Is there anything to do on the battery before plugging a CTEK charger?
#21
It's going to be my daily driver...even in winter. I'm not going to take it every day, as I have good public transportation here, but at least once or twice a week.
I didn't know about CTek charger failure...what happens to them? Then it could be the reason why the seller gave it to me with the car...
I didn't know about CTek charger failure...what happens to them? Then it could be the reason why the seller gave it to me with the car...
2. I'm struggling to find CTek failure that leads to fire, see above posts, I've been using maintainers for 20 years on motorbikes and never had a fire issue. I'll keep researching this though, I don't want my garage burning down. However half the petrol world store toys on maintainers, I have never heard of a fire. Not saying its wrong information, but I've never heard of it and can't find anything to suggest it has ever happened.
Hopefully jons can shed more light on this - if he has any direct experience of this it would be good to know the background and the details
Last edited by wsn03; 12-07-2020 at 03:05 PM.
#22
Just found this...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...0&f=&t=1660338
I think from now on I'm going to limit the use of my battery maintainers!!! I'll bring them up to charge on a weekend once a month, and switch them all off once they go green.
I'll make it a first weekend of the month job.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...0&f=&t=1660338
I think from now on I'm going to limit the use of my battery maintainers!!! I'll bring them up to charge on a weekend once a month, and switch them all off once they go green.
I'll make it a first weekend of the month job.
#23
I don't think Cteks are guaranteed to self destruct and I reckon many have placed chargers, maintainers, tenders and the like inside a sealed locked car. But the device does produce heat and should there be a failure of some sort, it is likely a greater risk for catastrophe inside rather than outside plus and noted above it makes it more convenient to view current charge status or lack of should the be a failure of the mains.
#24
First things first however - the battery vent tube on every motorbike I've ever come across is clear, so it must be a common thing, whoever had the car might have fitted the new tube to replace the old one - don't all batteries come with tubing anyway? I can't remember if my VARTA for the XKR did or not
well it's not that i think you shouldn't trust yours as you have, because i think the likelihood is pretty low already and even lower with a quality maintainer that comes with high recommendations from the vast majority of users, but that that's why they write the manual the way they do. if they've told you already, then 1 in 500,000 units can fail catastrophically, and there's no serious legal consequences for them. mine isn't CTEK, just some no-name amazon brand. i only ever use it on batteries i've taken out of the vehicle and placed on an old floormat, with the charger/maintainer placed on the concrete, a few feet away from everything and both some distance from each other. the arrangement ensures catastrophic failure means the breaker trips, everything in there stinks for a week, and i have a pile of plastic goo to scrape off the garage floor. currently i just daily drive the XK and leave it at that.
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#25
I have been using the CTek battery tender for six years outside the car with nary a problem. The Ctek is mounted on a workbench adjacent to my XKR. I don't understand why one would want to keep the battery tender inside the boot when it in use. Particularly when the manufacturer advises keeping the tender outside the car.
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2. I'm struggling to find CTek failure that leads to fire, see above posts, I've been using maintainers for 20 years on motorbikes and never had a fire issue. I'll keep researching this though, I don't want my garage burning down. However half the petrol world store toys on maintainers, I have never heard of a fire. Not saying its wrong information, but I've never heard of it and can't find anything to suggest it has ever happened.
Hopefully jons can shed more light on this - if he has any direct experience of this it would be good to know the background and the details
2. I'm struggling to find CTek failure that leads to fire, see above posts, I've been using maintainers for 20 years on motorbikes and never had a fire issue. I'll keep researching this though, I don't want my garage burning down. However half the petrol world store toys on maintainers, I have never heard of a fire. Not saying its wrong information, but I've never heard of it and can't find anything to suggest it has ever happened.
Hopefully jons can shed more light on this - if he has any direct experience of this it would be good to know the background and the details
I bought a Deltran Battery Tender Jr. from Amazon in 2010 that was made in China and had a plastic case. Within a few months, it stopped working, overheated and melted the plastic case. Fortunately, it was on the concrete floor in my garage. Otherwise, it could haved caused my house to burn down. It was the worst customer service I ever experienced and the warranty was a joke because the required "service fee" and return shipping was more than the cost of a new unit. I'll never buy another Battery Tender brand product again.
