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Old 03-06-2023, 07:53 AM
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Guys, took one of BMW's in for a recall. The per-hour labor charge was $340 at this Ft Lauderdale BMW dealer. Someone told me that most dealers make their money in the shop...

Anyone have a latest Jag per-hour dealer cost in the US?

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I think the local JLR dealers in MA are $190 an hour. With the inflation going the way it is, that rate is written on a whiteboard easily adjusted.
 
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The new JLR dealer in Brooklyn has a posted hourly rate of $499 per hour
 
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Originally Posted by BagelConsultant
The new JLR dealer in Brooklyn has a posted hourly rate of $499 per hour
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Originally Posted by BagelConsultant
The new JLR dealer in Brooklyn has a posted hourly rate of $499 per hour
quick calculation...a good mechanic could generate over 1M$ @ year in labor alone!
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quick calculation...a good mechanic could generate over 1M$ @ year in labor alone!
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Just too bad he doesn't get to take but a fraction of that home. I thought it was getting a bit ridiculous 25 years ago when our local Ford dealer moved out on the loop into a brand new facility. I went in to get something and the parts department had real marble countertops. I think a lot of dealers overinvested in facility. I don't want to subsidize everyone's free caffè latte while they wait for their oil change. Put in a Starbucks and let them pay $6 for their own latte. Either DIY or find an indy who doesn't offer free latte.
 
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Those are some outrageous prices.
Granted there is a cost to tooling and maintaining the bricks and mortar and support services…
But simply outrageous.
 
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Local Jag dealer just quoted $174.95 (Canadian) around $128.59 US depending on exchange rate.
 
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$190 per hour Mobile Alabama
 
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I haven't checked the Jag dealer, but my Indie in Austin is $150 an hour.
 
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I haven't checked the Jag dealer, but my Indie in Austin is $150 an hour.
From Europe: in the Wiesbaden area, Germany, the local Volkswagen Center have just overtaken the official Jaguar dealership nearby, with an hourly rate >> 200€. result: regular 60,000 mile service of a new Beetle (no repairs) at around 900 €. Plus car back with (new) problem due to service manipulation. Never again.
 

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Jaguar Chantilly (Washington DC area) charges $220/hr as of October 2022.
 
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Originally Posted by pdupler
Just too bad he doesn't get to take but a fraction of that home. I thought it was getting a bit ridiculous 25 years ago when our local Ford dealer moved out on the loop into a brand new facility. I went in to get something and the parts department had real marble countertops. I think a lot of dealers overinvested in facility. I don't want to subsidize everyone's free caffè latte while they wait for their oil change. Put in a Starbucks and let them pay $6 for their own latte. Either DIY or find an indy who doesn't offer free latte.
Personally, I agree.

Manufacturers wield a lot of power. They expect xxx-facility standards to be met and want to convey xxx-image. Sometimes the franchised dealers undertake massive facility overhauls only because they're forced to.

I spent 30 years working at dealerships, starting in the late 70s. Todays dealerships, IMO, are often very sterile and unwelcoming. Not only in appearance and general atmosphere but in the way staff are trained as well.

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Originally Posted by panthera999
Guys, took one of BMW's in for a recall. The per-hour labor charge was $340 at this Ft Lauderdale BMW dealer. Someone told me that most dealers make their money in the shop...

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Where most of the dealer profit comes from can vary a lot from dealer to dealer. Lots of variables. However, the service department is absolutely expected to generate xxx-revenue. It's very much a numbers game. It can be a nasty business.

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Originally Posted by pdupler
Just too bad he doesn't get to take but a fraction of that home. I thought it was getting a bit ridiculous 25 years ago when our local Ford dealer moved out on the loop into a brand new facility. I went in to get something and the parts department had real marble countertops. I think a lot of dealers overinvested in facility. I don't want to subsidize everyone's free caffè latte while they wait for their oil change. Put in a Starbucks and let them pay $6 for their own latte. Either DIY or find an indy who doesn't offer free latte.
I was thinking this exactly as well. Both Jag dealers near me (Grapevine and Frisco TX) are absolutely beautiful. Leather couches, TVs, snacks, water, coffee machines that serve lattes, Marble, hardwood trim, etc. Give me a break. The Lincoln dealer isn't far behind... Now the Hyundai service area is a dump like it should be. Haha. Just get me in and get out.

As far as labor rate, I'm not sure exactly. My son got quoted $1400 to do rear brakes on his XFRS. Probably 1/2 is parts cost but I believe that is a bit high.
 
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Zimmerman rotors and Akebono pads would be less than $200. Pro can do the job in an hour, easy.
 
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Zimmerman rotors and Akebono pads would be less than $200. Pro can do the job in an hour, easy.
Many, many places say "You need new calipers" and charge an additional $1000 for that complete falsehood. They probably wire brush the old ones and resell to the next guy as "rebuilt" for another $1000.
 
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Many, many places say "You need new calipers" and charge an additional $1000 for that complete falsehood. They probably wire brush the old ones and resell to the next guy as "rebuilt" for another $1000.
Agreed. Never, in all my shadetreeing years, have I seen a failed caliper. Oh, I screwed one up once, by being too vigorous at cleaning the area around the dust boots. But that was a 45 min fix with a $2 part.
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
Many, many places say "You need new calipers" and charge an additional $1000 for that complete falsehood. They probably wire brush the old ones and resell to the next guy as "rebuilt" for another $1000.
GM dealer working on my old Saab 900 Turbo claimed the same - brake pad pins were rusted, so they couldn't remove them - took the vehicle home, drilled out the rusted pins and did the job myself. Never went there again.
 
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I should clarify that quote was for pads and rotors and labor.
 


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