New to Jaguar. Picked up XKR-S. Mistake?
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Look into 911, I think it would have enough trunk space for you while remaining a sports car. One of the few on the market that does.
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F-type is a sports car, so things like trunk space, cabin space, second row seats are all sacrificed. XKR-S is an upper trim of a GT car, while very capable it is not a sports car.
Look into 911, I think it would have enough trunk space for you while remaining a sports car. One of the few on the market that does.
Look into 911, I think it would have enough trunk space for you while remaining a sports car. One of the few on the market that does.
Trust me, I agonized over sports cars or GT. Although I must admit, I was looking at Aston Martins (DBS, V8 Vantage) and Maseratis (GranTurismo MC) for GT, as well as C8 Corvette, GTR etc and hadn't thought about any XK let along the XKR-S.
Like I said, it was an impulsive buy based on an immediate opportunity and timing (who would pass up a XKR-S if you could buy it). The more I drive it, the more I like it. Just like any relationship it takes time. We'll see what happens in the next week.
Anyway, I hope my stay with the Jag forums lasts a while.
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Thanks for the pointers. Having my local dealer give it a once over tomorrow. I heard timing chain issues can be lethal, so I'd rather get ahead of that if at all possible.
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@StiggyMac, pay close attention to engine temperature whilst driving. DO NOT rely on the instrument cluster to indicate coolant temperature. Connect to the vehicle PCM via the OBD port with a Bluetooth adapter and a smart phone having the Torque app. At any point if the 'Coolant Level Low' warning appears on the instrument cluster, stop the engine immediately and find the source of the coolant loss. The coolant outlet pipe under the supercharger and the rear heater pipe are plastic and can only withstand a finite number of cold to hot to cold cycles prior to failing.
Monitor engine oil level weekly at a minimum and be sure to use oil meeting JLR specification.
Monitor engine oil level weekly at a minimum and be sure to use oil meeting JLR specification.
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Yes, it's a pretty quick GT car. Did I have high expectations of it? Maybe. Has it met most of those expectations, yes.
Day two of ownership and I'm enjoying it.
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@StiggyMac, pay close attention to engine temperature whilst driving. DO NOT rely on the instrument cluster to indicate coolant temperature. Connect to the vehicle PCM via the OBD port with a Bluetooth adapter and a smart phone having the Torque app. At any point if the 'Coolant Level Low' warning appears on the instrument cluster, stop the engine immediately and find the source of the coolant loss. The coolant outlet pipe under the supercharger and the rear heater pipe are plastic and can only withstand a finite number of cold to hot to cold cycles prior to failing.
Monitor engine oil level weekly at a minimum and be sure to use oil meeting JLR specification.
Monitor engine oil level weekly at a minimum and be sure to use oil meeting JLR specification.
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Thanks for the tips. I was wondering why those gauges didn't exist anywhere on the dash. Yikes, plastic coolant pipe in the V? Is there an alloy replacement for that part? My Porsche Cayenne S had the same problem after 110k with that type of coolant pipe design. Replaced plastic with alloy and it's been great since.
Due to the age and mileage on the vehicle, I also suggest you have the gearbox serviced. The ZF 6HP26/28 should be serviced with a new pan/filter and fresh fluid every 5 years or 100,000 km/60,000 miles.
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When time permits, I intend to have replacement parts fabricated with aluminium to eliminate those two possible failure points on the AJ133 and AJ133SC.
Due to the age and mileage on the vehicle, I also suggest you have the gearbox serviced. The ZF 6HP26/28 should be serviced with a new pan/filter and fresh fluid every 5 years or 100,000 km/60,000 miles.
Due to the age and mileage on the vehicle, I also suggest you have the gearbox serviced. The ZF 6HP26/28 should be serviced with a new pan/filter and fresh fluid every 5 years or 100,000 km/60,000 miles.
I've always used Redline water wetter in coolant to good results. Redline for gear lube has been good too over my experiences with OEM recommendations.
Anything else to know about the ZF unit? Clutches on the e-Diff? Half shafts?
