Stance setup help for 07 XKR.
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Dealers being concerned about lowering is a thing of the past. I've lowered every car I've had the last 20 years with no fuss from dealers.
One was a lease and they still took it back with no complaint. In fact, they liked the mods because they were gonna jack up the resale price.
Aren't shocks a wear item like brakes and not covered by warranty?
If they are covered by warranty, be safe and buy springs from the dealer to prevent voiding of any parts.
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Yikes! According to that link the spacers are $127 a pair. Nearly $300 for all 4. I think that's a bit much. Especially since I plan on getting wheels anyhow it would be like throwing money after bad.
I thought they were much cheaper... Also, Pacio who did you use to install them again? I wonder if I should be concerned about using the dealer... If they know I put lower springs on then if my shocks go they may not cover. I have 5 years maintenance on the 11'.
I thought they were much cheaper... Also, Pacio who did you use to install them again? I wonder if I should be concerned about using the dealer... If they know I put lower springs on then if my shocks go they may not cover. I have 5 years maintenance on the 11'.
Albert
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Pacio, when you mentioned the rear tires rubbing if over 1/2 take and with a passenger is that due to the spacers being out too far or the drop being too low? If I put 15mm spacers instead of 20 would that eliminate the rubbing? Don't want to have to keep car at 1/2 tank to not rub...
Also, can you post pics/clips of the Squires exhaust. I'm thinking about it... Costs $3k US howerver, More than double the Mina!
Also, can you post pics/clips of the Squires exhaust. I'm thinking about it... Costs $3k US howerver, More than double the Mina!
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According to the H&R website the only TRAK+ spacer application for '07-11 is the 15 mm kit. It's entirely possible this will require use of shorter wheel studs as suggested earlier. H&R may have already determined that their 20mm spacers would cause the rubbing that Pacio is experiencing. There is also no H&R 2010+ lowering springs available.
2007 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
Bruce
2007 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
Bruce
Last edited by Bruce H.; 04-21-2012 at 06:50 AM.
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If you think that the spacers cost too much wait for the spring installation. I checked with my old race sponsor and he looked up the labor times in his book. Front springs 3 hours labor, rears 4 hours. In terms of $$$ that is close to $1000 just in labor cost. Of course, if you are a DIY type, you could do it all by yourself, including the front end alignment.
Albert
Albert
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I don't know why it wouldn't. They keep a picture journal. In it are pics of Benzes, Bimmers, Audi's, couple Ferrari's, couple Maserati's and several others. Didn't see any Jags but I can't see why it would cost more. It's all done the same way. Though I can't know for sure the cost is the same. I've only lowered 3 Lexus and 1 G35. I did ask questions and the reply was, they all work the same way.
It was that picture journal that sealed the deal for me. When I saw the lowered luxury cars, I knew they could handle whatever I was driving. Been using them the last 10 years.
Just remembered I did have another car lowered at another shop just because I was there at the time and didn't have to wait, they also charged $300.
That seems to be the going rate in Fort lauderdale.
It was that picture journal that sealed the deal for me. When I saw the lowered luxury cars, I knew they could handle whatever I was driving. Been using them the last 10 years.
Just remembered I did have another car lowered at another shop just because I was there at the time and didn't have to wait, they also charged $300.
That seems to be the going rate in Fort lauderdale.
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In that case that shop should be a keeper. In my area most decent shops work for over $125/hour and my Jag dealer is over $200/hour, labor only, and they charge the full book hours for jobs.
I looked only through the wheels so far and noted that likely the upper control arms will have to be unbolted to swing out the top of the damper assembly. The nuts for those bolts are in the engine compartment, one is very easy to get to, the other one requires the removal of other components.
A closer exam needed, which I will do when my spacers arrive and I remove the wheels. I will probably do it myself if I decide to shorten the springs.
Albert
I looked only through the wheels so far and noted that likely the upper control arms will have to be unbolted to swing out the top of the damper assembly. The nuts for those bolts are in the engine compartment, one is very easy to get to, the other one requires the removal of other components.
A closer exam needed, which I will do when my spacers arrive and I remove the wheels. I will probably do it myself if I decide to shorten the springs.
Albert
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According to the H&R website the only TRAK+ spacer application for '07-11 is the 15 mm kit. It's entirely possible this will require use of shorter wheel studs as suggested earlier. H&R may have already determined that their 20mm spacers would cause the rubbing that Pacio is experiencing. There is also no H&R 2010+ lowering springs available.
2007 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
Bruce
2007 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
Bruce
The H&R website can be confusing to navigate. Here is the 20mm that I ordered. Should be the same for the XKR.
H&R Wheel Spacers For Jaguar XK Coupe 2007-up 20mm (4035633)
They also list springs, if you can find them.
