Next Gen XJ Returns to Roots
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Well, after just having read the headline, I was skeptical, since I really like the new XJ (after being shocked first).
But the idea of two production lines makes sense to me.
The big advantage of Jaguar is, that they can sell this as heritage: the re-birth of the Daimler.
That way that can easily sell it for a higher price than the "regular" XJ, which would be fine with the main target markets.
But the idea of two production lines makes sense to me.
The big advantage of Jaguar is, that they can sell this as heritage: the re-birth of the Daimler.
That way that can easily sell it for a higher price than the "regular" XJ, which would be fine with the main target markets.
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Jaguar better not make a new XJ model in 2016. That would give only 5 years of life to the present design. Far too short. Such short refresh cycle would alienate a lot of present owners.
Maybe a good thing that I decided to do a 3 years lease on my 2012 XJL, instead of buying. If the news stands, the values of my 2012 will fall through the floor when the new model shows up. Depreciation is already bad enough for the Jags...
Albert
Maybe a good thing that I decided to do a 3 years lease on my 2012 XJL, instead of buying. If the news stands, the values of my 2012 will fall through the floor when the new model shows up. Depreciation is already bad enough for the Jags...
Albert
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I think the new XJ looks much better in person, and only looks good in black. But in black, i think it's stunning. It has a real presence about it. Much more than my old X350. Also, the interior is probably one of the most attractive interiors I've ever seen. A very nice place to be! Plus it drives much better.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a 3-box sedan. That was probably my favorite thing about the X350. I look forward to seeing the current XJ facelifted!
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a 3-box sedan. That was probably my favorite thing about the X350. I look forward to seeing the current XJ facelifted!
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Economic Catastrophe? I don't see how that could be the case. It's working out pretty well for Mercedes Benz. They have the E Class and the CLS! I think its what they should have done in the beginning. They should have put the current fastback XJ in between the XF and a higher end, traditional, 3 box XJ.
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having 2 designs for the XJ is bad business procedure. its bad enough the current XJ has way too many variations, 2 completely separate models is going to be an economic catastrophe. its going to cost way too much to develop 2 different cars that are in the same exact league
I think it will work out well for Jaguar. As long as they don't start putting out SUV models, I'll be happy.
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Concerning the new XJ model, I had an Ultimate Black '11 XJ SC with London Tan interior and it was magnificent. Turned more heads than any sedan I've ever owned and it was a rocket ship. IMHO it was time for a change despite the protests from old school Jag owners (I also owned a couple of those in the past) because the old body style was not selling well. This is the new face of Jaguar with the family resemblance with the XF and F type and I doubt it will be going anywhere anytime soon. Also hard to believe that Jaguar would use their resources to put out a second XJ with a retro body style--just doesn't make economic sense for what will probably be a small market.
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Might go the way of the Maybach though. That was costly for MB. Jaguar needs to make cars that will sell if they want to survive.
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Does it make economic sense for BMW to have a 5 series and a 6 series sedan or for Mercedes to have an E Class and the CLS? YES, it does! Jaguar basically has 4 models: XF, F, XK and XJ. There is room for another body style. IMO, the new face of Jaguar could use some tweaks as far as the XJ goes! This is how I want my XJ to look!
Can you honestly say that if Jaguar put out a version of the XJ w/o fast back that it would not sell? It doesn't take a whole lot of resources to reshape some C-pillars and a decklid.
Can you honestly say that if Jaguar put out a version of the XJ w/o fast back that it would not sell? It doesn't take a whole lot of resources to reshape some C-pillars and a decklid.
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Retro has been successful for a lot of car companies. It probably started with Chrysler's PT Cruiser (say what you will, but it sold well). So well in fact that Chevrolet followed with the HHR in the same class. Volkswagen has done well with the new Beetle. Now they have the new, new Beetle which is even more faithful to the original styling. Fiat has the new 500. Ford's Mustang is retro styled. Chevrolet's Camaro is retro inspired. And Dodge virtually photocopied the new Challenger. I thought the S-type was kind of retro, harking back to the MKII Saloon.
I would welcome a retro styled XJ. To me, its OK if Toyota, Honda, etc. all want to make 4-door sedans that all look very much alike. They're going after building the most fuel-efficient transportation appliances for the masses and of course, when you let fuel-efficiency dictate design, you get sameness as they are all just minor facelifts on the one best aerodynamic profile. But if you have to quibble over a few mpg's on the highway, then you should probably not be buying a super high end luxury car in the first place.
I would welcome a retro styled XJ. To me, its OK if Toyota, Honda, etc. all want to make 4-door sedans that all look very much alike. They're going after building the most fuel-efficient transportation appliances for the masses and of course, when you let fuel-efficiency dictate design, you get sameness as they are all just minor facelifts on the one best aerodynamic profile. But if you have to quibble over a few mpg's on the highway, then you should probably not be buying a super high end luxury car in the first place.
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