a 1965 327/365HP crate engine (WOOHOO!!!) the OEM filter was a paper element. Oiled foam is ancient technology. I learned my lesson after falling for K&N's marketing hype and buying 2 for my 1993 600SL. Unless you race your car, K&N filters are a waste of money IMHO, as minimal performance gains if any occurred above 5,000 RPMs. For our XKRs a matched set of OEM or other high quality paper filters works best and costs less. If the K&N oiled foam method was better technology, manufacturers would have continued to use it after the '60s.

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Thanks for the viewpoint. The KNs are already bought and installed. I have used them on a 95 Impala SS, 98 Vette C5 with cold air, and 03 Ford Lightning with no issues. BTW, K&N material is gauze, not foam.
 

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Thanks for the update. When I last bought them for my 1993 600SL (probably around 1998) they were foam, and virtually identical to the OEM Chevrolet filter in my 1960 Corvette. My conclusion still stands. If an oiled filter was better, why aren't they used today by new car manufacturers?
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
..................... If an oiled filter was better, why aren't they used today by new car manufacturers?
Cost and licensing.
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
If an oiled filter was better, why aren't they used today by new car manufacturers?
Or in any application, there are so many critical applications where improving the flow or filtration can dramatically increase revenue.

To use a ball of cotton soaked in oil makes as much sense today as using sheepskin condoms.

Especially in an XK where the filters are not easy to get to for regular cleaning of souring oil.

p.s. how often should you change oil in air filters.
 
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You got a great deal imo because theyre hard to find nice coupes, a lot more verts. Low miles and good price. I just did a prepurchase inspection for a customer at the house sunday on a 2010 na xk. 59k miles for $18k. Faded spider webbed paint on top, need tires, rear pads and rotors, suspension has broken bushings, coolant stain under intake, trashed steering wheel leather, smells like mildew inside but i pulled the carpet for a ac drain blockage and its dry sooo... Also needs a direct pressure sensing valve in the compressor as no ac at idle. I told him i would buy a nicer well maintained car for more $$$ and he would be alot further ahead than buyer a cheaper car but spending more on the backend.
I had a 71 mach1 with a 429cj. Lots of fun, really fast and underated.
You can modify yours if you get the itch and pick a good bit more hp
 
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