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Owning an XKR is all about the style and pleasure of driving, but it's not the only game in town. It's said that "the difference between men and boys is the price of their toys."
Some men are like Peter Pan - the boy who wouldn't grow up - and enjoy reliving their childhood every day. The road of life is short, so enjoy the ride in whatever makes your day!
P.S. It's a replica of a pedal car, not a "peddle" car. Newspapers shouldn't make grammatical errors.
Last edited by Stuart S; 04-28-2019 at 07:47 AM.
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XKR-S compared to the F type R. There is no comparison.
You are missing a crucial point.
Say Ftype is 10X better car as you are describing. With AWD and carbon brakes....
The problem is: you cant afford an SVR.
In fact you can buy 2 5.0XKR for the same price.
You can buy a 2014 base Ftype. Around $30K.
And the untrained pedestrian may feel this is better than any car from 2012.
Now the V6 is sportier feeling, like a Miata is sportier feeling.
However, compared to my 510hp the V6 honestly felt like it did not have a supercharger.
As I was just corrected, all V6 ftypes came with supercharger. That's the most honest unbiased feedback.
V6 felt like my chariot was being pulled by agile Alaskan Huskies (the dogs, not men)
The V8R chariot has less agile panthers under its yoke.
Again the base V6 does not have many of the vital features found on the XKR
For instance the Electronic Diff, 130hp....
Say Ftype is 10X better car as you are describing. With AWD and carbon brakes....
The problem is: you cant afford an SVR.
In fact you can buy 2 5.0XKR for the same price.
You can buy a 2014 base Ftype. Around $30K.
And the untrained pedestrian may feel this is better than any car from 2012.
Now the V6 is sportier feeling, like a Miata is sportier feeling.
However, compared to my 510hp the V6 honestly felt like it did not have a supercharger.
As I was just corrected, all V6 ftypes came with supercharger. That's the most honest unbiased feedback.
V6 felt like my chariot was being pulled by agile Alaskan Huskies (the dogs, not men)
The V8R chariot has less agile panthers under its yoke.
Again the base V6 does not have many of the vital features found on the XKR
For instance the Electronic Diff, 130hp....
Well, comparing an XK to an F-Type is comparing an apple to an orange: they both grow on trees, both are delicious (in theory), both contain vitamins, fibre and juice, but they are still entirely different. I have owned both a beautiufl XK - absolutely trouble- free and very satisfying:
and an F-Type V6S (which, is much faster, more ferocious than the XK). Both are in British Racing GReen - the same name but entirely different colours - both are heart-meltingly beautiful:
But they are different - the XK is a Grand Touring car - the F-Type is a no compromise sports car - it is stiffer, noisier (in a VERY good way), faster, better in terms of transmission, handling, performance...and if it is one like mine, has many more features than the XK. Both superb, but different. Do I miss the XK? No...
Sov211,
A decade ago when I went XK shopping, the regular XK did not even cross the sports car threshold for me.
Then 5 years later, the 5.0XKR was in supercar territory for me. And I eagerly purchased one.
Its not a fair comparison to compare the 4.2 XK to any Ftype. They dont even have the same engine.
However a base 5.0 XK compared to the V6 ftype, the differences come down to preference and lifestyle.
The Ftype has the same engine or less as the 2010+ XK, which shows how ahead the XK was and not the other way around.
Were Jaguar a larger company like BMW, both the GT 5.0XK and the Ftype would exists side by side with no upgrades whatsoever. Not unlike the BMW6 and the M4.
I prefer the 6 speed to the 8 speed, I like long pulls and being able to stay in gear longer.
However a base 5.0 XK compared to the V6 ftype, the differences come down to preference and lifestyle.
The Ftype has the same engine or less as the 2010+ XK, which shows how ahead the XK was and not the other way around.
I prefer the 6 speed to the 8 speed, I like long pulls and being able to stay in gear longer.
