Will F-Type kill the XK?
#61
Guys,
Just wondering if any of you were also worried that the F-type might mean the beginning of the end for the XK. The main complaint I keep hearing from reviewers is the lack of space in the XK's back seat, that the design is aging and that Jag should just do away with it. Nooo I say. Those tiny back seats are what allowed me to convince my wife that we would be able to fit our 2 kids (5 and 7) and all go for a top-down Sunday drive. Which we did today for the first time, and they are now the coolest kids on the block, their words. It may be a niche but the only other 4 passenger convertibles that remotely compare performance wise, are way less sporty (E550 Vert, S5 Vert, etc), or way more expensive (911 vert, Maserati GranTurismo, Aston, etc).
The rarity of the XK on the road and its timeless style will surely ensure the car's desirability for years to come, even if they do halt production, however I would really hate to see Jag 2+2's disappear entirely...
If you agree, say it loud... Jaguar, Keep The XK Alive!
Just wondering if any of you were also worried that the F-type might mean the beginning of the end for the XK. The main complaint I keep hearing from reviewers is the lack of space in the XK's back seat, that the design is aging and that Jag should just do away with it. Nooo I say. Those tiny back seats are what allowed me to convince my wife that we would be able to fit our 2 kids (5 and 7) and all go for a top-down Sunday drive. Which we did today for the first time, and they are now the coolest kids on the block, their words. It may be a niche but the only other 4 passenger convertibles that remotely compare performance wise, are way less sporty (E550 Vert, S5 Vert, etc), or way more expensive (911 vert, Maserati GranTurismo, Aston, etc).
The rarity of the XK on the road and its timeless style will surely ensure the car's desirability for years to come, even if they do halt production, however I would really hate to see Jag 2+2's disappear entirely...
If you agree, say it loud... Jaguar, Keep The XK Alive!
#62
What they SHOULD do is make the XK as big as a maserati Gran turismo so you can fit people in the back.That way the back seats will finally become useful
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Barry Leftwich (02-11-2021)
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#66
it ALREADY is a 4 seater...The seats just aren't big enough to fit people in the back which they should.Making the car a little bigger for back seat leg room shouldn't hurt a thing and if you try to fit a kid in the back since kids are the only 1s that can barely fit back there,they hate the car cause of how small it is,and kids are the future of becoming Jaguar fans and I don't think no backseat leg room should leave a mark on their childhood if you try to impress them with a Jaguar.It already happened to my niece when i tried to fit her back there and now she hates me and my XKR now lol
#67
Just not the same
If you get a good look at a Maserati Gran Turismo,the car looks very sporty and good for its size and you can fit 4 people in it.But the XK looks very similar and should rival the body style of the Maserati.I really think the XK will look awesome if it looked a little bigger than what it is and most likely make more people fans of them cause they can get a more affordable exotic sports car when it becomes used if they go that route
#68
I’ll have to respectfully disagree. The GT Convertible looks good with the top down, but becomes a cumbersome clod with the top up. The 7” in wheelbase added to the rear seat, while functional in rear seat area, definitely changes the Grand Touring aspect of the car to me. While I understand the need to take the kids, a true Grand Tourer is 2 people in comfort going long distances in all situations imho. Worse, the Mas has a trunk sized for a roll of toilet paper, not luggage for 2, much less 4. 6 cu ft vs 10 cu ft!
#69
I have posted this before but this is me and my three adults kids in the XKR. We all had to compromise on space and I wouldn't inflict it on them for more than 15 or 20 minutes but you can actually fit full size adults in the back.
The main issue in the back of the coupe is headroom but that shouldn't be an issue in a convertible with the roof down.
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Barry Leftwich (02-12-2021)
#70
[QUOTE=u102768;2352834]I disagree. My kids have all grown up and flown the nest now but I used to regularly play taxi in my '07 XKR to my daughter and a friend or two when she was in her late teens.
I have posted this before but this is me and my three adults kids in the XKR. We all had to compromise on space and I wouldn't inflict it on them for more than 15 or 20 minutes but you can actually fit full size adults in the back.
