thinking of upgrading to xk150
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stevepaa,
There is no comparison in trunk space between an X100 and an X150 (or for that matter any current convertibles).
In our X100s, the top folds and stacks in front of the trunk behind the back seat. In the X150 and all other convertibles) the top and the automatic mechanism stacks inside of the trunk eliminating most of the space in the trunk cavity. So, if you're considering "upgrading" based on usable trunk space, you'll be very disappointed. However, everything else about the X150 (except for maybe the looks) is vastly improved. Gone is the bowl of jello shaking when going over a dip or speed bump, gone is the sloppy handling and the uncooperative rear end at speed, gone is the overall looseness feeling of the X100. Although I have both and I have a special feeling for my X100, it's not about the ride or handling characteristics, it's about the special feeling you get riding around with the top down, acres of walnut burl surrounding you while sitting in your leather lined coccon wrapped in a classic, sensual body. Nothing quite like it. Your X100 won't bring much on resale, keep both.
There is no comparison in trunk space between an X100 and an X150 (or for that matter any current convertibles).
In our X100s, the top folds and stacks in front of the trunk behind the back seat. In the X150 and all other convertibles) the top and the automatic mechanism stacks inside of the trunk eliminating most of the space in the trunk cavity. So, if you're considering "upgrading" based on usable trunk space, you'll be very disappointed. However, everything else about the X150 (except for maybe the looks) is vastly improved. Gone is the bowl of jello shaking when going over a dip or speed bump, gone is the sloppy handling and the uncooperative rear end at speed, gone is the overall looseness feeling of the X100. Although I have both and I have a special feeling for my X100, it's not about the ride or handling characteristics, it's about the special feeling you get riding around with the top down, acres of walnut burl surrounding you while sitting in your leather lined coccon wrapped in a classic, sensual body. Nothing quite like it. Your X100 won't bring much on resale, keep both.
Last edited by tberg; 07-26-2018 at 10:10 AM.
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The X150 is VASTLY superior to the X100, except for the looks. However, those 'looks' also mandated a somewhat smaller interior in which I was forced to peer through the top half of the windscreen only, as the seat would not go low enough and my head barely scraped the inside top. That alone was worth losing the svelte lines but gaining oh-so-much-more in the X150 where the fit is so much better.
Sure, I wish I still had my 2000 XK8 Convertible, but I'd probably (definitely) choose to drive the 2010 XKR convertible every time I wanted to DRIVE. The poor XK8 would do a LOT of sitting.
Sure, I wish I still had my 2000 XK8 Convertible, but I'd probably (definitely) choose to drive the 2010 XKR convertible every time I wanted to DRIVE. The poor XK8 would do a LOT of sitting.
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I concur with Ceejay, while I had my 2004 XKR Portfolio, I was disappointed in the looks of my 2011 XKR when they were parked together. However anytime I went somewhere the 2011 was the driving choice. I just discovered the back seat was useful for something even if it was just to make up for trunk space. Now that the 2004 is gone, the 2011 looks much better!
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stevepaa,
There is no comparison in trunk space between an X100 and an X150 (or for that matter any current convertibles).
In our X100s, the top folds and stacks in front of the trunk behind the back seat. In the X150 and all other convertibles) the top and the automatic mechanism stacks inside of the trunk eliminating most of the space in the trunk cavity. So, if you're considering "upgrading" based on usable trunk space, you'll be very disappointed. However, everything else about the X150 (except for maybe the looks) is vastly improved. Gone is the bowl of jello shaking when going over a dip or speed bump, gone is the sloppy handling and the uncooperative rear end at speed, gone is the overall looseness feeling of the X100. Although I have both and I have a special feeling for my X100, it's not about the ride or handling characteristics, it's about the special feeling you get riding around with the top down, acres of walnut burl surrounding you while sitting in your leather lined coccon wrapped in a classic, sensual body. Nothing quite like it. Your X100 won't bring much on resale, keep both.
There is no comparison in trunk space between an X100 and an X150 (or for that matter any current convertibles).
