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Cabrio Bob 09-03-2020 10:45 AM

2nd round?
 
Lately some forum users asked if there will be a 2nd round.

First I want to finish this round successfully, and then I will see.
If there will be a 2nd round, this means that some DIY items I will not release to the public till that 2nd round is finished.
Also will the price go up, since I will source parts not from China any more. Takes too long to arrive.

However ... 1 person may be lucky, I'm able to create one more device, I only have to order an extra ESP32.
The first person who asked is Rahtok, so if he responds here and he still wants it, the 15th device is his. (for the price of the 1st round).

P.s. anyone who can check the XK 5.0 model on used protocol? (see post )

Updated [final final] list:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...ddf1ee70ac.png


Rahtok 09-03-2020 11:14 AM

I'm in! :D

Cabrio Bob 09-03-2020 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Rahtok (Post 2284375)
I'm in! :D

Cool. Could you fill me in on the list mentioned above (the question marks)

Rahtok 09-03-2020 02:16 PM

All of the parts, Farenheit & Miles.

Please / Thank you

Cabrio Bob 09-03-2020 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Rahtok (Post 2284462)
All of the parts, Farenheit & Miles.

Please / Thank you

Thanks.
List is updated in post #161.

Cabrio Bob 09-08-2020 11:39 AM

first 3 devices can be shipped out
 
Tomorrow (Sept 09), the first 3 can be shipped out.
I'll send the top 3 people on the list a private message and paypal request.

Of most people I didn't receive yet:
- name + shipping address.
- paypal email address
- type of shipment (I prefer at least with tracking, check post )
- type of engine you have (if 5.0, would you like the (beta) extended readout programmed? )

Shipment costs to the UK is €13.00
Shipment costs to the US and Canada is €29.30 (including tracking)

For US and Canada destinations I need additional data (please specify):
- type of article being shipped (gift, documents, trade sample or other)
- goods description ("jaguar ashtray" or "vehicle ashtray" or "car parts" or .....)
- value of the goods (probably needed for import tax, you decide yourself)

The total price arises from the following (still the same as post ) :
- electronics €18.00
- 3D print €32.00
- ELM327 adapter €26.00 (not for Sam)
- USB car charger and USB cable €6.50
- shipping costs

MarkyUK, you own a 5.0 model. I could program yours with the extended data readout, or not.
The extended data readout is not tested (you'll be the "guinea pig"). If it doesn't work it can be re-flashed to "4.2 spec".
Could you let me know your choice?
This also applies to others with a 5.0 model XK(R).


All 3D prints are or are going to be black painted.
Some results are acceptable,
some are very good,
none are excellent,
and 3 pieces I have to re-paint.

MarkyUK 09-08-2020 12:18 PM

Bob, happy to trial the 'extended data readout' so send it with that, message me your email address and I'll paypal you the €89 (if my math is right) ASAP

Cabrio Bob 09-08-2020 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2286381)
Bob, happy to trial the 'extended data readout' so send it with that, message me your email address and I'll paypal you the €89 (if my math is right) ASAP

your math is almost but not quite correct :-)

barnsie 09-08-2020 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2286368)
Tomorrow (Sept 09), the first 3 can be shipped out.
I'll send the top 3 people on the list a private message and paypal request.

Woohoo!! :icon_banana::icon_dance-tap::icon_toast:




MarkyUK 09-08-2020 12:48 PM

I am sooooooo excited!!

Christmas comes early!!

Barnsie, the race is on son! :D

barnsie 09-08-2020 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2286395)
I am sooooooo excited!!

Christmas comes early!!

Barnsie, the race is on son! :D

:)

I know I will have mine installed and working (with photos) before you. I just know it :)

LOL. First to post photo of the device in place is the winner! :)

barnsie 09-08-2020 12:53 PM

How old are we? Hahaha :) :)

MarkyUK 09-08-2020 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by barnsie (Post 2286398)
:)

I know I will have mine installed and working (with photos) before you. I just know it :)

LOL. First to post photo of the device in place is the winner! :)

When Bob advises he's shipped I'll be 'working from home' for the following 3 days, so unlikely you'll beat me :D
Plus mine has additional functionality only found on the 5.0 :icon_headbang:

I prefer 'Fold'

barnsie 09-09-2020 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2286425)
When Bob advises he's shipped I'll be 'working from home' for the following 3 days, so unlikely you'll beat me :D
Plus mine has additional functionality only found on the 5.0 :icon_headbang:

I prefer 'Fold'

NFW Jose! :) I have 'worked from home' for the past 12 years, so that balances out. Within one minute, I repeat, for the avoidance of doubt, within one minute of Bob's wonderful component arriving, it will be in my car and operational, and within two minutes a photo will be posted in this thread. First to post image wins.

Game on!

LOL :)

Cabrio Bob 09-09-2020 08:49 AM

I would like to refer to post #166 for anyone who's on the list and didn't private message me yet.

2 devices are shipped out today, an email with tracking info should have been sent.
JackJohn didn't respond yet.

