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Old 05-04-2021 | 04:30 PM
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Bought my 2010 XK last fall, 53K miles. One of the first 2010 built (Sept. 2019) Wanted to have a base line for her so I had all the fluids changed and just had a drop pan transmission fluid change done.
I asked the Dealership to look to see if the water pump was original, they said it looked original, so they're going to give me an estimate on replacement.
So far there is nothing wrong with it, no leaks, no drips, no overheating.
So, do some preventive maintenance and replace it, or wait and see.
How many here have an original water pump on your Jag and how many miles ? Just wondering
 

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Old 05-04-2021 | 04:42 PM
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My 2011 XKR is in for a super charger oil replace. I have the original water pump and with 82,000 miles on the original pump it's getting replaced.
 
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Old 05-04-2021 | 07:51 PM
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I have the original water pump on mine as well..63k miles, I bought all the parts, but I am hesitant to change something that is working fine.
 
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Old 05-04-2021 | 08:19 PM
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Other members are also on the original with no issues. I'd leave it alone as you'll likely know when it needs replacing due to failure and there's a good chance yours will have no issues and there is a chance if the replacement is not installed correctly it could fail prematurely. I've been through multiple water pumps on recent MY JLR engines using the same pump so age really has little to do with it.
 
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Old 05-04-2021 | 10:07 PM
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I am in the ain't broke don't fix it crowd. I have replaced a half dozen water pumps in cars that I owned, mainly because back in the day (high school and college) I had to buy older cars with high mileage. Usually they give you a decent warning, a post nasal drip, or a rattle, something that tells you the pump is struggling. And yes, I was the guy in the apartment complex in the parking lot working on his car, removing the fan, unbolting the water pump, scraping old gasket material, with coolant all over the place.

So do I sit around and worry about a premature failure of my water pump in my Jag, not one bit. Sitting at 40 something thousand miles I am always cognizant of any indication there is a problem, whether oil or coolant leak. Be aware, but don't be scared.
 
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Old 05-05-2021 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 95 Cat
My 2011 XKR is in for a super charger oil replace. I have the original water pump and with 82,000 miles on the original pump it's getting replaced.
The age of your car and mileage also have the supercharged belt and ancillary belt replaced whilst in Indy garage
 
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Old 05-05-2021 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jbmi
Bought my 2010 XK last fall, 53K miles. One of the first 2010 built (Sept. 2019) Wanted to have a base line for her so I had all the fluids changed and just had a drop pan transmission fluid change done.
I asked the Dealership to look to see if the water pump was original, they said it looked original, so they're going to give me an estimate on replacement.
So far there is nothing wrong with it, no leaks, no drips, no overheating.
So, do some preventive maintenance and replace it, or wait and see.
How many here have an original water pump on your Jag and how many miles ? Just wondering
I had mine replaced at similar mileage for peace of mind since reading of problems on her , but that's me I am high on maintenance
 
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:11 AM
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I'm beginning to think that the water pump itself was never really at fault, but rather there is something else going on in the cooling system of some Jaguars and the water pump is just the weakest link in the chain. I don't think they've ever figured it out but were on the right track with the hose reroute. Just anecdotally from reading this forum it seems like the XFs with the 5.0L were far more susceptible to water pump failure. I'm on #4 at 53K miles. You may be safe, but in any case, it usually doesn't fail catastrophically all at once but rather you'll start smelling the coolant or hearing the bearing squeak once in a while. Just stay aware because I've noticed in my own case it can be as little as a week between the first nasal whiff and the bearing screaming like Halloween. At the first sign, you need to stop driving the car and get it fixed. At least its not hard to change and not very expensive. Since there seems to be no magic quality behind the OEM, I'm trying a <$100 aftermarket brand this time.
 
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Old 05-05-2021 | 03:59 PM
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Just got my estimate on a new water pump.
Installed $760, but I didn't see any new belts listed.
It's really running nice now, so I think I'll just wait..
Thanks for all the info.
 
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Old 05-05-2021 | 04:27 PM
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I had sc nose and couller, new bolt-on pulley, drain and refill of SC oil, spark plug change, water pump and coolant change to Evans waterless all for £1500 or x 1.39 for your USD's. Inc parts

That also included all the gaskets and SC hoses.