In our X100s, the top folds and stacks in front of the trunk behind the back seat. In the X150 and all other convertibles) the top and the automatic mechanism stacks inside of the trunk eliminating most of the space in the trunk cavity. So, if you're considering "upgrading" based on usable trunk space, you'll be very disappointed. However, everything else about the X150 (except for maybe the looks) is vastly improved. Gone is the bowl of jello shaking when going over a dip or speed bump, gone is the sloppy handling and the uncooperative rear end at speed, gone is the overall looseness feeling of the X100. Although I have both and I have a special feeling for my X100, it's not about the ride or handling characteristics, it's about the special feeling you get riding around with the top down, acres of walnut burl surrounding you while sitting in your leather lined coccon wrapped in a classic, sensual body. Nothing quite like it. Your X100 won't bring much on resale, keep both.
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The X150 is VASTLY superior to the X100, except for the looks. However, those 'looks' also mandated a somewhat smaller interior in which I was forced to peer through the top half of the windscreen only, as the seat would not go low enough and my head barely scraped the inside top. That alone was worth losing the svelte lines but gaining oh-so-much-more in the X150 where the fit is so much better.
Sure, I wish I still had my 2000 XK8 Convertible, but I'd probably (definitely) choose to drive the 2010 XKR convertible every time I wanted to DRIVE. The poor XK8 would do a LOT of sitting.
Sure, I wish I still had my 2000 XK8 Convertible, but I'd probably (definitely) choose to drive the 2010 XKR convertible every time I wanted to DRIVE. The poor XK8 would do a LOT of sitting.
The '07s and forward look bad to the BONE!
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Geosnooker2000,
Obviously, you haven't owned an X100 as the trunk is positively cavernous easily swallowing 2 golf bags and a weeks worth of groceries along with your wife's suitcases without breaking a sweat. The OP specifically referenced trunk space in his original post, and since he has an X100, the X150's trunk will be comparatively puny. As for the "except for the look" comment, I have to agree with Cee Jay, I think the X100's lines are more classic and sensual and the X150's more muscular. Both are beautiful, but my X100 gets more compliments from passerbys than any car I've ever owned.
Obviously, you haven't owned an X100 as the trunk is positively cavernous easily swallowing 2 golf bags and a weeks worth of groceries along with your wife's suitcases without breaking a sweat. The OP specifically referenced trunk space in his original post, and since he has an X100, the X150's trunk will be comparatively puny. As for the "except for the look" comment, I have to agree with Cee Jay, I think the X100's lines are more classic and sensual and the X150's more muscular. Both are beautiful, but my X100 gets more compliments from passerbys than any car I've ever owned.
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Except for the color of the wood, you just described my 2009 XKR Portfolio convertible! Ivory and Slate leather everywhere, double-stitched with contrasting thread, with Rich Oak veneer. It's a traditional English gentleman's suit wrapped in aluminum and accompanied by a symphonic exhaust.
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What none of the other responses have said about the boot space in the X150 is that the luggage separator can be collapsed with the top up and you gain about 25% more in storage space. Of course when you want to put the top down you will have to remove whatever is in that space to deploy the separator in order to put the top down. Solution? move that stuff to back seat and you are all set. We have made road trips of 8-10 days in my XKR and have done that from time to time. As far as looks go in comparing the 100 to 150, it is all in personal taste. IMO there is nothing available comparably priced that can hold a can to the X150!!
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sharx8 (07-30-2018)
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What none of the other responses have said about the boot space in the X150 is that the luggage separator can be collapsed with the top up and you gain about 25% more in storage space. Of course when you want to put the top down you will have to remove whatever is in that space to deploy the separator in order to put the top down. Solution? move that stuff to back seat and you are all set. We have made road trips of 8-10 days in my XKR and have done that from time to time. As far as looks go in comparing the 100 to 150, it is all in personal taste. IMO there is nothing available comparably priced that can hold a can to the X150!!
Guys, I'm not too serious about this subject. Don't take my comments as aggressive. I'm just kidding around about the looks part.
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stevepaa,
However, everything else about the X150 (except for maybe the looks) is vastly improved. Gone is the bowl of jello shaking when going over a dip or speed bump, gone is the sloppy handling and the uncooperative rear end at speed, gone is the overall looseness feeling of the X100.
Your X100 won't bring much on resale, keep both.
However, everything else about the X150 (except for maybe the looks) is vastly improved. Gone is the bowl of jello shaking when going over a dip or speed bump, gone is the sloppy handling and the uncooperative rear end at speed, gone is the overall looseness feeling of the X100.
Your X100 won't bring much on resale, keep both.
