Valve cover gasket replacement - new bolts or seals?
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Valve cover gasket replacement - new bolts or seals?
Hi all,
It looks like at least one of my valve cover gaskets (4.2 N/A) needs changing as there is an oil leak that seems to be landing on the alternator. No known problems with the latter but clearly needs looking at sooner rather than later.
In the reading I've done there seem to be mixed views on replacing the 14 bolts (of differing types) with new. The workshop manual says to replace the "retaining bolt O-ring seals" but I can't find a part number for the seals - only the full bolt, and 14 of them add up. The tightening torque is low (12 Nm) but someone suggested using a lower torque if reusing the existing bolts.
In short:
It looks like at least one of my valve cover gaskets (4.2 N/A) needs changing as there is an oil leak that seems to be landing on the alternator. No known problems with the latter but clearly needs looking at sooner rather than later.
In the reading I've done there seem to be mixed views on replacing the 14 bolts (of differing types) with new. The workshop manual says to replace the "retaining bolt O-ring seals" but I can't find a part number for the seals - only the full bolt, and 14 of them add up. The tightening torque is low (12 Nm) but someone suggested using a lower torque if reusing the existing bolts.
In short:
- Has anyone reused their old bolts and seals? If so, what torque did you tighten to? Have you had any issues with leaks?
- Does anyone know the part number for the seal(s) (which in pictures online look more like grommets to me - quite thick)?
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Having had a look at what's required for this job I'm not sure doing it myself is a good idea. One bolt in particular is hard to reach, with less than an inch between it and the suspension turret. Given the angle, I'm guessing it would need a universal joint or flexible extension which would affect the accuracy of the torque wrench and I understand getting the torque right is key.
If anyone has done it themselves, thoughts welcome! Thank you.
If anyone has done it themselves, thoughts welcome! Thank you.
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The part in question is engine valve cover mounting spacer/bush. The JLR part number is AJ810631.
To access the cam cover rear bolts on Bank 2 on the X150 may require repositioning the wiring harness that runs to the bulkhead. Use a 1/4-inch drive universal 10mm socket and long extension to access all the cam cover bolts.
The bolts can be reused if they're undamaged, and not corroded. Use RTV sealant on the two areas on each cylinder head where the timing cover meets with the cylinder head. DO NOT use any sealer on the rest of the area along the cam cover seal and cylinder head.
To access the cam cover rear bolts on Bank 2 on the X150 may require repositioning the wiring harness that runs to the bulkhead. Use a 1/4-inch drive universal 10mm socket and long extension to access all the cam cover bolts.
The bolts can be reused if they're undamaged, and not corroded. Use RTV sealant on the two areas on each cylinder head where the timing cover meets with the cylinder head. DO NOT use any sealer on the rest of the area along the cam cover seal and cylinder head.
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Here is a listing for the spacer/bush from SNG Barratt, one of the forum sponsors:
https://www.sngbarratt.com/English/#...1-d3057314b62a
https://www.sngbarratt.com/English/#...1-d3057314b62a
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Thanks, all, very helpful.
@kj07xk I'd seen your thread - thank you for documenting. The information re. bolts / parts was very helpful (and in fact is partly why I asked about reusing them when I worked out the total cost of replacing the whole bolt!).
@kj07xk I'd seen your thread - thank you for documenting. The information re. bolts / parts was very helpful (and in fact is partly why I asked about reusing them when I worked out the total cost of replacing the whole bolt!).
and additional torque will not put additional pressure on the gasket, its designed this way.
Definitely replace the bolt seals! you can re-use the bolts but putting new seals on the old bolts takes additional time.
Removing the wiring harness and fuel rails (5.0) is pretty tricky and you have to be careful.
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Hi @kj07xk - sorry - me again. I wanted to check something based on your experience, with reference to this helpful photo:
Is the grommet (rubber donut) identical on all three parts? Thanks!
Is the grommet (rubber donut) identical on all three parts? Thanks!
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@urbanology Got a chance to did through the buried basement closet, the last possible place I might have kept them, but no luck. I apparently discarded the old ones, so I can’t say for sure that the grommets are the same size.
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