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Is the XKR a future classic?

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Old 12-09-2019, 10:55 AM
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I saw AGAIN within the last week that yet another "New XK Model" rumor has started. However, this time it was said to be an All Electric vehicle based on the XF chassis. Or, was it the XJ? I can't remember now.
 
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Old 12-09-2019, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
I saw AGAIN within the last week that yet another "New XK Model" rumor has started. However, this time it was said to be an All Electric vehicle based on the XF chassis. Or, was it the XJ? I can't remember now.
There is simply no market for a new XK vehicle. Too few buyers and too high in R&D and tooling costs. It just does not make any sense financially right now, nor in the near future.
 
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Originally Posted by tberg
Before we start getting all gushy...probably no other invention in history sped up the progression of mankind and improved the lives of so many in so short a period of time. Think about what has happened in the last 100 or so years as a result.
I think ole Benjamin Franklin with a little invention called electricity would give the automobile a run for it's mankind lifestyle progress & improvement money.
 
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:22 PM
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Franklin didn't invent Electricity.

Just like Al Gore didn't invent hot air.

 

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Old 12-09-2019, 01:52 PM
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I think the the invention of the automobile may have had one of the largest impacts on mankind. Before it, most of the world's population were born, lived and died within a 25 mile radius.
 
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Nope. Mankind can't exist without ...

 
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:45 PM
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I said invention Stuart. Otherwise, there's no denying and you're spot on.
 
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:49 PM
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I think Stuart is saying its something other than the need to chase our own tail, is the thing that shaped cars.
 
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:52 PM
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My better judgment stepped in and stopped me from posting my draft reply.
 
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Originally Posted by Tervuren
I'm surprised by your thinking this.
Vegas sits near one of the most famous sources of hydroelectric power in the U.S.
It has limited cloud cover and a decent altitude; good for solar.

What I want some day is a home generator system that stores hot water.
You run a liquid medium through the hot water as needed that is at a pressure such that the temperature difference flashes it into gas.
Then you pop this expanding gas through a turbine.

No need for a large environmentally costly battery array.
Instead you have a long lasting storage source in an insulated underground water vault.
If you use the solar to distil the water that goes in, you are also giving yourself a good emergency water supply.

Other projects sit in front of that, but maybe one day.
Vegas is run primarily on those crazy solar farms off the 15. The most of the dam power goes to CA and AZ.
 
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JagRag
There is simply no market for a new XK vehicle. Too few buyers and too high in R&D and tooling costs. It just does not make any sense financially right now, nor in the near future.
The sad truth.

 
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Old 12-10-2019, 01:00 AM
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Or any car other than a 2CV, millennials are quite broke you know and everyone else is buying a sensible SUV
 
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I first saw a 2CV in Monaco.
It looked much better than most of what was parked around it.

I had to make a check on what they are listed for in the U.S.
About $20K.

 
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Originally Posted by Tervuren
I had to make a check on what they are listed for in the U.S.
About $20K.
I had to google to see what a 2CV was....$20K? Really?
 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
...and everyone else is buying a sensible SUV
This is interesting in a way.

Sedans were killed by trying to make them sportier. Sure, I like sporty car but with that comes trade-offs - lack of internal room, harshness, bad gas mileage. People buy SUVs, but what they really after is land yachts with a lot of room inside.

Economy cars were killed by regulations - safety, emissions, mandatory equipment. If car manufacturers were allowed to make cars for 60s regs you would see sub $10K new economy cars being sold.

Minivans were killed by Dodge. Caravan is such a shitty and unreliable car that it poisoned the segment with "uncool". So only people that have to have them buy them now.
 

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Originally Posted by SinF
This is interesting in a way.

Sedans were killed by trying to make them sportier. Sure, I like sporty car but with that comes trade-offs - lack of internal room, harshness, bad gas mileage. People buy SUVs, but what they really after is land yachts with a lot of room inside.

Economy cars were killed by regulations - safety, emissions, mandatory equipment. If car manufacturers were allowed to make cars for 60s regs you would see sub $10K new economy cars being sold.

Minivans were killed by Dodge. Caravan is such a shitty and unreliable car that it poisoned the segment with "uncool". So only people that have to have them buy them now.
Bring back the station wagon! It was great for family vacations when I was a kid.
 
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Old 12-10-2019, 12:32 PM
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They have also made public motorsports highly illegal and impractical in many urban areas. To where it exists only as a delusion.
There will be no motorsports on a road with pedestrian, bicycle, scooter, priority, speed limit reduced to 25, full of Uber taxis. Cameras everywhere, including on the dash of the Prius you blow by and they report you.
And get this, people volunteering to have their insurance companies monitor them with ankle bracelet.
Just not the best of time to own a sports car.

The Etype was no delusion, you could drive it London to Brighton at very high speeds, and a need to. The need to be physically be anywhere fast has also been satisfied by internet.

 
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Originally Posted by kj07xk
Bring back the station wagon! It was great for family vacations when I was a kid.
Isn't that what an SUV is essentially? Paint em orange and you got yourself a fleet of school buses. Not talking about the crossovers mind you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w4P6vD5goc
 
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Old 12-10-2019, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kj07xk
I had to google to see what a 2CV was....$20K? Really?

For those that don't live near high speed interstates and autobahns it is a fundamentally excellent car.

It has lots of interesting features.
Self balancing wheels and tires for one.

The suspension setup also pitch levels the car when you hit bumps.
This is from a horizontal floating spring perch ruled by interconnected linkages of the front and rear suspension.

The suspension has immense travel which allows for an incredibly soft spring rate.

These cars are desirable enough to still have value despite its high production numbers.
It is a car that has had multi generational appeal.
 
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tervuren
For those that don't live near high speed interstates and autobahns it is a fundamentally excellent car.

It has lots of interesting features.
Self balancing wheels and tires for one.

The suspension setup also pitch levels the car when you hit bumps.
This is from a horizontal floating spring perch ruled by interconnected linkages of the front and rear suspension.

The suspension has immense travel which allows for an incredibly soft spring rate.

These cars are desirable enough to still have value despite its high production numbers.
It is a car that has had multi generational appeal.
I know everything has its fan base, so I shouldn’t knock it, but... it looks like an attempt to build a VW Beetle.... blindfolded.
I recall seeing a couple in France, looked like rentals, filled with college kids knocking about.
 


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