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I had a 2002 XKR convertible and have a 2014 XKR convertible now. I agree, the trunk in the X100 is MUCH bigger than the X150. And I loved the gorgeous wood dash in my X100. I miss it really. It might be the nicest dash I’ve ever seen in a car. But those, in my humble opinion, are the only positives of the X100 over the X150. The X150 is better in every other area, including looks. Yes, I love the front end of the X100 but not as much as a 2012+ X150. And the back end? I’ve never liked the look of the rear of the X100. Something is just not right with those taillights. I think Jaguar messed that up. But the back of the X150 is gorgeous. Drop dead gorgeous. Performance wise, the X150 is fabulous in every way. It’s truly remarkable how fast it is and how well it handles and at the same time how well it rides and how little road noise there is. Wow. The X100 is certainly good but doesn’t compare. But don’t get me started with reliability. Maybe I had a lemon, but my X100 was the most unreliable car I’ve ever owned. The rear end went out on my maiden voyage home. And it didn’t stop there. The X150’s, on the other hand, have earned a reputation for good reliability. What a remarkable car.
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I can totally understand your love for your X100. They are sensuous and that interior makes me want to drool. Please share pics of your car after you get it back! I wish my experience with my ‘02 was more positive as far as reliability. It’s just no fun to not trust your car.
Danny
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tberg (07-29-2018)
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Danny,
I had every single known and many unknown maladies of the X100 happen to my '02 in the 115,000 miles I put on the car in the past 8-10 years (on top of the 60,000 miles that were already on the car). And this on a car that had a full Jaguar factory service history. Everything broke including the plastic tensioners, water pumps, convertible hydraulic hoses and the ram, supercharger, octopus hoses under supercharger, everything. I paid at least twice as much to fix the car than the great bargain I got in paying for the car. And now, in restoring it with an engine rebuild, respray, suspension freshening, etc., I'll have spent more than I originally paid for the car (when I could have bought another in very good condition for less) to accomplish this. But when I think about what I could buy for about $15000 that I could enjoy as much and in nearly new (now) condition, the answer is simply NOTHING!!! My X150 5.0L coupe provides everyday performance, my Pantera (when and if I ever get it back, hopefully in the next couple of days) will provide the raw thrills of supercardom, but my X100 will provide a classic gentleman's cruiser that still provides some measure of performance and a boatload of pleasure. Pictures of my 2002 XKR and my '72 Pantera next week.
I had every single known and many unknown maladies of the X100 happen to my '02 in the 115,000 miles I put on the car in the past 8-10 years (on top of the 60,000 miles that were already on the car). And this on a car that had a full Jaguar factory service history. Everything broke including the plastic tensioners, water pumps, convertible hydraulic hoses and the ram, supercharger, octopus hoses under supercharger, everything. I paid at least twice as much to fix the car than the great bargain I got in paying for the car. And now, in restoring it with an engine rebuild, respray, suspension freshening, etc., I'll have spent more than I originally paid for the car (when I could have bought another in very good condition for less) to accomplish this. But when I think about what I could buy for about $15000 that I could enjoy as much and in nearly new (now) condition, the answer is simply NOTHING!!! My X150 5.0L coupe provides everyday performance, my Pantera (when and if I ever get it back, hopefully in the next couple of days) will provide the raw thrills of supercardom, but my X100 will provide a classic gentleman's cruiser that still provides some measure of performance and a boatload of pleasure. Pictures of my 2002 XKR and my '72 Pantera next week.
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XJDanny (07-30-2018)
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Danny,
I paid at least twice as much to fix the car than the great bargain I got in paying for the car. And now, in restoring it with an engine rebuild, respray, suspension freshening, etc., I'll have spent more than I originally paid for the car (when I could have bought another in very good condition for less) to accomplish this. But when I think about what I could buy for about $15000 that I could enjoy as much and in nearly new (now) condition, the answer is simply NOTHING!!! .
I paid at least twice as much to fix the car than the great bargain I got in paying for the car. And now, in restoring it with an engine rebuild, respray, suspension freshening, etc., I'll have spent more than I originally paid for the car (when I could have bought another in very good condition for less) to accomplish this. But when I think about what I could buy for about $15000 that I could enjoy as much and in nearly new (now) condition, the answer is simply NOTHING!!! .