The Power Upgrade Primer
#21
I'd be TERRIFIED of voiding my Select Edition 100k warranty by swapping pulleys. Let alone installing software that MIGHT, despite protestations to the contrary, be detected and used as the basis for warranty denial.
I'm trying to figure out how much of the gain we are discussing in this thread would apply to us 2010+ XKR owners who want to play the middle road and only do the ECU for fear of warranty compromise.
Keep the posts coming, y'all. The more successful installs, the closer I come to taking the (half) plunge. Would LOVE to do the pulley also, so much free and safe power, but just too easy to spot, and no sense of how severely Jaguar looks on this sort of thing.
I'm trying to figure out how much of the gain we are discussing in this thread would apply to us 2010+ XKR owners who want to play the middle road and only do the ECU for fear of warranty compromise.
Keep the posts coming, y'all. The more successful installs, the closer I come to taking the (half) plunge. Would LOVE to do the pulley also, so much free and safe power, but just too easy to spot, and no sense of how severely Jaguar looks on this sort of thing.
I've had 100% reliability with two forced induction engines that I increased boost on 6-8 psi and then pushed relentlessly for years under gruelling track use. Power increased by ~140 hp on a 2L, and ~140 hp on a 3L. I was successful because I carefully researched the causes of engine failure, and how to avoid them. Detonation and heat are the key issues, and the focus of this thread. Increasing boost 1.5 psi on the 5L S/C Jag is very little, as is adding 65 horsepower as BigCat09 has demonstrated with pulley and ECU upgrades.
ECU flashes are already used to make more power by several automobile manufacturers including Jaguar, and are available from after-market suppliers for just about every performance car. They've got this technique figured out, but we as consumers should still do our homework to satisfy ourselves for our uses, and know their requirements. ECU flashes require minimum 91 high octane gas to avoid detonation...no cheaping out with 87 or 89 like some who lease apparently have been known to do. That's how you avoid detonation with an extra ~40 whp with ECU flash, or 65 with ECU flash and pulley.
Be aware that some have found the increased power to feel less than stunning. Around town doesn't even tax our stock power levels, so extra power could easily go largely unnoticed. But if you do use all the power you've got on the street, strip, or race track...and would like more...then this is the way to get it. And you should definitely make that decision with the understanding that in the unlikely event of an engine problem developing that its repair might not be covered by warranty if your dealer is aware of your modifications. And that would likely apply to suspension modifications as well.
Bruce
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#23
If you are running w/o water/meth injection 1.5lb pulley is better. 3lb pulley gives more power, but it also gives higher IAT2 temps, which leads to ignition retard and power loss.
#24
But i still can't find a way to remove a torque limiters for AJ33/AJ34/AJ133 engines, even with a firmware downloaded from an ECM and disassembler. There's a lot of code, indeed.
I'm not a big fan of remapping, since a stock maps are pretty good and failsafe and IMHO all we need is to remove a limiters.
#25
Okay boys and girls; lets not forget appendix A: Traction. Stiffer rear springs and wider/better rubber should HIGHLY be considered if you start adding power to a 500+hp car. A Tune a pulley nets 600bhp according to reviews and propaganda - my non tuned car will be faster than a tuned car without suspension/tires simply with coilovers and PS2 295's
#26
Okay boys and girls; lets not forget appendix A: Traction. Stiffer rear springs and wider/better rubber should HIGHLY be considered if you start adding power to a 500+hp car. A Tune a pulley nets 600bhp according to reviews and propaganda - my non tuned car will be faster than a tuned car without suspension/tires simply with coilovers and PS2 295's
#27
In fact there's a torque/h.p. limiters in an ECU. It's possible to reflash a XKR to XKR-S, which will gvie you an additional 40hp, also it is possible to reflash an AWD X351 from 340hp to 380hp.
But i still can't find a way to remove a torque limiters for AJ33/AJ34/AJ133 engines, even with a firmware downloaded from an ECM and disassembler. There's a lot of code, indeed.
I'm not a big fan of remapping, since a stock maps are pretty good and failsafe and IMHO all we need is to remove a limiters.
But i still can't find a way to remove a torque limiters for AJ33/AJ34/AJ133 engines, even with a firmware downloaded from an ECM and disassembler. There's a lot of code, indeed.
I'm not a big fan of remapping, since a stock maps are pretty good and failsafe and IMHO all we need is to remove a limiters.
#28
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#31
This is an awful car for that kind of driving. If that's what you're going for then get something that you can put a giant turbo on.
Again though - and I promise I am not trying to be argumentative - but if that is the goal then downforce should be of a very high consideration as should suspension. Power is for bragging rights. In order to use power, there are many other factors that equally need to be addressed.
I once bet money on lap times in a 190bhp car vs a claimed 1000whp car. The spec miata(gutted and purpose built) got way faster lap times than the TT350Z with no low/mid range on 24" wheels and factory brakes/suspension. This is extreme although a very true story.
#32
This is an awful car for that kind of driving. If that's what you're going for then get something that you can put a giant turbo on.
Again though - and I promise I am not trying to be argumentative - but if that is the goal then downforce should be of a very high consideration as should suspension. Power is for bragging rights. In order to use power, there are many other factors that equally need to be addressed.
I once bet money on lap times in a 190bhp car vs a claimed 1000whp car. The spec miata(gutted and purpose built) got way faster lap times than the TT350Z with no low/mid range on 24" wheels and factory brakes/suspension. This is extreme although a very true story.
Again though - and I promise I am not trying to be argumentative - but if that is the goal then downforce should be of a very high consideration as should suspension. Power is for bragging rights. In order to use power, there are many other factors that equally need to be addressed.
I once bet money on lap times in a 190bhp car vs a claimed 1000whp car. The spec miata(gutted and purpose built) got way faster lap times than the TT350Z with no low/mid range on 24" wheels and factory brakes/suspension. This is extreme although a very true story.
Sure, a suspension and downforce would be a huge improvement for handling on a high speeds, but, then, it comes to dirver.
Once i was able to beat a 2011 XKR and 2014 Panamera Turbo on a track, while i was driving mine 2004 XJR (but it took a lot of efforts to stay behind a Mini Cooper). Well, after a 5 Chevy Caprices, i've used to own, mine XKR and XJR have AWESOME handling.
Last edited by MoscowLeaper; 10-29-2014 at 08:33 AM.
#33
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