The main issue in the back of the coupe is headroom but that shouldn't be an issue in a convertible with the roof down.[/QUOTE compromising space????????????lol The goal is to NOT compromise space at all where everybody can be seated comfortably for long trips or anywhere you need to go if you want to drive everybody in the XK.But we all know deep down that this is a sham and i'll tell you why...The seats in the back are fake and very uncomfortable,there is a lot of pain behind those smiles and they not fooling nobody lol,it's cringe worthy to hear your kids were enjoying themselves riding in the back of the XK.The car is very cool and that's why i have 1 and it's cool to feel lucky enough to ride in it,but the comfort zone for people in the back will always be something to laugh at if jaguar don't correct this in the next generation if they make them again.But on another note,If you can fit people in the back like that,it look like the Hard top got more leg room in it than the convertible do cause mine a convertible and you have to slide the seats all the way up to fit people in the back
I have posted this before but this is me and my three adults kids in the XKR. We all had to compromise on space and I wouldn't inflict it on them for more than 15 or 20 minutes but you can actually fit full size adults in the back.
The main issue in the back of the coupe is headroom but that shouldn't be an issue in a convertible with the roof down.[/QUOTE compromising space????????????lol The goal is to NOT compromise space at all where everybody can be seated comfortably for long trips or anywhere you need to go if you want to drive everybody in the XK.But we all know deep down that this is a sham and i'll tell you why...The seats in the back are fake and very uncomfortable,there is a lot of pain behind those smiles and they not fooling nobody lol,it's cringe worthy to hear your kids were enjoying themselves riding in the back of the XK.The car is very cool and that's why i have 1 and it's cool to feel lucky enough to ride in it,but the comfort zone for people in the back will always be something to laugh at if jaguar don't correct this in the next generation if they make them again.But on another note,If you can fit people in the back like that,it look like the Hard top got more leg room in it than the convertible do cause mine a convertible and you have to slide the seats all the way up to fit people in the back
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let me start off by saying you are really misinformed to grasp the concept of the discussion that was a whole other story to discuss the leg room for the next generation of the XK.Right now everybody is pretty much satisfied with the way the XK is cause that's just how they made and pretty much nothing you can do about it and it suits me just fine since i'm by myself most of the time anyway.But if i end up having a family of my own 1 day or something and i plan on getting the next generation XK if they make 1,i'm hoping the back seats finally become useful where everybody can seat comfortably
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Xk
From what I've heard this will be the case. But what worries me is what will be the price of the new XK? Look at the huge price tag of the F-Type + Jag now charging a fortune for equipment that came standard on the XK.
The all new XK could be the same price of the Aston Martin DB9, a very silly move...I expect most current XK owners bought their cars as they where great value for money, especially compared to rivals like the DB9.
The all new XK could be the same price of the Aston Martin DB9, a very silly move...I expect most current XK owners bought their cars as they where great value for money, especially compared to rivals like the DB9.
Xk is a good car to own I had nothing but fun driving a well made comfortable machine that lets the owner become part of it the comfort of the ride to be able to feel the road and drive. enjoying going where ever you want with a machine that just needs to be driven yes it’s has it’s problems mostly it’s driver error this is my daily driver even my boss tells me he doesn’t pay me enough money for me to own a Jaguar So I asked for a pay raise not gonna happen he is the Jorge Jefferson cheep *** man but I get in my car and forget everything I took automotive classes and do most of all my own repairs the xk is very EZ to fix not so complicated to work on this car is not for everyone if you don’t have any mechanical skills be ready to have a deep pockets and the love for this car *** thrilling *** ride in my motorcycle can’t compare but I enjoy just as much I feel blessed to be part of this forum to read your reviews and how you feel about a cars that just means so much to me but the XK was and is my dream car never give up on your cars be like Jhon wick with his mustang no matter how bad it is comes down to the love for your car.
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Barry Leftwich (02-13-2021)
#76
Many brands/models of GT cars have 2 effectively unusable back seats crammed in. MY understanding is this is solely because at some time in the US market only, that makes it qualify as "not a sportscar" so insurance is (or was originally) significantly cheaper.
If you look back at the original XK models they don't have back seats at all, and even as late as the E-type, the only ones that had them were the relatively rare "2+2" variant which was only ever popular in the US market. Sure when my son was 6 years old he could sit back there comfortably, but no normally size adult can, at least for anything more than a 5 minute trip and the passenger being happy to do without a lot of their legroom.
