New Oil choices for 5.0
#41
Q&C
The Jag spec for 0W-20 is, STJLR.51.5122. That is not shown on post #32. On the back, I see that the old specs are there for 5W-30 Ravenol. I don't know the JLR spec shown as of STJLR.03.1.5004.
So if one wants 0W-20, this product does not seem to meet the Jag spec.
Please enlighten me!
OK, the info/data sheet DOES inform that it meets STJLR.51.5122 I like pictures, so I looked at your picture, rather than reading the data sheet.
My bad.
~wrair
The Jag spec for 0W-20 is, STJLR.51.5122. That is not shown on post #32. On the back, I see that the old specs are there for 5W-30 Ravenol. I don't know the JLR spec shown as of STJLR.03.1.5004.
So if one wants 0W-20, this product does not seem to meet the Jag spec.
Please enlighten me!
OK, the info/data sheet DOES inform that it meets STJLR.51.5122 I like pictures, so I looked at your picture, rather than reading the data sheet.
My bad.
~wrair
Last edited by wrair; 08-01-2018 at 04:24 PM. Reason: correct the information
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Queen and Country (08-01-2018)
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#44
Guys,
This is simpler than bingo.
All grades meets All specs.
See the old spec calls for 5-20w oil- which the Ravenol 5-20w meets
The new spec calls for 0-20w oil- which the Ravenol 0-20w meets.
The grade is the spec in essence
Its error proof.
I am sure someone will ask will the 0-20w meet the old spec-no because the old spec does not call for that grade of oil.
This is simpler than bingo.
All grades meets All specs.
See the old spec calls for 5-20w oil- which the Ravenol 5-20w meets
The new spec calls for 0-20w oil- which the Ravenol 0-20w meets.
The grade is the spec in essence
Its error proof.
I am sure someone will ask will the 0-20w meet the old spec-no because the old spec does not call for that grade of oil.
#45
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Queen and Country (08-02-2018)
#46
Jaguar has go my trust
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#49
Still competitive but not as cheap as you can find online if you're happy doing it yourself.
I checked the service invoice from when I had the last service done on the Range Rover 5.0S/C I have (same engine obvs), they had used the 0W20 oil. So far I'd stuck to the 5W20 when doing either the RR or the XKR myself. In future I'll probably change to the 0W20 if I can find it easily, or fall back on the 5W20.
So long as it's right 'type' of oil I can't see either being a big issue.
ETA: Thanks for the heads up on this fixed price servicing... I need to get mine in somewhere to get the booked stamped, and this looks as cheap as any independents I'm likely to find anywhere! Cheers.
ETA2: Although I'm not sure why they charged for a drain plug seeing as these are designed to be sucked dry of oil. But that's a whole other argument.
Last edited by Piersman; 08-02-2018 at 07:30 AM.
#51
So its apparently a proper Jaguar service facility. Its little things like this that makes good service a right bargain.
#52
What are you guys paying if you go to your local Jaguar dealer for a oil change? Last year I paid over $167+ but had a $50 Coupon. Now another Jag dealer want $225+ for the same oil change. I have 1 1/2 years left on an extended warranty I just want to keep it in place. For those few that take it to the dealer what should be the most reasonable price? Thanks all.
#53
What are you guys paying if you go to your local Jaguar dealer for a oil change? Last year I paid over $167+ but had a $50 Coupon. Now another Jag dealer want $225+ for the same oil change. I have 1 1/2 years left on an extended warranty I just want to keep it in place. For those few that take it to the dealer what should be the most reasonable price? Thanks all.
As an FYI my kids 2015 Audi A4 oil change cost $160 at the dealer. This is a recommended 10,000 oil change. Also 5 quarts of Castrol 5W-40 and filter.
#54
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#55
here is information that is not just marketing
https://studfiles.net/preview/1938903/
https://studfiles.net/preview/1938903/
Gasoline Direct Injection – Although not specifically mentioned in the latest GF-5 Needs Statement, nearly all automakers currently have at least one vehicle using GDI engine technology, and CAR estimates that the market penetration of GDI engines will increase from 12% of new vehicles sold in 2011 to nearly 20% in 20169, since GDI can provide 5-10% better fuel economy (10-15% better with turbocharging), and better driving performance, than conventional gasoline engines. GDI engines have shown an increased level of oil contamination by soot, resulting in engine durability and performance issues such as increased timing chain wear and elongation. This issue was raised by JAMA (Japanese Automobile Manufacturers Association) late in the development of ILSAC GF-4, resulting in the adoption of a minimum phosphorus limit (0.06%) for GF-4. It was expected that a Valve Chain Wear test would be developed for GF-5 to address this concern.
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#56
It's crazy how the dealer threatens the customer about losing warranty if all oil changes are not done regularly......In the mean time... I've been denied all my 2 claims for water pumps and my oil changes have been done after 300-500 miles just to keep the sh...ty warranty! lol Go Figure.
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sparky fuze (08-03-2018)
#57
It's crazy how the dealer threatens the customer about losing warranty if all oil changes are not done regularly......In the mean time... I've been denied all my 2 claims for water pumps and my oil changes have been done after 300-500 miles just to keep the sh...ty warranty! lol Go Figure.
#58
Boca if it ain't broke they will not replace it. If it's a TSB then they would replace it. If your doctor told you that people with your health history would need a heart transplant sometime in the future. Would you want it replaced now because it may fail in the future. The dealer is just using the words that Jaguar tells them and Jaguar doesn't recognize this as a problem but maybe just a consumable. Then again the warranty company says if it breaks they will pay to fix it. Seems like you need to get past this.
#59
Edit: Huh, I thought this was the Water Pump thread when I posted.
Last edited by Cee Jay; 08-03-2018 at 11:34 AM.
#60
Boca, what jagtoes said is spot on.
If you have a water pump that works and works well- it may be infinitely better than the new one you wish to get
Sometimes it comes down to luck of the draw, and fear drawing a bad straw if asked to roll the dice again.
Another concern that you should have; your car/engine was put together in a proper factory with precision tools and folks who only work on this engine. That is not what you will get at a dealer replacing a water pump.
If you have a water pump that works and works well- it may be infinitely better than the new one you wish to get
Sometimes it comes down to luck of the draw, and fear drawing a bad straw if asked to roll the dice again.
Another concern that you should have; your car/engine was put together in a proper factory with precision tools and folks who only work on this engine. That is not what you will get at a dealer replacing a water pump.