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Cabrio Bob 09-12-2020 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2287956)
And is Gorgeous!!!:D

Good to see it arrived in 1 piece.
Also good to see that LHD cars don't have the ashtray mirrored :-)
Does the lid still close?

I'm about to send another 4 out right now.

Mark, how about the additional 5.0 functions?

Cabrio Bob 09-12-2020 06:49 AM

P.s. I updated the site today, and is final I guess.
https://x150.bobhome.nl

barnsie 09-12-2020 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by paulgorringe (Post 2287959)
Looks even better than I had imagined.

Same here! Fantastic job - Bob has exceeded our expectations!

MarkyUK 09-12-2020 07:12 AM

Yep lid still closes just fine.

Barnsie and I both have RHD cars, so unsure of your 'mirroring on LHD' comment.

I sent you a private message on here Bob

GGG 09-12-2020 08:39 AM

I've removed the infantile exchange of posts about a UK carrier.

Graham

Cabrio Bob 09-12-2020 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by GGG (Post 2287998)
I've removed the infantile exchange of posts about a UK carrier.

Graham

Thanks GGG

Cabrio Bob 09-12-2020 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2287946)
Bob, quick question is the current 15amp fuse woman enough to cope, or do you recommend another size?

15 amp is more than needed. The device itself also has an internal (self-resetting) "polyfuse" (PTC) of 500mA. The device uses ~260mA at full brightness of the screen @ 5V.

Cabrio Bob 09-12-2020 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2287968)
Yep lid still closes just fine.

Barnsie and I both have RHD cars, so unsure of your 'mirroring on LHD' comment.

I sent you a private message on here Bob

Yes, a typo of me, I meant RHD.

MarkyUK 09-12-2020 01:48 PM

Bob can you explain the differences between Air Intake and AIT2 please?

Boost reading is working fine now but I only took it up to 90...allegedly officer :)

Barnsie you going to be doing some late night driving?

Cabrio Bob 09-12-2020 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2288134)
Bob can you explain the differences between Air Intake and AIT2 please?

Boost reading is working fine now but I only took it up to 90...allegedly officer :)

Barnsie you going to be doing some late night driving?

IAT2 I'm not sure, but I can imagine it is the temperature after the inter-cooler.
Could you check some time what the boost psi reading is at idle?

DGL 09-12-2020 02:14 PM

I assume one can configure the display to show volts/coolant together as shown in this previous diagram displaying coolant/speed.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...f52a14b25e.png

MarkyUK 09-12-2020 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by DGL (Post 2288143)
I assume one can configure the display to show volts/coolant together as shown in this previous diagram displaying coolant/speed.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...f52a14b25e.png

I don't think so as have cycled through them all, so will assume this pic is an earlier prototype. Do you don't want yours now due to this? :D

It is a lovely piece of kit as Barnsie will soon attest to.

LoudHogRider 09-12-2020 04:49 PM

I’m hella mad (at myself) that I missed this glorious thread. Amazing engineering work by CambrioBob creating a really need product that benefits the community.

IF there is another round of product development (or an ongoing commercial effort), I’d gladly buy one. The products I’ve purchased from Forum members over the years have made owning the Jaguars that much better.

ralphwg 09-12-2020 05:49 PM

+1

barnsie 09-12-2020 06:07 PM

Bob - just to let you know my unit arrived safely. Looks superb! Not able to fit it today as I have been out most of the day, but will fit Sunday morning and report back. Really looking forward to seeing the unit in my car. Great work, and thank you so much!

DGL 09-12-2020 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2288146)
I don't think so as have cycled through them all, so will assume this pic is an earlier prototype. Do you don't want yours now due to this? :D

It is a lovely piece of kit as Barnsie will soon attest to.

No worries. I'm sure there will be some updates to the software and hardware to come. My suggestions are:

- If 2 gauges can not be shown on the current display have an option to alternate with 5 second intervals between 2 selected gauges. This should not be too difficult to implement with a bit of added code.
- Include a speaker to sound when a set temperature or metric is reached to alert the operator. This would require additional hardware and added code.
- Use a color display to turn red when a set temperature or metric is reached to alert the operator. This would be a display upgrade with added code.

​​Bob, has shipped a unit to me. I should have it in 5-7 days. I'm a retired software engineer and would be happy to add the code myself. I look forward to more iterations of this.

​​

Cabrio Bob 09-13-2020 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by DGL (Post 2288143)
I assume one can configure the display to show volts/coolant together as shown in this previous diagram displaying coolant/speed.

That's possible in principle, but I choose not to do so since it will slow down the frequency of the OBD2 data request rate.
Yesterday MarkyUK found out that errors occurred on his device, caused by a too fast OBD2 data request rate. This had to be sped down from 300ms to 500ms in order to solve this.
Another problem what came out was that the differential temperature readout doesn't work, so that has been removed from the code.

Everyone who has had a shipping confirmation already will have to update their device when it arrives
with the latest firmware available on my website (4.2 / 3.5 EZ-Updater or 5.0 EZ-Updater)


update procedure (Windows):
- windows 7 / 8 / 8.1 users, download and install these drivers : click
- windows 10 has drivers built-in
- find yourself a micro-USB cable, plug it into the device and computer (see pic below)
- run the downloaded EZ-updater and follow the on-screen instructions.

