Replacement suede for headliner
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Dear Ted,
You must be sick to the back teeth by now of people asking for samples. I'm also new to the site and am keen to replace my headliner (I had it done a few years back by a pro, and don't like the match). Now my A & C pillars need recovering, and I wondered if I could trouble you to see if I could meet up with you to have a look at the sample for the Oyster Passion Suede? I'm not far from you in Valencia. My car is off the road at present until next week sometime when I get two new Senta wheels, but when that's done, I'd love to meet.
BTW, I love the Panthera, nice work. A friend of mine is currently renovating one in Long Island NY, and he'll wet himself when I show him that picture you posted. Exact same colour.
Sincerely,
Justin
You must be sick to the back teeth by now of people asking for samples. I'm also new to the site and am keen to replace my headliner (I had it done a few years back by a pro, and don't like the match). Now my A & C pillars need recovering, and I wondered if I could trouble you to see if I could meet up with you to have a look at the sample for the Oyster Passion Suede? I'm not far from you in Valencia. My car is off the road at present until next week sometime when I get two new Senta wheels, but when that's done, I'd love to meet.
BTW, I love the Panthera, nice work. A friend of mine is currently renovating one in Long Island NY, and he'll wet himself when I show him that picture you posted. Exact same colour.
Sincerely,
Justin
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Good morning, Ted. I’ve got an 07 XK convertible, and I am about to replace exterior top convertible due to the glass separating. The folks that I have lined up to do it can do the headliner as well. What an how much fabric what I need to match the Lunar Grey/IvorySlate combo that I have?
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I am not as familiar with the convertible as the coupe, however, it seems to cover about the same territory, so I would guess somewhere between 3-4 yards of fabric. The suede to which I have access is 60" wide and costs me $5.10/yd. I give it to forum members at my cost. In other words you need between $15-$20's worth of fabric. However, is not the convertible liner, lined with a layer of padding or foam rubber for insulation purposes? The Passion Suede that I get is unlined, so you would have to get the insulating material sewn to the suede before installation. I also don't know what the color of your interior lining is compared to the colors I have. There are two greys, one almost charcoal and one very, very light. There are a number of ivory/light beige colors. Post a picture, and send me your address, and I can send you some samples of the closest colors.
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SeanU,
You don't want any foam whatsoever! The deterioration of the foam to powder is what causes the headliner to pull away. It's not the adhesive, it's that there is nothing left for the adhesive to hold on to. I will go ahead and send you a PM with my direct contact information. The suede cloth to which I have access Passion Suede, is thick enough to glue directly to the roof without the foam. It is a woven micro fibre suede as opposed to the very thin knitted Alcantara or Alston suede that was originally used. I'm assuming you have the Warm Charcoal interior which is nearly black. The Passion suede has a dark grey that is not as dark as the warm charcoal which is like a light black, and there is a black Passion Suede which is a bit darker than the warm charcoal. If you're going to be recovering the A pillars and the area back of the seats, it won't matter because there will be nothing to match since all will be redone. Several forum members have used the black and have had very good results. The fabric itself, is 60" wide and the last time I bought it about a month ago, I was paying $5.10/running yard X60" width. About 4 yards should cover the roof, the A pillars, and the little pieces in the rear, so about $20's worth of materials. PM coming momentarily.
You don't want any foam whatsoever! The deterioration of the foam to powder is what causes the headliner to pull away. It's not the adhesive, it's that there is nothing left for the adhesive to hold on to. I will go ahead and send you a PM with my direct contact information. The suede cloth to which I have access Passion Suede, is thick enough to glue directly to the roof without the foam. It is a woven micro fibre suede as opposed to the very thin knitted Alcantara or Alston suede that was originally used. I'm assuming you have the Warm Charcoal interior which is nearly black. The Passion suede has a dark grey that is not as dark as the warm charcoal which is like a light black, and there is a black Passion Suede which is a bit darker than the warm charcoal. If you're going to be recovering the A pillars and the area back of the seats, it won't matter because there will be nothing to match since all will be redone. Several forum members have used the black and have had very good results. The fabric itself, is 60" wide and the last time I bought it about a month ago, I was paying $5.10/running yard X60" width. About 4 yards should cover the roof, the A pillars, and the little pieces in the rear, so about $20's worth of materials. PM coming momentarily.
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I made a vain attempt at gluing my headliner back up. It was pretty easy to get the headliner out. It was pretty easy to peel off fabric. It took a little work to remove the old foam. When gluing the material back on I failed to realize that the material was going to have to be stretched out somewhat so that it wouldn't come up short. So, I came up short in the replace the headliner game. So, I'm looking to be saved by Ted Berg. The car is a 2007 XK which is supposed to be the single year that material called Canvas Morzine Cloth was used. According to a former posting, it is NOT the suede fabric, it's a velour/felt fabric, Canvas is the name of the colour. I'll be glad to send a piece of my fabric for comparison.
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Some members to whom I've sent color Oyster have reported back to me that the color is very close to the Canvas. PM me your address and I'll pop a large sample of the Oyster Passion Suede in the mail. Then you can hold them next to each other. And since they'll be different textures, if they're slightly different, it won't matter as much.