Last edited by Stuart S; 12-08-2020 at 01:04 PM.
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Although haven't had any problems with my CTEK MUS4.3, a Battery Tender Jr. almost burned down my house.
I bought a Deltran Battery Tender Jr. from Amazon in 2010 that was made in China and had a plastic case. Within a month, it stopped working, overheated and melted the plastic case. Fortunately, it was on the concrete floor in my garage. Otherwise, it could have caused my house to burn down. It was the worst customer service I ever experienced and the warranty was a joke because the required "service fee" and return shipping was more than the cost of a new unit. I'll never buy another Battery Tender brand product again.
I bought a Deltran Battery Tender Jr. from Amazon in 2010 that was made in China and had a plastic case. Within a month, it stopped working, overheated and melted the plastic case. Fortunately, it was on the concrete floor in my garage. Otherwise, it could have caused my house to burn down. It was the worst customer service I ever experienced and the warranty was a joke because the required "service fee" and return shipping was more than the cost of a new unit. I'll never buy another Battery Tender brand product again.
That's the same for most models of maintainers, they do not Float. They charge completely then turn off. Forever. Well, until unplugged and re-plugged.
The CTEK units float, as do only a few other brands and/or models of maintainers. They continue to monitor the battery and return to a low charge rate when the battery depletes slightly, therefore keeping a battery at peak charge All The Time.
I have one CTEK and two Schumacher brands, and yes, the Schumachers have a Float Function. I have tried a few others that do NOT have the float, and they were binned.
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#28
I've kept my Battery MINDer Plus maintainer on my XKR whenever parked in my garage for over 9 years without any problems. I replaced the battery once, about a year ago, with the same type conventional wet cell battery. When the battery is charging, the green light remains solid and once it is fully charged, the Battery MINDer Plus automatically goes into float mode, which is indicated by the green light flashing. The solid red light indicates that it's plugged into the wall socket.
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Sorry Cee Jay, not buying that. My Deltran keeps my battery charged all winter. If it shut down, battery would probably be flat by spring.
#30
Just found this...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...0&f=&t=1660338
I think from now on I'm going to limit the use of my battery maintainers!!! I'll bring them up to charge on a weekend once a month, and switch them all off once they go green.
I'll make it a first weekend of the month job.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...0&f=&t=1660338
I think from now on I'm going to limit the use of my battery maintainers!!! I'll bring them up to charge on a weekend once a month, and switch them all off once they go green.
I'll make it a first weekend of the month job.
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wsn03 (12-08-2020)
#31
One thing about most "BATTERY MAINTAINERS" is that they do NOT have the Float Function. Once the Deltran Battery Tender brands top off a battery, they do NOT continue to charge anything unless they are disconnected and reconnected.
That's the same for most models of maintainers, they do not Float. They charge completely then turn off. Forever. Well, until unplugged and re-plugged.
The CTEK units float, as do only a few other brands and/or models of maintainers. They continue to monitor the battery and return to a low charge rate when the battery depletes slightly, therefore keeping a battery at peak charge All The Time.
I have one CTEK and two Schumacher brands, and yes, the Schumachers have a Float Function. I have tried a few others that do NOT have the float, and they were binned.
That's the same for most models of maintainers, they do not Float. They charge completely then turn off. Forever. Well, until unplugged and re-plugged.
The CTEK units float, as do only a few other brands and/or models of maintainers. They continue to monitor the battery and return to a low charge rate when the battery depletes slightly, therefore keeping a battery at peak charge All The Time.
I have one CTEK and two Schumacher brands, and yes, the Schumachers have a Float Function. I have tried a few others that do NOT have the float, and they were binned.
Evidently some Deltran ones float, but most do not. I dismissed the Deltran ones during my last research because I had a couple before and they all failed. I have had the Deltran brands hooked to my F150 for a month, the charger showed green, I disconnected the Battery Tender to drive away and the battery was below eight volts. Yeah, I was not happy.