- If you own a MAC OS X, updating is also possible, but only from within the Arduino IDE software (and download the "Model code" ZIP file)
- extract the ZIP and open the file with extension .INO
- All is explained how to do in the "Manual: software" PDF file.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...00fdf1bd04.png

Cabrio Bob 09-13-2020 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by LoudHogRider (Post 2288201)
I’m hella mad (at myself) that I missed this glorious thread. Amazing engineering work by CambrioBob creating a really need product that benefits the community.

IF there is another round of product development (or an ongoing commercial effort), I’d gladly buy one. The products I’ve purchased from Forum members over the years have made owning the Jaguars that much better.

I've had several more requests like this. I'm not sure yet if a second round will follow.
In the meantime, if you are a bit handy, you are able to build one by yourself, everything you need is available on my website.

Cabrio Bob 09-13-2020 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by barnsie (Post 2288240)
Bob - just to let you know my unit arrived safely. Looks superb! Not able to fit it today as I have been out most of the day, but will fit Sunday morning and report back. Really looking forward to seeing the unit in my car. Great work, and thank you so much!

I was tracking your shipment yesterday and saw it was delivered.
Be sure to update the device before installing, see 2 posts back.

barnsie 09-13-2020 03:50 AM

Tada .......

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...64043483ae.jpg

Amazing!! Looks totally OEM! I love it!

barnsie 09-13-2020 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2288341)
I was tracking your shipment yesterday and saw it was delivered.
Be sure to update the device before installing, see 2 posts back.

Hey Bob.... I already installed it before I saw this. Mine seems to be working OK without the update. What problem does the update attempt to fix? ***It maybe something which only affects the 5.0 models and not our 4.2s?

I'll pull it out and do the update later, if needed after your reply.

Very happy with this though. The one metric I like to keep my eye on above all else is coolant temperature and this unit solves that perfectly for me. Voltage is the other one which I find very useful - for me, all the others are a bonus.

*** Saw this now in your post. My unit is not throwing any errors at all, or at least not in the 1 minute I had it running earlier.

barnsie 09-13-2020 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2288146)
I don't think so as have cycled through them all, so will assume this pic is an earlier prototype. Do you don't want yours now due to this? :D

It is a lovely piece of kit as Barnsie will soon attest to.

It surely is!

barnsie 09-13-2020 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by DGL (Post 2288280)
No worries. I'm sure there will be some updates to the software and hardware to come. My suggestions are:

- If 2 gauges can not be shown on the current display have an option to alternate with 5 second intervals between 2 selected gauges. This should not be too difficult to implement with a bit of added code.

That would be a really cool idea! Better, for me, than showing two readouts at the same time as this would inevitably make each one smaller.

paulgorringe 09-13-2020 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by barnsie (Post 2288364)
Tada .......

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...64043483ae.jpg

Amazing!! Looks totally OEM! I love it!

Totally agree it looks like it was meant to always be there.
Is it just me or is your display background slightly red?
MarkyUK's looks more black background to the display.
Hoping it is just a trick of the light

Either way is still looks great, well done to Bob

MarkyUK 09-13-2020 04:34 AM

If you look at it from our (RHD) drivers position it looks black. But when you look at it from the passenger seat or indeed take a pic of it, it has the red tinge.

Perhaps sommat to do with the screen or a coating??

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jag...506d3d10af.jpg
One just taken at 10.30am dead straight on from the passenger side

Cabrio Bob 09-13-2020 06:42 AM

The screen is of the "transflective" type, meaning still visible in bright sunlight. That's probably causing the colour shift.

Barnsie, you probably could turn your USB charger 45° anti-clockwise and plug the USB into to back side one, that way the charger can sit deeper and there is less stress on the USB cable.

Cabrio Bob 09-13-2020 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by barnsie (Post 2288365)
Hey Bob.... I already installed it before I saw this. Mine seems to be working OK without the update. What problem does the update attempt to fix? ***It maybe something which only affects the 5.0 models and not our 4.2s?

I'll pull it out and do the update later, if needed after your reply.

Very happy with this though. The one metric I like to keep my eye on above all else is coolant temperature and this unit solves that perfectly for me. Voltage is the other one which I find very useful - for me, all the others are a bonus.

*** Saw this now in your post. My unit is not throwing any errors at all, or at least not in the 1 minute I had it running earlier.

The update has less frequent data requests from the ELM327 (0.3 → 0.5s),
removed the differential temperature option for the 5.0 models,
and has upgraded error "reporting" (on-screen) when an error occurs.
My 4.2 also has no problems with the "old" code.

Cabrio Bob 09-13-2020 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by DGL (Post 2288280)
No worries. I'm sure there will be some updates to the software and hardware to come. My suggestions are:

- If 2 gauges can not be shown on the current display have an option to alternate with 5 second intervals between 2 selected gauges. This should not be too difficult to implement with a bit of added code.
- Include a speaker to sound when a set temperature or metric is reached to alert the operator. This would require additional hardware and added code.
- Use a color display to turn red when a set temperature or metric is reached to alert the operator. This would be a display upgrade with added code.