I've wrenched on most of my cars and it's most of the problems tend to be owner induced. lol However I do learn what areas to look for once I get time on the cars.
Thanks again for your pointers.
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I personally have only used the ZF Lifeguard fluid, however some on these forums use other fluids matching Ford specifications (Mercon V).
There is no need for any additives except some injector cleaner such as Techron periodically.
You can use the search function for this forum to find other threads discussing differentials and other areas.
There is no need for any additives except some injector cleaner such as Techron periodically.
You can use the search function for this forum to find other threads discussing differentials and other areas.
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Stiggymac,
You should thank heaven that you didn't buy a GTR. I went for a ride in a friend's car a few weeks ago for the first time. We took about a 40 mile ride to pick up some parts for both of our Panteras from a vendor in Orange County. After we got there, I told him that except for the ride home, I would never ride in that car again. Outside of its prodigious performance parameters, it is the worst piece of junk I have ever had the displeasure of riding in. It is noisy (and not in a good engine or exhaust way), it is very rough riding, and when it shift gears, it feels like the entire transmission is falling out, it's so clunky. My 180,000 mile tuned and pulley XKR may be a bit slower, but you couldn't give me a GTR for free and make me drive it. Your XKR-S is comfortable, quick, and embodies the definition of a high performance GT automobile better than just about anything from any car maker including Aston Martin and Maserati. I'm sure with enough time behind the wheel you'll come to appreciate how much car you got for "next to nothing."
You should thank heaven that you didn't buy a GTR. I went for a ride in a friend's car a few weeks ago for the first time. We took about a 40 mile ride to pick up some parts for both of our Panteras from a vendor in Orange County. After we got there, I told him that except for the ride home, I would never ride in that car again. Outside of its prodigious performance parameters, it is the worst piece of junk I have ever had the displeasure of riding in. It is noisy (and not in a good engine or exhaust way), it is very rough riding, and when it shift gears, it feels like the entire transmission is falling out, it's so clunky. My 180,000 mile tuned and pulley XKR may be a bit slower, but you couldn't give me a GTR for free and make me drive it. Your XKR-S is comfortable, quick, and embodies the definition of a high performance GT automobile better than just about anything from any car maker including Aston Martin and Maserati. I'm sure with enough time behind the wheel you'll come to appreciate how much car you got for "next to nothing."
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Perhaps I’m not being as judicious with the loud pedal. Will try harder next time and lay some elevens. 👍🏼
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The car has more than enough umph you won't be disappointed from the performance. The Aston Vantage V8 is not as fast as the XKR-S and the DB cost way more for not much more power, and the repair bills will soak you should something break. Go for a couple of long drives with your BFF, picnic basket, on a twisty road in the mountains on a nice fall day and you won't think about trading this in. As stated by others get the waterpump done and the timing chains, do at the same time and save some money. Also the plastic coolant pipe near the thermostat wears too. Good luck and happy motoring. :-)
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The performance was somewhat muted compared to the F Type R. Was looking for that throw the driver into the backseat feeling, however from a roll from 20-70mph in 2nd it was underwhelming in comparison. 542 bhp doesn't feel like enough.
My tuned E92 335i 6spd with about 420 rwhp felt immensely fast, but being smaller and lighter is a very big factor in that.
Now it is smoother than the F Type R and felt softer while still accurate and pointy.
Exhaust was louder in F Type R, but that was also a droptop. lol
My tuned E92 335i 6spd with about 420 rwhp felt immensely fast, but being smaller and lighter is a very big factor in that.
Now it is smoother than the F Type R and felt softer while still accurate and pointy.
Exhaust was louder in F Type R, but that was also a droptop. lol
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F-type is a sports car, so things like trunk space, cabin space, second row seats are all sacrificed. XKR-S is an upper trim of a GT car, while very capable it is not a sports car.
Look into 911, I think it would have enough trunk space for you while remaining a sports car. One of the few on the market that does.
Look into 911, I think it would have enough trunk space for you while remaining a sports car. One of the few on the market that does.
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