MarkyUK 09-09-2020 09:43 AM

Yep got the tracking info Bob, I also got Barnsie's confirmation so, with his address I can drive over to his and superglue all of his his house and car locks...mwahaha! :D

Cabrio Bob 09-09-2020 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2286714)
Yep got the tracking info Bob, I also got Barnsie's confirmation

That wasn't supposed to happen. That post office girl must have done something wrong.
Hopefully Barnsie got his confirmation.

barnsie 09-09-2020 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2286748)
That wasn't supposed to happen. That post office girl must have done something wrong.
Hopefully Barnsie got his confirmation.

No confirmation received here Bob. Can you just send the tracking number so I can follow its progress? Thx.

MarkyUK 09-09-2020 11:49 AM

I've sent via PM :)

Cabrio Bob 09-09-2020 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2286756)
I've sent via PM :)

+1

barnsie 09-09-2020 01:58 PM

Thanks guys. :icon_toast:

Cabrio Bob 09-10-2020 12:17 AM

Today I received money from an USA resident, and Paypal accounted a fee of €6.39 from me.
If this happens to all USA people on the list, I will not break even.
Maybe when you send me money instead of me requesting, this fee does not exist. (be sure to select euro's as currency)
Let's try that with the next shipment.

Due to that, from post #166 I have to add:
- electronics €18.00
- 3D print €32.00
- ELM327 adapter €26.00 (not for Sam)
- USB car charger and USB cable €6.50
- shipping costs
- paypal fee €6.39 (USA and possibly Canada)

Of some people I didn't receive yet:
- name + shipping address.
- paypal email address
- type of shipment (I prefer at least with tracking, check post )
- type of engine you have (if 5.0, would you like the (beta) extended readout programmed? )

For US and Canada destinations I need additional data (please specify):
- type of article being shipped (gift, documents, trade sample, trade goods, or return goods) < edited
- goods description ("jaguar ashtray" or "vehicle ashtray" or "car parts" or .....)
- value of the goods (probably needed for import tax, you decide yourself)

If you request the 5.0 model software installed, please specify the units:
- BAR or PSI
- Liter or Gallon
- Centimeters or Inch

barnsie 09-10-2020 05:17 AM

^^^^

Bob - they need to use PayPal 'Friends & Family' / 'PayPal Gift'. If they use the regular 'commercial' PayPal, then PP applies the charge. For F&F there is no charge. That is why you didn't get the charge when I sent the funds.

For anyone not familiar with this, when you go to 'Send Money', there is an option to use PP Gift. Select that option and PP waives its fees.


kj07xk 09-10-2020 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by barnsie (Post 2287000)
^^^^

Bob - they need to use PayPal 'Friends & Family' / 'PayPal Gift'. If they use the regular 'commercial' PayPal, then PP applies the charge. For F&F there is no charge. That is why you didn't get the charge when I sent the funds.

For anyone not familiar with this, when you go to 'Send Money', there is an option to use PP Gift. Select that option and PP waives its fees.

Yup, that’s the way to do it. Good thing you didn’t ask for everyone to pay at the same time.
What you lose as the buyer/sender, when you send by F&F, is the ability to file a claim with PP if you didn’t get your goods, as the fee charged to the business/receiver is ‘insurance’ that PP uses to reimburse the sender if PP can’t recover the funds from the receiver.
So only use F&F with a trusted source (a lesson learned the hard way), but I think we can trust Cabrio Bob, right? He’s already shipping the goods.

barnsie, did you get a PP invoice from Bob? I wasn’t sure if you get the F&F option if you’re responding to an invoice?

barnsie 09-10-2020 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by kj07xk (Post 2287012)
Yup, that’s the way to do it. Good thing you didn’t ask for everyone to pay at the same time.
What you lose as the buyer/sender, when you send by F&F, is the ability to file a claim with PP if you didn’t get your goods, as the fee charged to the business/receiver is ‘insurance’ that PP uses to reimburse the sender if PP can’t recover the funds from the receiver.
So only use F&F with a trusted source (a lesson learned the hard way), but I think we can trust Cabrio Bob, right? He’s already shipping the goods.

barnsie, did you get a PP invoice from Bob? I wasn’t sure if you get the F&F option if you’re responding to an invoice?

Hi - yes, I got a request for payment from Bob (not an 'invoice' as such) and I still had the option to use PP F&F.

You are right that when using F&F you lose your rights to file a claim and lose all dispute resolution support, so never use it unless you know and trust the payee. In this case, we know we can all trust Bob so there is no problem.

TBH, I am of the view that Bob is being incredibly generous in providing these units at cost and, personally, I feel he is more than entitled to make a profit on them. After all, 'at cost' does NOT include any charge for Bob's time. If that were factored in, the units would cost double, or even more. So it might just be a neat solution to the PP fee issue if Bob just increases the price a little to cover it. I know the Dutch and know they have a very well developed sense of 'fair play' so Bob may not want to do this simply because he has already dispatched two units and may not want some recipients to have different 'terms'. Either way, it's Bob's decision in the end, but I am sure I speak for all of us when I say we would not want him to be out of pocket on this.