​​Bob, has shipped a unit to me. I should have it in 5-7 days. I'm a retired software engineer and would be happy to add the code myself. I look forward to more iterations of this.

​​

There are endless possibilities.
Colour change when reaching a limit is easy,
switching screens with an interval is also possible,
a beep is also possible with a speaker (I have some laying around but didn't play with it yet)
The ESP32 is also capable of using WiFi, so it could even send you an email when certain conditions are met,
or update the device wireless using WiFi.

MarkyUK 09-13-2020 07:10 AM

Gosh Bob you need to take a rest before considering upgrades!!! :)

All in the community (especially those 10/15 lucky enough to get one) are eternally grateful.

Next time I'm in NL the meal/drink is on me :D

barnsie 09-13-2020 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by paulgorringe (Post 2288389)
Totally agree it looks like it was meant to always be there.
Is it just me or is your display background slightly red?
MarkyUK's looks more black background to the display.
Hoping it is just a trick of the light

Either way is still looks great, well done to Bob

It's just the photo. Must be something to do with the camera and the light. :)

barnsie 09-13-2020 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2288414)
The screen is of the "transflective" type, meaning still visible in bright sunlight. That's probably causing the colour shift.

Barnsie, you probably could turn your USB charger 45° anti-clockwise and plug the USB into to back side one, that way the charger can sit deeper and there is less stress on the USB cable.

Will do - thanks Bob.

barnsie 09-13-2020 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2288424)
Gosh Bob you need to take a rest before considering upgrades!!! :)

All in the community (especially those 10/15 lucky enough to get one) are eternally grateful.

Agreed!


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2288424)
Next time I'm in NL the meal/drink is on me :D

Ditto. If you are ever in the UK, Bob, and anywhere near me, let me know!

MarkyUK 09-13-2020 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cabrio Bob (Post 2288420)
The ESP32 is also capable of using WiFi, so it could even send you an email when certain conditions are met,
or update the device wireless using WiFi.

Are there instructions for this Bob, if not could you write an idiots guide (as I AM that idiot)?

barnsie 09-13-2020 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2288433)
Are there instructions for this Bob, if not could you write an idiots guide (as I AM that idiot)?

To use wifi (eg to send you and email if your battery voltage drops below xxxx) wouldn't the OBD unit have to be powered on permanently? And presumably so would Bob's unit, which isn't possible if the unit is powered from that cigarette lighter socket?

I got quite enthusiastic over the above idea until those thoughts occurred to me. ICBW of course.

barnsie 09-13-2020 08:47 AM

Just been out for my first drive since installing the unit. Fabulous! You guys still waiting will not be disappointed. The display is clear and easy to read at a glance, regardless of whether it is in shade, the dark, or bright sunlight. Also very easy to use the button to cycle through the options. Mrs Barnsie was keen to see it and have a play with it and she was also amazed at the functionality and the OEM-look. This is high praise, believe me. :)

I think it ought to have a slick name. A boring suggestion is something like Additional Display Unit, or ADU for short. I think it needs something more interesting than that. Bobometer maybe ;) Or Bobomatic. Any suggestions?

DGL 09-13-2020 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by barnsie (Post 2288461)
Just been out for my first drive since installing the unit. Fabulous! You guys still waiting will not be disappointed. The display is clear and easy to read at a glance, regardless of whether it is in shade, the dark, or bright sunlight. Also very easy to use the button to cycle through the options. Mrs Barnsie was keen to see it and have a play with it and she was also amazed at the functionality and the OEM-look. This is high praise, believe me. :)

I think it ought to have a slick name. A boring suggestion is something like Additional Display Unit, or ADU for short. I think it needs something more interesting than that. Bobometer maybe ;) Or Bobomatic. Any suggestions?

Certainly deserves recognition. I like ADU.

MarkyUK 09-13-2020 09:20 AM

Bob-a-Job maybe? (But Americans won't get this) :D

Regardless of the chosen it's a Fooking amazing bit of kit.


ArtyH55 09-13-2020 10:28 AM

Please ignore my P.M I did not read all the posts.
If there is a second round in the next few weeks could you please add me to the list.
Its great when someone adds even more pleasure to driving our Jaguar cars.
Many thanks,
ArtyH

barnsie 09-14-2020 04:56 AM

I am off out in a moment for a drive which will be a two-hour round trip. I am really looking forward to showing my buddy (who has a 2008 XK Coupe, which replaced his beautiful XK8 'Vert, red with cream leather) my new Auxiliary Display Unit (ADU).

I imagine that when he sees the ADU he will turn a good shade of green - he has always bemoaned the loss of 'proper' instruments like those he had in the XK8 - the coolant temperature and volts always being cited as the greatest loss.

:icon_banana:

Cabrio Bob 09-14-2020 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by MarkyUK (Post 2288433)
Are there instructions for this Bob, if not could you write an idiots guide (as I AM that idiot)?

I'm new to the ESP32, so no I don't know either....


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