I think it's well understood that the XK was never actually intended to be a (generally usable) 4-seater. If anyone bought an XK thinking it was actually designed/intended to carry 4 adults comfortably and would fill that need, then sorry but they should have done their homework first, and probably should have bought an XJ instead.
If you look back at the original XK models they don't have back seats at all, and even as late as the E-type, the only ones that had them were the relatively rare "2+2" variant which was only ever popular in the US market. Sure when my son was 6 years old he could sit back there comfortably, but no normally size adult can, at least for anything more than a 5 minute trip and the passenger being happy to do without a lot of their legroom.
I think it's well understood that the XK was never actually intended to be a (generally usable) 4-seater. If anyone bought an XK thinking it was actually designed/intended to carry 4 adults comfortably and would fill that need, then sorry but they should have done their homework first, and probably should have bought an XJ instead.
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#77
Many brands/models of GT cars have 2 effectively unusable back seats crammed in. MY understanding is this is solely because at some time in the US market only, that makes it qualify as "not a sportscar" so insurance is (or was originally) significantly cheaper.
If you look back at the original XK models they don't have back seats at all, and even as late as the E-type, the only ones that had them were the relatively rare "2+2" variant which was only ever popular in the US market. Sure when my son was 6 years old he could sit back there comfortably, but no normally size adult can, at least for anything more than a 5 minute trip and the passenger being happy to do without a lot of their legroom.
I think it's well understood that the XK was never actually intended to be a (generally usable) 4-seater. If anyone bought an XK thinking it was actually designed/intended to carry 4 adults comfortably and would fill that need, then sorry but they should have done their homework first, and probably should have bought an XJ instead.
If you look back at the original XK models they don't have back seats at all, and even as late as the E-type, the only ones that had them were the relatively rare "2+2" variant which was only ever popular in the US market. Sure when my son was 6 years old he could sit back there comfortably, but no normally size adult can, at least for anything more than a 5 minute trip and the passenger being happy to do without a lot of their legroom.
I think it's well understood that the XK was never actually intended to be a (generally usable) 4-seater. If anyone bought an XK thinking it was actually designed/intended to carry 4 adults comfortably and would fill that need, then sorry but they should have done their homework first, and probably should have bought an XJ instead.
#78
If I had an F Type I would be restricted to one passenger whether I liked it or not. With the XK I have the option to fit up to four people in the car. It might not be totally comfortable for everyone but at least I can take more than one passenger if I have to. That has worked well for me and is why I am in my 8th year of driving an XKR.
Being a strict two seater is one of the things that holds me back about buying an F Type because my Jags are daily drivers, not toys. They need to fit my life style which includes occasionally taking more than one passenger and having a decent amount of rear storage for all my sailing gear when I go sailing.
#79
No doubt. The XK will become a 4 seater. The XK tried to be both which was it's disadvantage. Now with the F Type filling the roll of a sports car the XK can be allowed to grow in size. Judging by Ian Callums work on the last 4 Jag's I don't think we need to be concerned with how good it will look, and being aluminum it's won't grow much in weight. Look at the weight difference between a XJ and XJL. It's not noticable.
#80
Because they aren't fake! The person who started this thread did so because people like you can't see the point of the rear seats. Get yourself a family and you might actually understand.
If I had an F Type I would be restricted to one passenger whether I liked it or not. With the XK I have the option to fit up to four people in the car. It might not be totally comfortable for everyone but at least I can take more than one passenger if I have to. That has worked well for me and is why I am in my 8th year of driving an XKR.
Being a strict two seater is one of the things that holds me back about buying an F Type because my Jags are daily drivers, not toys. They need to fit my life style which includes occasionally taking more than one passenger and having a decent amount of rear storage for all my sailing gear when I go sailing.
If I had an F Type I would be restricted to one passenger whether I liked it or not. With the XK I have the option to fit up to four people in the car. It might not be totally comfortable for everyone but at least I can take more than one passenger if I have to. That has worked well for me and is why I am in my 8th year of driving an XKR.
Being a strict two seater is one of the things that holds me back about buying an F Type because my Jags are daily drivers, not toys. They need to fit my life style which includes occasionally taking more than one passenger and having a decent amount of rear storage for all my sailing gear when I go sailing.
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