But I used an Indy with an £80/110 usd inc hourly labour rate, which I feel sure is a lot less than a main dealer.
 
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Old 05-05-2021 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
I had sc nose and couller, new bolt-on pulley, drain and refill of SC oil, spark plug change, water pump and coolant change to Evans waterless all for £1500 or x 1.39 for your USD's. Inc parts

That also included all the gaskets and SC hoses.

But I used an Indy with an £80/110 usd inc hourly labour rate, which I feel sure is a lot less than a main dealer.
That's quite cheap Mark when I think of what I spent getting those thinks replaced one at a time over the space of a year or two
 
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Old 05-05-2021 | 09:16 PM
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I would use the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach since there is no guarantee that replacing it will eliminate the potential of the new one failing. I've had 5 in my tenure as owner of a 2010 XKR, so none of the previous four lasted too long. I just make sure to check my coolant level religiously, and if you notice the level dropping, you know what to do.
 
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Old 05-06-2021 | 09:26 AM
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I have a '10 XK Coupe with nearly 44k miles on it with the original pump. My '11 XJL had a bad one and it screamed like a banshee at 19k miles. Normal failure is right about 20k miles according to all I've read. Good Luck!!
 
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Old 05-06-2021 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tberg
I would use the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach since there is no guarantee that replacing it will eliminate the potential of the new one failing. I've had 5 in my tenure as owner of a 2010 XKR, so none of the previous four lasted too long. I just make sure to check my coolant level religiously, and if you notice the level dropping, you know what to do.
Five..that's crazy. I panicked when I saw that I had what looked to be the original on mine with no service record of replacement, but also no evidence of failure. I bought all the parts, but now I'm hesitant on installing it- sometimes when you go to fix things, it breaks two others.
 
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Old 05-06-2021 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by silvertonesx24
Five..that's crazy. I panicked when I saw that I had what looked to be the original on mine with no service record of replacement, but also no evidence of failure. I bought all the parts, but now I'm hesitant on installing it- sometimes when you go to fix things, it breaks two others.
Agreed. The biggest problem with our plastic cooling systems is when something is replaced, there is always a fair chance of "collateral damage". If the pump is still working fine, why risk disturbing the extremely fragile and possibly brittle plastic parts, taking things apart and putting them back together? I'd leave it alone....too much risk.
 
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Old 05-06-2021 | 01:14 PM
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Agreed. The biggest problem with our plastic cooling systems is when something is replaced, there is always a fair chance of "collateral damage". If the pump is still working fine, why risk disturbing the extremely fragile and possibly brittle plastic parts, taking things apart and putting them back together? I'd leave it alone....too much risk.
Anyone want to buy all the latest 5.0 water pump parts needed for a change? Lol...

I'll probably keep them around in a box, just in case. I just panicked when I found out mine is original after hearing all of the horror stories and ordered everything needed to change. It's easy to forget these forums tend to self-select the most unfortunate owners of these machines.
 
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Old 05-06-2021 | 02:05 PM
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That's quite cheap Mark when I think of what I spent getting those thinks replaced one at a time over the space of a year or two
I supplied the waterless coolant and plugs (bought at less than half the price)

I suspect that being this 'side of the pond' I'll probably pay less than you guys stateside...or anyone in London
 
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Old 05-06-2021 | 02:18 PM
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2012 XKR w/ 55k and original water pump; no intention of changing it if there aren't any issues
 
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Old 05-06-2021 | 03:04 PM
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68,000 and original, no sounds coming from it and no leaks.
Course, I think I now detect a noise from the blower snout.
 
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Old 05-09-2021 | 08:13 PM
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ALSO a 2010 with an in-service of Sept '09! Just recently rolled over 90,000 miles. This is my daily driver and the only car I own.
I have had a run of issues, but all seems good now. But but but.... last issue was a temp sensor and fan motor for the cooling fan. That red "ENGINE TEMPERATURE" triangle is not fun to see.
Anyway, it was under my warranty and my dealer said "....and it looks like it may have stressed the water pump (wink wink)," so I now have a new water pump as well-- but prior to the swap I was at 82000 miles and no issues with it whatsoever. (Free bonus-- you get new coolant with the swap so I could check that off the to-do list.)
My vote: leave it for now.
 
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