Project 7 F-type...possibly my next car
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bklynchris (06-25-2014)
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Check this out Chris......
Jaguar XK XKR s GT 1 of 25 | eBay
I am sure this is quite fast, and probably a lot less than Project 7.
At least you can dream!
Jaguar XK XKR s GT 1 of 25 | eBay
I am sure this is quite fast, and probably a lot less than Project 7.
At least you can dream!
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To me, the stance of the 7 does not work. It sits too tall, too high from the ground. Looks like a 4-wheel drive :-). They really need to bring it down for more visual, ground-hugging effects.
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Check this out Chris......
Jaguar XK XKR s GT 1 of 25 | eBay
I am sure this is quite fast, and probably a lot less than Project 7.
At least you can dream!
Jaguar XK XKR s GT 1 of 25 | eBay
I am sure this is quite fast, and probably a lot less than Project 7.
At least you can dream!
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Lothar52 (06-26-2014)
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I just don't see how they could get the weight down that much. Don't forget that the factory claims for the F-type V8 were around 3650 lbs, a good 300 lbs less than what it turned out to be. Special editions may shave off a 100 lbs without too much compromise but, not 500.
To me, the stance of the 7 does not work. It sits too tall, too high from the ground. Looks like a 4-wheel drive :-). They really need to bring it down for more visual, ground-hugging effects.
To me, the stance of the 7 does not work. It sits too tall, too high from the ground. Looks like a 4-wheel drive :-). They really need to bring it down for more visual, ground-hugging effects.
You guys have talked me into an F1000 Just doing my research and waiting for the right car.
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I must say that in retrospect I enjoyed my GT car more. Make that the much higher degree of safety for being surrounded by a protective cage AND more predictable handling. The GT car was simply nowhere near as fussy in its handling as the open wheel race car. If I had to throw in some numbers, I'd say that the GT car, once set-up correctly, handled well 80-90 percent of the time on the track. The formula car, on the other hand, handled well maybe 25 percent of the time, its handling changing much more noticeably due to tire wear, track temperatures, track configurations etc...
I found myself actually "wrestling" with the formula car and cussing it out much of the time for handling like a "PIG". Given how much more cornering power it had over the GT car it also contributed to much more body wear and tear. It was simply much more work to drive it than the GT car. Not even talking about the fact that it took me about a year to get used to the fact that that formula car's braking distances were nearly half of the GT car. I remember being first terrified at having to scream-by my well rehearsed braking points ahead of corners with the foot still solidly planted on the floor. You lift early and 3 cars pass you under braking.
Not sure what the chassis construction is for the F1000 but, the FM was thinwall square-tubing that was obviously going to collapse in a frontal collision. We had two deadly accidents in my group while I was racing. In one, a guy back-endered an other FM during braking and climbed on top of the front car, squashing the driver to death. In the other, at Sears Point, the FM brakes misbehaved under very heavy braking into turn 11, car got sideways and hit the pitwall entry-wall, wrapping around it. Dead driver, again. In both cases a GT driver would more than likely had survived.
I was kind of glad when I decided to retire from racing, mainly on the account of not liking the formula car that much. If I ever went back to racing again, likely it would be an other GT style car.
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The safety aspect is what scares me about the formula cars as GTs are much safer, but I'm really want a car with a decent amount of downforce and light weight.
The accidents you described are exactly the ones I'm afraid of, or suspension piece breaking at speed. In a GT car you walk away with scratches, in a formula car you probably will not be so lucky.
The accidents you described are exactly the ones I'm afraid of, or suspension piece breaking at speed. In a GT car you walk away with scratches, in a formula car you probably will not be so lucky.
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The safety aspect is what scares me about the formula cars as GTs are much safer, but I'm really want a car with a decent amount of downforce and light weight.
The accidents you described are exactly the ones I'm afraid of, or suspension piece breaking at speed. In a GT car you walk away with scratches, in a formula car you probably will not be so lucky.
The accidents you described are exactly the ones I'm afraid of, or suspension piece breaking at speed. In a GT car you walk away with scratches, in a formula car you probably will not be so lucky.
I remember going through corners at super high speeds in the formula car with incredible grip and g-forces and wondering how those delicate aluminum suspension arms and ball joints would stand up to that much force, as well as wondering about the consequences of them breaking... :-). Usually you wonder about those things while you running by yourself as if there are racers next to you, your attention is on them, instead of on the "what ifs".
Once you step it up and get a car with tunnel downforce (Formula Atlantic) then there is a heck of a lot more downforce, a heck of a lot more speeds through corners and a heck of a lot harder hits in case of accidents. Lot of racers stepping up from simple wing downforce to tunnel downforce can never make the adjustment to so much higher cornering speeds. A FA car with tunnels can develop over 2000 lbs of downforce at 140 MPH. An FM car is closer to, maybe, 400 lbs with steep wing angles. HUGE difference. What that suggest is that you could drive a 1300 lbs FA race car upside down at 140 MPH on a ceiling and have the suction hold you to that ceiling without falling off :-).
I, at one point, was thinking about constructing tunnel downforce to my FM and entering it into the unlimited racing class but, chickened out; what if my engineering, in absence of air-tunnel testing, would not hold up and I would loose downforce at some insane speeds and the car would become and airplane... seen that happen...
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There's a place called Donovan Jaguar in Ct. that will put a 6 speed manual transmission in an XK or XKR if you want to pay the price and I bet they will put one in an F-Type.
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