What's wrong with this picture? 350hp Amg vs 416hp xkr air filter size
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If you got more insight ,I'd love to hear it. To me it seems as a simple calculation ,two tubes at .6 psi on each side x2. Someone with good physics skills is needed here
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Flow loss in any dual ducting is a binary factor. Any additional ducting would create an average restriction, not a cumulative. How could more flow create a higher obstruction?
Take my word for it, airflow restriction in any poly configuration amasses to an average. In your previous example, .6 drop on one side and a .6 drop on the other side would be a total of .6 drop for both. The average of .6 and .6 IS .6.
Follow this....... if there was a 10% drop on one of two sides and a TOTAL blockage on the other side, there would NOT be a combined loss of 100% + 10%. It would be half of the total @ 55%. Average. Not accumulation.
Take my word for it, airflow restriction in any poly configuration amasses to an average. In your previous example, .6 drop on one side and a .6 drop on the other side would be a total of .6 drop for both. The average of .6 and .6 IS .6.
Follow this....... if there was a 10% drop on one of two sides and a TOTAL blockage on the other side, there would NOT be a combined loss of 100% + 10%. It would be half of the total @ 55%. Average. Not accumulation.
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If you measure 1 ohm resistance on each wire; the resistance for both of the wires together is still 1 ohm.
The resistance you measure on each path is an average not a total - because air is flowing at that resistance.
If you have three wires with 1 ohm resistance, the resistance is still 1 ohm.
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And apparently Mercedes engineers we're thinking that a 350hp e55 AMG needed an air filter 35% larger than 416h or 510hp in 5.0 xkr. Engineers are human after all, and there are different factors such as cost, time and so on they they follow by to get things done.
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Flow loss in any dual ducting is a binary factor. Any additional ducting would create an average restriction, not a cumulative. How could more flow create a higher obstruction?
Take my word for it, airflow restriction in any poly configuration amasses to an average. In your previous example, .6 drop on one side and a .6 drop on the other side would be a total of .6 drop for both. The average of .6 and .6 IS .6.
Follow this....... if there was a 10% drop on one of two sides and a TOTAL blockage on the other side, there would NOT be a combined loss of 100% + 10%. It would be half of the total @ 55%. Average. Not accumulation.
Take my word for it, airflow restriction in any poly configuration amasses to an average. In your previous example, .6 drop on one side and a .6 drop on the other side would be a total of .6 drop for both. The average of .6 and .6 IS .6.
Follow this....... if there was a 10% drop on one of two sides and a TOTAL blockage on the other side, there would NOT be a combined loss of 100% + 10%. It would be half of the total @ 55%. Average. Not accumulation.
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I would assume the 349 HP is a NA fed engine where the addition area would be needed. Don't know the dynamics here but would believe the engineers picked the optimum needs considering the performance criteria they were aiming for. Bigger isn't necessarily better.
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They probably have similar filter surface area, so similar life at a given air flow. The Jag has many more pleats than the Merc, so probably similar filter area. The main difference is velocity through the filter, the Merc air face velocity is lower than the Jag at the same air flow rate. Higher velocity translates into higher pressure drop, so the Jag would need a deeper vacuum to draw the same air flow as the Merc.
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They probably have similar filter surface area, so similar life at a given air flow. The Jag has many more pleats than the Merc, so probably similar filter area. The main difference is velocity through the filter, the Merc air face velocity at the same air flow rate. Higher velocity translates into higher pressure drop, so the Jag would need a deeper vacuum to draw the same air flow as the Merc.
Below is e55 OEM filter
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