Schrodinger's OBD2 temperature monitor
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Schrodinger's OBD2 temperature monitor
Soo.. I have one of those OBD2 heads up displays which gives me RPM, Speed, and most importantly, coolant temperature.
After much experimentation I've come to learn (as other forum members may have learned as well):
The act of monitoring OBD2 data while driving adversely affects engine performance and fueling!!!
Car would run really poor off the line in 1st gear and act as if there was a large vacuum leak and fueling
would go lean > rich > lean. which in turn would cause coolant temps to rise above normal...
The act of observing coolant temps via OBD2 (at least on the 5.0 DENSO ECU) causes higher temperatures
and overall poor throttle response and poor performance.
I realise this could be device specific, but everyone should be aware of the potential.
Has anyone else encountered this?
After much experimentation I've come to learn (as other forum members may have learned as well):
The act of monitoring OBD2 data while driving adversely affects engine performance and fueling!!!
Car would run really poor off the line in 1st gear and act as if there was a large vacuum leak and fueling
would go lean > rich > lean. which in turn would cause coolant temps to rise above normal...
The act of observing coolant temps via OBD2 (at least on the 5.0 DENSO ECU) causes higher temperatures
and overall poor throttle response and poor performance.
I realise this could be device specific, but everyone should be aware of the potential.
Has anyone else encountered this?
Last edited by trkyam; Today at 12:50 PM.
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PS you shouldn't be getting a P0171 unless you have a problem.
A P0171 code is a diagnostic trouble code that indicates your vehicle's air-to-fuel ratio is too lean, meaning the engine is getting too much air and not enough fuel. The powertrain control module (PCM) sets this code when it detects the ratio is outside of the factory-defined range.
A P0171 code can be caused by a number of issues, including: A leak or electrical problem, A dirty mass air flow (MAF) sensor, Intake gasket degradation, and PCV system issues.
When a P0171 code is triggered, the PCM will call for more fuel to be sent into the engine's combustion chamber. This is known as a positive fuel trim.
A vehicle with a P0171 code may experience the following issues: Loss of power, Stalling, and Rough idling
A P0171 code is a diagnostic trouble code that indicates your vehicle's air-to-fuel ratio is too lean, meaning the engine is getting too much air and not enough fuel. The powertrain control module (PCM) sets this code when it detects the ratio is outside of the factory-defined range.
A P0171 code can be caused by a number of issues, including: A leak or electrical problem, A dirty mass air flow (MAF) sensor, Intake gasket degradation, and PCV system issues.
When a P0171 code is triggered, the PCM will call for more fuel to be sent into the engine's combustion chamber. This is known as a positive fuel trim.
A vehicle with a P0171 code may experience the following issues: Loss of power, Stalling, and Rough idling
Last edited by trkyam; Today at 02:13 PM.
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I feel like I'm missing something: are you saying having an OBD reader plugged in is causing your car to run hot? Why would that happen, the device is only reading data from the PCM. If you have an emissions inspection requirement, the car would fail every time if that behavior occurs when reading data from the OBD connector. I have a Foxwell NT560 and have never observed that behavior, even when using Torque Pro and Track Recorder. I have a 2007 XK non-supercharged. Did I read this wrong; what am I missing?
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I'm saying that having an OBD reader plugged into your car makes your ECU/fueling act strange, and for me run lean.
Lean leads to hotter engine temps, also you have a 4.2 and different ECU so it may not apply to you.
OBD2 ports are live and if left connected to your device will prevent your ECU from powering down
and the car going into full sleep mode, your battery will die within a few weeks as well.
I'm not the only one who has reported this, theres other similar posts on this forum.
I also thought it was improbable, being that an OBD2 device is usually only reading data,
but after I unplugged mine, car runs much better.
Lean leads to hotter engine temps, also you have a 4.2 and different ECU so it may not apply to you.
OBD2 ports are live and if left connected to your device will prevent your ECU from powering down
and the car going into full sleep mode, your battery will die within a few weeks as well.
I'm not the only one who has reported this, theres other similar posts on this forum.
I also thought it was improbable, being that an OBD2 device is usually only reading data,
but after I unplugged mine, car runs much better.
Last edited by trkyam; Today at 06:47 PM.
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Something wonky with your reader. The one I’ve had the longest, and used most often, senses when the car is off, and shuts itself down. No battery drain. Only problem I had, was when I plugged it in while driving, big mistake, dash lit up like a Christmas tree and all kinds of warnings blew by on the console. Stopped and shut off the car, unplugged the reader, restarted and all was back to normal. Lesson learned, plug / unplug read while car is off.
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