A bit of confusion here: both versions of the F-Type supercharged V6 put out significantly more hp than the 4.2 XK, and the V8 versions likewise are as, or more powerful than the version in the XKR. There is no criticism of the XK or XKR in anything I am saying. They are superb, but the F-Type has more advanced features (where suited to a sports car and not a GT) in almost every area.
And in the 8 speed F-Type it is so simple to alter transmission settings: if you don't want to uses the full manual control, you can just use the Dynamic setting in the console! Gears are held longer, shifts are quicker and more crisp (and the steering weight, the suspension settings, throttle modulation, and instruments also all change).... but the basic point is that the F-Type is a different sort of cat, designed for a different purpose. It is luxurious -especially with the full Windsor leather interior), has thousand-way seats including bolster adjustment, better climate control features, etc, etc....but no wood trim. That works, and is desirable, in a GT but not in a pure sports car. Each of these cars is fully enjoyable in its own sphere, but the intended driver may well be different. In my case the F-Type has brought out my inner hooligan. Much more fun to drive than the XK because it requires more of the driver.
A bit of confusion here: both versions of the F-Type supercharged V6 put out significantly more hp than the 4.2 XK
What I am saying is none of the production Ftypes put out significantly more than the 5.0XK/R
They cant because its the same exact powerplant, and in some cases fewer cylinders.
In my climate, the air conditioned seats trumps all else, regardless, the XK is a more luxurious space, more of it for one.
What I am saying is none of the production Ftypes put out significantly more than the 5.0XK/R
They cant because its the same exact powerplant, and in some cases fewer cylinders.
In my climate, the air conditioned seats trumps all else, regardless, the XK is a more luxurious space, more of it for one.
Agreed, and again, both are examples of beautiful automotive art, and both are excellent cars, but with a somewhat different purpose.
Well guys: I'm one of those 'fools' who have been looking at getting a very clean 2010+ XKR convert. at a fair price for a while now.
Needs to have full dealer maintenance history, 1-2 owner car, under 30,000 miles, no black or white exteriors, as close to immaculate as possible. Planning on keeping this toy for a long-long time. For options, I like the 20" sport wheels, spare tire, wood.
Just throwing it out there......
These are old cars with old car traits. The F-Type is a much better car dynamically and has more modern tech. The market is very limited for old expensive to maintain cars. To be perfectly honest, there are many better cars available for the same money. With that said, the exterior looks of the car is what will sell it - at the right price.
If an X150 is an old car to you I'd hate to see what you'd consider an XJ-S.
Interesting thread. I sold my 2013 XKR Cab in Sept 2018 after having it advertised for approx 6 weeks. 54k miles and sold for £32k in the end and it was immaculate (and I mean immaculate. I'm a detailer by trade).
I'm now fancying another summer toy and I'm torn between a 2013 Porsche 981 Boxster S and another 2013 XKR Cab. I'm just waiting for the right spec of either car to come up and which ever one comes up first, I think I'll choose that car.
For reference I'm 36 so probably one of the younger XKR owners out there? I loved it. Much prefer its looks to the F-Type. It felt special and for me, thats what a weekend car is all about.
I have to admit in bagging my bargain XK Dynamic R for under £33k, but that was from a non-franchised dealer, with a service missing and 44k miles on the clock, the next cheapest I saw back in Oct 18 was £41k
Like you I intend to keep mine for a few years, but at a recent car show I was offered £37k for it, weirdly by an F-type SVR owner, lord knows why!?
Funny that you mentioned the Cayman , like yourself I'm in my 30s and whilst a big fan of the xk the newer shaped Cayman is one heck of a car .
The biggest problem we face with the xk is it is very nose bias a fabulous car nevertheless but when pushed hard on the twisties it can be very unstable .
I guess it all comes down to how you are planning on enjoying the ride .
Another brilliant option is the exige s , race car handling and 0-60 in under 4 sec
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