Can I ask a favor? Could you measure your ride height on your XKR? I'd like to know what differences exist between the XK and XKR. Measuring from a relatively level pavement to the highest point inside the wheel arches, my front wheel average is 28" and the rear is 28.25".
Albert
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Hi Albert,
That's the I love bodykits.com website for only 2007 and 2008 XK models, not XKR's...and isn't H&R's own site. Tt would appear that H&R's own application guide only shows 15 mm spacers for each year of XK/XKR, the same lowering spring part # for all years of XK, and no lowering spring availability for any year of XKR.
Here's the H&R's link showing only 15 mm spacers, and the lowering spring for the '07 XK... 2007 Jaguar XK Coupe Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XK Coupe
Here it is for the '07 XKR with just the 15 mm spacer and no lowering springs... 2007 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
Here's the H&R link for the '10 XK also showing the 15 mm spacers, and the lowering springs ... 2010 Jaguar XK Coupe Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XK Coupe
and the H&R link for '10 XKR showing only 15 mm spacers and no lowering spring... 2010 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
I just measured the car in the garage, with left and right sides being identical at 27 3/4" f and 27 7/8" rear, compared to your XK's 28" f and 28 1/4"r. There's also a difference in overall tire diameter between XK and XKR to factor in that affects fender gap.
I'll check it out on the driveway tomorrow in the daylight and maybe find a couple of other measurements to give you.
Bruce
That's the I love bodykits.com website for only 2007 and 2008 XK models, not XKR's...and isn't H&R's own site. Tt would appear that H&R's own application guide only shows 15 mm spacers for each year of XK/XKR, the same lowering spring part # for all years of XK, and no lowering spring availability for any year of XKR.
Here's the H&R's link showing only 15 mm spacers, and the lowering spring for the '07 XK... 2007 Jaguar XK Coupe Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XK Coupe
Here it is for the '07 XKR with just the 15 mm spacer and no lowering springs... 2007 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
Here's the H&R link for the '10 XK also showing the 15 mm spacers, and the lowering springs ... 2010 Jaguar XK Coupe Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XK Coupe
and the H&R link for '10 XKR showing only 15 mm spacers and no lowering spring... 2010 Jaguar XKR Applications || H&R Special Springs, LP | Jaguar | XKR
I just measured the car in the garage, with left and right sides being identical at 27 3/4" f and 27 7/8" rear, compared to your XK's 28" f and 28 1/4"r. There's also a difference in overall tire diameter between XK and XKR to factor in that affects fender gap.
I'll check it out on the driveway tomorrow in the daylight and maybe find a couple of other measurements to give you.
Bruce
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Bruce
I do realize that I did not quote the H&R website but, my link showed that I did order a 20mm H&R spacer. So, we shall see what I will receive. I thought that Pacio mentioned getting 20mm for the rear and 15mm for the front, indicating the availability of both.
Thanks for the ride height measurement. Seem like we are riding pretty much at the same levels. You are about a 1/4" lower than my car which could be simply production differences. I did average the two sides since my garage is not perfectly level.
My front tires are 245x40x19 = 678.6mm diameter
I think your fronts 255x35x20 = 686.5 mm
My rear tires are 275x35x19 = 675.1 mm
I think your rears 285x30x20 = 679 mm
So, we have 8mm tire diameter diff on the front and 4mm diff on the rears. That makes 4mm ride height difference on the front and only 2mm at the rears.
I will let you know if and when I receive my spacers. I would think that if the spacers fit my car they would fit yours too since the bolt pattern and the center bore sizes are the same for the 15mm listings. I was told that they are made in Germany and are being shipped from Washington State.
Albert
I do realize that I did not quote the H&R website but, my link showed that I did order a 20mm H&R spacer. So, we shall see what I will receive. I thought that Pacio mentioned getting 20mm for the rear and 15mm for the front, indicating the availability of both.
Thanks for the ride height measurement. Seem like we are riding pretty much at the same levels. You are about a 1/4" lower than my car which could be simply production differences. I did average the two sides since my garage is not perfectly level.
My front tires are 245x40x19 = 678.6mm diameter
I think your fronts 255x35x20 = 686.5 mm
My rear tires are 275x35x19 = 675.1 mm
I think your rears 285x30x20 = 679 mm
So, we have 8mm tire diameter diff on the front and 4mm diff on the rears. That makes 4mm ride height difference on the front and only 2mm at the rears.
I will let you know if and when I receive my spacers. I would think that if the spacers fit my car they would fit yours too since the bolt pattern and the center bore sizes are the same for the 15mm listings. I was told that they are made in Germany and are being shipped from Washington State.
Albert
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Albert, H&R definitely makes every size of spacer imaginable, and while you've definitely ordered a set of 20 mm H&R's, I'm wondering if H&R themselves don't show that application because of the rear fender rubbing that Pacio mentioned. It'll be interesting to see if you experience rubbing as well.
Bruce
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