So my buddy is selling his 2008 911Turbo with 6 speed and Sports Chrono. His wife wants a new 2013 Panamera Turbo becuase now they have kids and so he needs to sell the 911TT. Should I sell the XKR and buy his 911TT as I hardly drive the XKR(around 1,900 miles a year) or just wait for the redesigned 2014 R8 (which I was waiting for all along)or 2014 911Turbo (which will come withTri-Turbo now)? With his 911TT stock, 480HP and 505TQ it blows away my XKR and is quicker than my stock SL65 with 604HP and 738Torque. I think it looks better as people tends to gravitate towards his car when we cruise around. What to do....what to do.

 

I say go for it man. The Porsche is a entirely different animal. If the price is right I'd jump all over the 911.

 

I'm thinking of doing the same thing as we speak, so I would say "yes, do it".

I've had 6 Porsches, and I just can't kick the habit. I have a hundred reasons why I love the Jag, but every time I see a late-nineties 993 or later 911, it just stirs my soul.

Beautiful pic, too.

One other thing: The 911 is alone in the world. There's NOTHING else like it.

 

I would wait for the 2014 991 TT. 2010 -2013 997 TT is gen 2- 500 hp direct injection, torque vectoring, optional Pdk, etc. Your buddy's car looks nice, but there is a big difference in performance between an 08 turbo and 2010 on. It will be even a bigger difference in the 2014 991 TT. The reason to get the 08 997tt would be if you like manual gearbox and want to do big time mods, as the 08 has the sturdy metzger engine, which is legendary.

 

If you seldom drive the XKR I'm guessing you'll seldom drive the 911. Maybe it's just time for a change, as opposed to a matter of one being better than the other, great deal, more attention grabbing, etc. If you find yourself lusting after it then pull the trigger.

I've spent waaay too much time on track with 911's to find them appealing as I like something at least somewhat unique. Years ago I was on track at one event with 17 GT3's when there was only 25 in all of Canada. I've only seen 2 XKR's anywhere in the last year since buying mine. I've never been on track with an R8 though...so that car interests me more.

Good luck with your decision!

Bruce

 

I agree with Bruce, you'll just drive the 911 the same miles as the XKR.

When you see a Porsche coming the other direction you never know what it is until it's gone past you. Boxter, Cayman..or what version of 911. You'll no longer be in the exclusive club.

I always find the cabin to be squashed in the 911, with the upright dashboard etc. In the Jag you're wrapped around a proper GT car.
The standard power output is only just being tickled from stock on the Jag on that huge V8. Want more power? Then get her tuned up and it will stamp all over the 911.
Remember the Porsche is already tuned to high heaven.

 

Well Ghostrider it's a tough decision but whatever you decide, you have my support 100% and I even want to assist on the financial end as well....

I'll buy your rennen's from you when you decide to make your change

 

Porsche is whack, ugly, and boring point blank.

 

I ain't into Porsches but these cars are engineering genius . Turbo is the only model I like in Porsche family
However, I would buy something like R231 SL550 not a 4 years old Porsche no matter what or trade your R230 and XKR , add some money and treat yourself SL65

 

I see PES converted R8's as an option, or an SLS - but out of an R and into a porker is not an option in my book

 

I'd posted several times my personal dislike of the 911 series. Reason being; an engine that hangs out behind the rear axle, that makes the weight distribution of the car like a hammer that is heading down the road with the heavy hammer-head in the back. You go into a turn and you can see the physics taking over

Having said that, the 911 is fine for 99% of American drivers who buy it for the looks and for its good slow/medium speed performance. If you are in the 1% who wants to ring out the last ounce of cornering power, the 911 could likely kill you and spit on your grave. They get scary twitchy near the limit. Which is the reason that on the racetracks they were not living up to their reputations. Years ago when I raced regularly, the 4 cylinder 924s and 944s were running faster lap-times, due to their better, more confidence inspiring handling.

It is a fact that the Porsche factory attempted to cease production of the rear engined car about 20 years ago. But, there was such a loud scream coming up from the American 911 owners, threatening the factory that they would never buy the new products, that Porsche relented and continued the production. They added electronics, huge rear tires, all to contain that rear weight dangers but, like old Porsche Pro racer Bob Akin was quoted saying once about the 911:

"You can not make a race horse out of a PIG but, you can make an awful fast PIG."

And, yes, I had driven the Turbo and it damn near killed me despite no mistakes from my part!!!

Albert

 

When you step into a car, I see it as clothes. With the Jag you're wearing a gentleman's suit; smart, masculine, sophisticated.

The Porsche 911 turbo gives me images of this:



It's a mess of unnecessary add ons, accessories bolted on. I kinda feel like I'm dressed as the pic above!

 

I'd wait it out for the R8, 911 Turbo is cool, but an R8 is cool and unique. What about a Gallardo?

 

If the choice was mine, i'd get an R8 (V10). I think 911's are amazing cars, but no interest in the newer one's. Been racing/DE's in a 93' RSA for the past three years and absolutely love it. The older (air-cooled) are so rewarding to drive and have good power, but not like the newer one's that want to shunt you off the road if you're not careful. To me the older 911's are just(if not more) eye catching than the new one's. As stated above, they are all starting to look more and more alike.

 

think it's more a luxury / sporty decision.. the XK(R) is more luxurious.. while Porsche's are more for the sporty drive.. Had my eye on a 2013 Boxster S, but although the drive is more sportier.... I choose the older Jag because of the luxury ride..

 

Sell one of the Mercedes and add the Porsche. Keep the Jag.

 

The Porsche is definitely the better drivers car. Its going to be more agile, easier to control, and more involving to drive.

BUT

I'm afraid that I have a hard time believing that someone would gravitate to the 911 vs the XKR for looks. The 911s are all over the place -- common even. Like Bruce, I enjoy that I hardly ever see another XK. And the Jag is a very pleasant place to be and drive in. I imagine the real question is whether you want a GT or a Sports car. Answer that and you'll have your decision.

 

+1, That's what I did.

 

Seems like Ghostrider can keep his AMG and still have two others to chose from to sell.......

 

I say keep the XKR, more exclusive and better looking IMO.

The Porsche may be faster and in some ways more of a drivers car as Rahtok put it BUT......Keep the Jag.

Please let us know how you get on and what you decide, either way.....