Cabrio Bob 09-10-2020 07:24 AM

I think paypal between USA <> EU there's always a fee involved, no matter what.
If this fee is on my account, I'm going to lose on it, which wasn't my plan.

p.s. when the package arrives, unpack it carefully. I hope the paint will be dry enough not to stick to the packaging plastic.
p.s.2 : the USB fit will be tight, and probably will be best placed 30° pointing towards the left front.
you can;t turn the usb charger any further than that due to a ridge inside the cig lighter.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...dbe068478f.png

Cabrio Bob 09-10-2020 07:42 AM

The below form I have to fill in for customs declaration.
at "What are you going to send?" I have to make a choice ("other" is not one of them as earlier stated)
at "Value €" the value can't be 0 or empty.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...29cc73ec33.png

Cabrio Bob 09-10-2020 09:24 AM

If all 5.0 model owners specify PSI, Gallon and Inches, I'm able to construct an universal firmware update "app" ...
makes life easier for me but also for you.

In this PDF there's a table of what each model is able to display (5.0 is Beta till confirmed by MarkyUK)

Tolly 09-10-2020 12:09 PM

Universal 5.0 Litre Setting
 
If making the 5.0 Litre setting ‘universal/PSI Gallons/inches is easier for you please do so.

It is fine by me and your efforts are much appreciated.

Regards, Tolly

kj07xk 09-10-2020 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2287041)
The below form I have to fill in for customs declaration.
at "What are you going to send?" I have to make a choice ("other" is not one of them as earlier stated)
at "Value €" the value can't be 0 or empty.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...29cc73ec33.png

Wow, they really don’t give you much choice.
Not sure how it’s interpreted locally, but some places ‘trade sample’ or ‘trade goods’ are items that are sent out for exhibitions and expected to come back (‘return goods’).
Maybe the safe choice is ‘Gift’.
I’m sure we’ll all thank you!

Cabrio Bob 09-11-2020 09:49 AM

Today, 4 devices are sent out, to JackJohn, RedRider48, Marc Voorhees and Canadacat.
You probably have received an email with the track & trace info. If not I can send it to you.

v8moise didn't respond yet, but looking at his location, he might have problems with the California fires.

There are 9 left to send, I split those up into 2 "shifts", the first coming Monday, the 2nd somewhere next week.

Rahtok 09-11-2020 11:34 AM

Oh man, the 5.0's have engine oil temp, tranny temp, diff temp, and boost pressure! I get so excited about stupid things, but this is awesome Cabrio Bob!

kj07xk 09-11-2020 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2287036)
I think paypal between USA <> EU there's always a fee involved, no matter what.
If this fee is on my account, I'm going to lose on it, which wasn't my plan.

So, I paid a fee on my side to send with F&F (probably to convert to Euros). If you have a fee charged on you side as well Bob, I'd say PP is double-dipping on this. Hope not. Please keep any overage, you deserve it!

barnsie 09-11-2020 02:00 PM

Bob - I think you have already answered this but I can't find it...

When cycling through the display options, is there a way to quickly return to the 'default' position - eg by holding the display change button for x seconds or something? I am thinking that mostly I will be wanting coolant temperature and volts and it would be neat if to get back to coolant temp from volts all I had to do was hold down the button, instead of cycling through all the other options. No worries though if this isn't built in - I just vaguely remember reading something about this (or I could just be going gaga of course :))

Cabrio Bob 09-11-2020 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by barnsie (Post 2287683)
Bob - I think you have already answered this but I can't find it...

When cycling through the display options, is there a way to quickly return to the 'default' position - eg by holding the display change button for x seconds or something? I am thinking that mostly I will be wanting coolant temperature and volts and it would be neat if to get back to coolant temp from volts all I had to do was hold down the button, instead of cycling through all the other options. No worries though if this isn't built in - I just vaguely remember reading something about this (or I could just be going gaga of course :))

It does exactly that.
The device starts up in coolant T mode,
one button press shows voltage,
other button presses will cycle further,
a long press (>0.5 sec) returns to coolant T. (or programmed to somebody's preference)

barnsie 09-12-2020 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2287688)
It does exactly that.
The device starts up in coolant T mode,
one button press shows voltage,
other button presses will cycle further,
a long press (>0.5 sec) returns to coolant T. (or programmed to somebody's preference)

Thanks Bob. Perfect!

MarkyUK 09-12-2020 06:24 AM

Well email from Hermes couriers says mine should be here between 12-2, it's a nice day so am detailing cars waiting for it. :)

Barnsie, your Hermes email states between 5-7pm, so barring any catastrophes you'll be coming 2nd by some margin :( THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!! Weird as thought most freight for the UK comes into East Mids airport??

Bob, quick question is the current 15amp fuse woman enough to cope, or do you recommend another size?

MarkyUK 09-12-2020 06:38 AM

IT'S HERE!!!
 
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...355fb5d9dd.jpg
And is Gorgeous!!!:D

barnsie 09-12-2020 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2287956)
And is Gorgeous!!!:D

Looks amazing! Fantastic job, Bob!!

paulgorringe 09-12-2020 06:44 AM

Looks even better than I had imagined.
Cant wait until mine is delivered
Thanks Bob


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