After that, I disconnected the Deltran every couple days, and it would go from "FULL" indication to "CHARGE" indication and stay at Charge for a day anyway.
NEVER a Deltran for me again, ever.
My then research led me to discover that most of this sort of device do NOT float. Some Trickle, most just shut off forever.
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I have been using the CTek battery tender for six years outside the car with nary a problem. The Ctek is mounted on a workbench adjacent to my XKR. I don't understand why one would want to keep the battery tender inside the boot when it in use. Particularly when the manufacturer advises keeping the tender outside the car.
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#36
I have to use an extension cord to reach the nearest (common) outlet, but indeed, it's really sad to see what's the world has become. Already before, but especially since that virus struck.
#37
Affording a garage in London buys you a Bugatti . lol Mine is parked out on the street charger in boot , Have to have cones and cable anti trip on foot path otherwise Never had any problems
Last edited by George05; 12-08-2020 at 06:08 PM.
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#39
Blimey, proper can of worms this one!
My maintainers have always been ACCUMATE and RING - I've had others that completely fail in so many ways, these 2 makes for my bike served me well for many years, and with float I guess because I leave them for months at a time.
CTEK is a new thing for me, I just saw it recommended everywhere I looked.
I guess my takeaway is that anything can fail, and the safest thing to do with electrics left alone is switch them off. I notice my CTEK 10A charged in full within 4 hours from so low I couldn't move the drivers seat, so a day switched on once a month I think should be fine - to be fair I used to leave my XKR with no maintainer for up to 6 weeks without running without any problems as far as I can remember.
I recall reading somewhere that applying the handbrake shuts things down even more and stops battery drain, but don't know how true that is
My maintainers have always been ACCUMATE and RING - I've had others that completely fail in so many ways, these 2 makes for my bike served me well for many years, and with float I guess because I leave them for months at a time.
CTEK is a new thing for me, I just saw it recommended everywhere I looked.
I guess my takeaway is that anything can fail, and the safest thing to do with electrics left alone is switch them off. I notice my CTEK 10A charged in full within 4 hours from so low I couldn't move the drivers seat, so a day switched on once a month I think should be fine - to be fair I used to leave my XKR with no maintainer for up to 6 weeks without running without any problems as far as I can remember.
I recall reading somewhere that applying the handbrake shuts things down even more and stops battery drain, but don't know how true that is
Last edited by wsn03; 12-09-2020 at 03:06 AM.
#40
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Hi all!
Here's the situation: my XK was sold to me with an "intelligent" CTek MXS 5.0 charger, like this:
Given I've just bought my XK and that I won't get to drive it a lot these days, I thought I'd give it a good overnight charge. So I removed that trunk panel to access it, so as to open the caps (I've always done that on my previous cars, to prevent the hydrogen from accumulating and possibly from causing the battery to blow up)...and I couldn't find any way to open them!! Actually, I didn't find anything to open...
However, I noticed a little duct coming out of the left of the battery and going somewhere (couldn't tell where): could that be a vent to release potential hydrogen production during a charge?
Therefore, can I just connect my CTek to the battery and leave it like that overnight, without having to do any kind of operation on the battery prior to the charge?
Do some of you guys have experience with such chargers?
Thanks a ton in advance for your replies/experiences!!
Here's the situation: my XK was sold to me with an "intelligent" CTek MXS 5.0 charger, like this:
Given I've just bought my XK and that I won't get to drive it a lot these days, I thought I'd give it a good overnight charge. So I removed that trunk panel to access it, so as to open the caps (I've always done that on my previous cars, to prevent the hydrogen from accumulating and possibly from causing the battery to blow up)...and I couldn't find any way to open them!! Actually, I didn't find anything to open...
However, I noticed a little duct coming out of the left of the battery and going somewhere (couldn't tell where): could that be a vent to release potential hydrogen production during a charge?
Therefore, can I just connect my CTek to the battery and leave it like that overnight, without having to do any kind of operation on the battery prior to the charge?
Do some of you guys have experience with such chargers?
Thanks a ton in advance for your replies/experiences!!