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Old 05-25-2022, 04:44 PM
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I discovered a screw in my tire so I had discount tire order a new one. Once the tire arrived I took my car there and they yanked out the screw and said they wouldn't replace the tire unless it was leaking air. Thoughts? Does it look like it will be ok or should I take it to another location.



 
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Old 05-25-2022, 05:22 PM
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Tires shops are required to turn away any repairs that involve the outer shoulder section. They use a schematic which depicts areas of the tire to avoid. Generally, the center tread areas are acceptable depending how far away from the outer shoulder. Also the size of the puncture is a determining factor. Your puncture does look to be part of the tire shoulder. I wouldn't repair it even if you find a shop that will plug it. Not worth your life.
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 05:24 PM
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Tires shops are required to turn away any repairs that involve the outer shoulder section. They use a schematic which depicts areas of the tire to avoid. Generally, the center tread areas are acceptable depending how far away from the outer edge. Also the size of the puncture is a determining factor. Your puncture does look to be part of the tire shoulder. I wouldn't repair it even if you find a shop that will plug it. Not worth your life.

They didn't turn away the repair. They refused to replace the tire that I had just ordered under warranty because it wasn't leaking or "deep enough".
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 05:27 PM
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Do you happen to live in Las Vegas? Can't think of any other reason not to replace the tire....can you?
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 05:33 PM
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Do you happen to live in Las Vegas? Can't think of any other reason not to replace the tire....can you?
Haha I feel the same way. He also said he didn't need a patch or anything and it would be fine.
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:32 PM
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To your question, my money, my safety. Yes I would replace the tire then any warranty fight could come after they hand me the tire and it can be inspected from the inside. If I lose, I lose some money only. Now the fight becomes interesting given the tread wear on the tire in relation to the others. If I now have to buy two because the tread life, it raises the stakes but to me, I'm still replacing.
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:47 PM
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Road hazard warranties are only as good as the shop that issues them. I won't buy from a national chain -- I pay a bit more to get tires from a local shop because the owner is there and I can talk to him.
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 07:02 PM
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Honestly, that is deep enough and far enough on the shoulder, that I wouldn't risk it. I mean, one hard corner, under pressure or at speed...kabowi and you are gripping the wheel trying to keep from hitting the median.

Just my two cents.
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:18 PM
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How long was the screw . Did they remove the tire and look into the inside. If the steel mesh was not damaged then the tire will be OK at any speed.
 
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Old 05-25-2022, 10:41 PM
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That tire looks gone to me. Remember where you buy tires is the key to any warranty - so chose wisely. Might pay more - but it's worth it.
 
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jagtoes asked the right question, how long was the screw?
I’ve pulled stuff out of my tires that weren’t going to compromise the tire (nails, screws, wire). If it didn’t go deeper than the tire grooves, I wouldn’t worry about it at all. Deeper than the grooves starts to raise concerns.
 
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Old 05-26-2022, 01:46 AM
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I would want to know what tread depth is left on the tyre and what was the length of the screw. If the tyres still have 5mm or more tread depth and the screw length was similar to that measurement, then I would leave it alone.

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Old 05-26-2022, 03:38 AM
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I'm always interested in differences in vehicle safety regulations across the World and also how member perception varies so I'll pitch in with my experience on this issue.

I've had three similar instances over the years where a screw or nail has penetrated the tread but NOT the sidewall. Two of these happened in England and one in Spain. A tread repair could have a slow leak if not done properly but it's not going to cause a blow out. Sidewall damage is a totally different situation and is definite immediate replacement for me.

For tread punctures, in the UK it's common practice to dismount the tyre, deliberately make a clean hole and fit a mushroom plug from the inside. The plug has an adhesive base and sticks to the inside - the excess 'stalk' is trimmed level with the tread. In service, air pressure and centrifugal force presses the plug base onto the surface and I know from inspection at eventual tyre replacment time, those patches are never going to move.





I've felt perfectly safe with this kind of repair and never had any subsequent issues in either instance. One was on my Jaguar X308 and the other on my Bentley Continental GT. I didn't consider replacement was necessary in either case.

The third instance happened in Spain on my last XK which fortunately had a space saver spare. I took the wheel to one of the major tyre depots for repair and was horrified to be told:

1. they were NOT ALLOWED to do a repair
2. replacement tyres MUST be fitted as axle sets - 2 new tyres required

A second depot told me exactly the same so it wasn't a case of fleecing the tourist and demonstrated how very different regulations are in different countries. A 25 UKP repair at my local tyre depot against more than 1000 UKP for replacements in Spain.

I ordered an emergency repair kit from the UK and had it delivered to me in Spain. The repair was completely air tight until I got home and had it repaired professionally at my local depot.

Graham
 
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Got a small nail in my rear Michelin runflat just after I got my C8. had an internal patch installed and have 8K summer miles on it. Michelin allows for 1 internal patch as long as the defect is not within 1/12" from each edge or in a sidewall. No problem at any speed.
 
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i would repair that and keep driving on it.
 
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Your car, your money, your life, and your choice ... unless you endanger the life of your passenger(s) or others.

Even if others have told you that it's safe, they're not putting their lives at risk. I would replace that tire.
 
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Old 05-26-2022, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
Your car, your money, your life, and your choice ... unless you endanger the life of your passenger(s) or others.

Even if others have told you that it's safe, they're not putting their lives at risk. I would replace that tire.
I would replace the pair. Just not worth doing it half-assed with one tire.
 
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Originally Posted by CurtJ
Road hazard warranties are only as good as the shop that issues them. I won't buy from a national chain -- I pay a bit more to get tires from a local shop because the owner is there and I can talk to him.
My local dealer stopped doing tire warranties. Getting money from the insurer was too difficult and wasn't worth the little or no profit they offered the warranty to their customers. They charge the same as Tire Rack.
 
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If they Patched it and not plugged it you should be good! Discount Tire always have some bullsht rules that's why I stop going there. Before you purchase them they tell you about they lovely Warranty and Tire replacement. If you don't feel comfortable with tire send corporate a email and picture and telling them how you don't feel safe that will put pressure on store manager.
 
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