Ted
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McJag222 (07-07-2023)
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Over the past week, I have received numerous requests for samples of Passion Suede which approximates the Alcantara suede that was an option in the X150. I have access to a company that sells approximately 100 colors of the microfibre suede for under $5.00/running yd X60" width. I have ordered a couple of sample books, so that I can snip colors for anyone interested in receiving them for headliner replacement. The books are back ordered for a couple of weeks, however, I purchased some yardage of the colors that I thought would match the majority of Jaguar OEM colors:
Black
Oyster (most like the Caramel Jag interior)
Fawn (a little deeper color than the Oyster)
Cream (an ivory shade)
If I can help anyone out by sending snippets of the fabric, it would be my pleasure. And if it works, I will be happy to purchase and ship whatever yardage you need. I have used thousands of yards of Passion Suede over many years. It is a very realistic looking and feeling suede imitation, with outstanding durability and quality, and costs approximately 1/20 of UltraSuede. As I stated, there are many dozens of colors, so you're not limited to Jaguar colors.
Let me know if I can help.
Ted
Black
Oyster (most like the Caramel Jag interior)
Fawn (a little deeper color than the Oyster)
Cream (an ivory shade)
If I can help anyone out by sending snippets of the fabric, it would be my pleasure. And if it works, I will be happy to purchase and ship whatever yardage you need. I have used thousands of yards of Passion Suede over many years. It is a very realistic looking and feeling suede imitation, with outstanding durability and quality, and costs approximately 1/20 of UltraSuede. As I stated, there are many dozens of colors, so you're not limited to Jaguar colors.
Let me know if I can help.
Ted
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I have been putting the job off for a bit, but here is what I have found as an alternative...
This company : https://www.fabricempire.com has a fabric called "Synergy II Suede". I ordered the full swatch set from them and I have settled on the color called "Jet Black"
https://www.fabricempire.com/jet-bla...-the-yard.aspx
I was originally going to choose the lighter "charcoal", but when I asked my wife to choose, she said it was too light, and to get the Jet Black (Alston Jet was mentioned above for our color). I trust her judgement and will be going with the Jet.
They sell the fabric with or without foam backing... I am going for the foam backed. If you would like, i can try to show the samples next to my fabric, but it might not come through well.
I suggest ordering these 2 swatches to decide for yourself if you want to go this route.
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....harcoal+swatch
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....t+black+swatch
If others want an alternative / foam backed fabric you can order the full swatch set : https://www.fabricempire.com/synergy...catalogue.aspx
I have not ordered the fabric yet, but I will be posting here with photos when done. I am going with 4 yards x60" based on earlier posts in this thread.
- Sean
This company : https://www.fabricempire.com has a fabric called "Synergy II Suede". I ordered the full swatch set from them and I have settled on the color called "Jet Black"
https://www.fabricempire.com/jet-bla...-the-yard.aspx
I was originally going to choose the lighter "charcoal", but when I asked my wife to choose, she said it was too light, and to get the Jet Black (Alston Jet was mentioned above for our color). I trust her judgement and will be going with the Jet.
They sell the fabric with or without foam backing... I am going for the foam backed. If you would like, i can try to show the samples next to my fabric, but it might not come through well.
I suggest ordering these 2 swatches to decide for yourself if you want to go this route.
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....harcoal+swatch
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....t+black+swatch
If others want an alternative / foam backed fabric you can order the full swatch set : https://www.fabricempire.com/synergy...catalogue.aspx
I have not ordered the fabric yet, but I will be posting here with photos when done. I am going with 4 yards x60" based on earlier posts in this thread.
- Sean
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I have been putting the job off for a bit, but here is what I have found as an alternative...
This company : https://www.fabricempire.com has a fabric called "Synergy II Suede". I ordered the full swatch set from them and I have settled on the color called "Jet Black"
https://www.fabricempire.com/jet-bla...-the-yard.aspx
I was originally going to choose the lighter "charcoal", but when I asked my wife to choose, she said it was too light, and to get the Jet Black (Alston Jet was mentioned above for our color). I trust her judgement and will be going with the Jet.
They sell the fabric with or without foam backing... I am going for the foam backed. If you would like, i can try to show the samples next to my fabric, but it might not come through well.
I suggest ordering these 2 swatches to decide for yourself if you want to go this route.
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....harcoal+swatch
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....t+black+swatch
If others want an alternative / foam backed fabric you can order the full swatch set : https://www.fabricempire.com/synergy...catalogue.aspx
I have not ordered the fabric yet, but I will be posting here with photos when done. I am going with 4 yards x60" based on earlier posts in this thread.
- Sean
This company : https://www.fabricempire.com has a fabric called "Synergy II Suede". I ordered the full swatch set from them and I have settled on the color called "Jet Black"
https://www.fabricempire.com/jet-bla...-the-yard.aspx
I was originally going to choose the lighter "charcoal", but when I asked my wife to choose, she said it was too light, and to get the Jet Black (Alston Jet was mentioned above for our color). I trust her judgement and will be going with the Jet.
They sell the fabric with or without foam backing... I am going for the foam backed. If you would like, i can try to show the samples next to my fabric, but it might not come through well.
I suggest ordering these 2 swatches to decide for yourself if you want to go this route.
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....harcoal+swatch
https://www.fabricempire.com/search....t+black+swatch
If others want an alternative / foam backed fabric you can order the full swatch set : https://www.fabricempire.com/synergy...catalogue.aspx
I have not ordered the fabric yet, but I will be posting here with photos when done. I am going with 4 yards x60" based on earlier posts in this thread.
- Sean
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