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NBCat 08-03-2015 10:16 PM

Pardon me, but changing the look of the X150 with a 'body-kit' is as questionable as giving Sophia Loren a facelift.

If one desires the look of the F-Type, why not simply purchase an F-Type and be done?

I apologise if I offend anyone with my opinion as styling, like women, is subjective...

BruceTheQuail 08-04-2015 12:17 AM

hmmm, agreed to some extent except that the XK was always going to evolve in looks, it was an 8 year old shape after all. So the f type front end looks pretty awesome, I also like the mock up because it reminds me of the Aston Zagatto. But the f type back end is not my cuppa. Nor is the ride, and the absence of room inside.


So the initial post was premised on that look being something that the XK could have evolved into, rather than being discontinued - or at least that was how I took it. On that front, I would have been in line for it.


I wouldn't necessarily want to take the front end off my car to put that one on as a mod, though.


So it isn't so much a question of would I give Sophia Loren a facelift, more along the lines of would I give her the boot to make room for Kate Upton.


Yes.

tberg 08-04-2015 12:42 AM

Hey Bruce,
I attended the "unveiling" premiere of the Aston Zagato a couple of years ago at Galpin Aston in Van Nuys, CA. I thought it was hideous looking, yet I agree with everything else you said. And as to customizing one's car, my feeling is why not make it your own creation unless you're purchasing as a future investment. When I put the F/X Design rear bumper/diffuser on my car, I just wanted to personalize it a little bit and give it a bit more aggressive look. I didn't like the front end package from the same company, but if there were a bolt on f-type front end that was reasonably priced, I'd be very tempted.

BruceTheQuail 08-04-2015 12:57 AM

Cheers. Over here the cars are so much more expensive that you are reluctant doing too much as a mod because they are harder to sell. A 2010 XKR still gets around $100K, and you'd peel off probably $40K of that doing something out there with it. Now if I was in the US, on the other hand, I'd go berserker and mod to my heart's content.


I don't look at mine as an investment, I generally look at losing about 20% per annum on the cost, but I still don't like copping it in the sphincter come trade in time, so I try to keep the mods subtle or reversible.

Queen and Country 03-21-2016 02:56 PM

Is this dead?

I think the colour is having an effect here. Dont know if the contrasts would be as complimentary in the other colors.

michaelodonnell123 03-21-2016 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NBCat (Post 1279834)
Pardon me, but changing the look of the X150 with a 'body-kit' is as questionable as giving Sophia Loren a facelift.

If one desires the look of the F-Type, why not simply purchase an F-Type and be done?

I apologise if I offend anyone with my opinion as styling, like women, is subjective...


I agree. The XK does not need a facelift. It is a timeless design that has stood the test of time. Just like the original e-Type. Just leave it alone and let it be. Putting on a silly bolt on body-kit will just ruin it. If you want the F-Type...then get an F-type. Changing a classic design for the sake of 'change' just doesn't make sense.


It does not get any better than this.

Tervuren 03-22-2016 12:34 PM

I do not think those parts are aluminum, in which case, the answer is no.

The cost of making that look in aluminum vs what the Xk has would be sub orbital. The XK's selling point is its aluminum body, going to fiberglass would be a little underwhelming.

The XK is to some extent a DB9 combed over for cost cutting measures in manufacturing. This includes the extremely flat hood relative to a piece of sheet metal, as well as the square flat fenders with very little 3d depth. (Huge savings onmold, pressing machine, run time, etc.)

I *do* like the look, the wrapping hood is really nice compared to the square XK's design, as is the floating spoiler.

It would of been nice to soften the hood hump, and make it longer, terminating in the nose instead of the hood.

mosesbotbol 03-22-2016 12:43 PM

XK could've used an updated transmission and little more finished rear under tray. Aston and Maserati have a more evolved rear diffusor which the Jag is just a plastic valance... I would've also like to have seen an LED gauge screen and more wood; especially on the door panels.

The outside shape is a home run and would still look fresh if it was relaunched with the above updates...

steve_k_xk 03-22-2016 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
XK could've used an updated transmission and little more finished rear under tray. Aston and Maserati have a more evolved rear diffusor which the Jag is just a plastic valance... I would've also like to have seen an LED gauge screen and more wood; especially on the door panels.

The outside shape is a home run and would still look fresh if it was relaunched with the above updates...

Couldn't have put it any better moses I love your ideas

steve_k_xk 03-23-2016 04:37 AM

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Found this on the front page of our forum today ...Think the designers at Jaguar just might have the 2+2 coupe covered .

Imagine this in a 2 door

Queen and Country 03-23-2016 11:41 AM

Look again, there is something special about this front end. No fundamentally its nothing like the Ftype!! The problem with all modern jag front ends is that there is a front lip. Not only does it make the car look needlessly long, on an already long car (XK) but it fights the natural lines and looks like a aftermarket kit. What is so incredible about this design is that its more nostalgic than the factory and less kitcar like. I think even the oval would look this good if it was sloping back (like in all the original jags). Bloodly clever this design. dont know if it makes the car airborne at high speeds (I doubt it) dont know what it does for safety. Damn its beautiful!

Shall we try with our ovals the same look?



https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/a...nnet-fytpe.jpg

NBCat 03-23-2016 11:46 AM

There is a saying frequently used by my American friends that applies in this instance: 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it!'

Queen and Country 03-23-2016 11:49 AM

I just studied the XK front bumper and realized why he used one from the Ftype. You cant make the bottom part tuck inwards and tapper the side. The Ftype you can do both. This is the best bumper. I bet it would make the Ftype look better than it does now.

Queen and Country 03-23-2016 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by NBCat (Post 1427819)
There is a saying frequently used by my American friends that applies in this instance: 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it!'

Hey dude, I needed to get back to you on a question you had about lowend torque on oversquare. Asked my friend, he says in the 80's they proved this in circletrack mag, they tried various combinations, it was the cam duration that determined torque the most. As you say cams are going to be the first thing to go in combustion engines, so there is hope for oversquare.

Pardon the thread hijack.

kj07xk 03-23-2016 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 1427816)
I think even the oval would look this good if it was sloping back (like in all the original jags).

Interesting observation. Maybe its just me, but after scrolling through the 'picture post thread', I still have the same impression, that the 07-09 cars (especially the XK's vs the XKR's) appear to have a slight slope to the oval. The later cars appear vertical, but the earlier ones appear sloped (have to check it out when I uncover mine in a couple of weeks), even with the protruding lower lip. Maybe its an illusion, created by the curvature from the fog lights on down.

Queen and Country 03-23-2016 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by kj07xk (Post 1427847)
Interesting observation. Maybe its just me, but after scrolling through the 'picture post thread', I still have the same impression, that the 07-09 cars (especially the XK's vs the XKR's) appear to have a slight slope to the oval. The later cars appear vertical, but the earlier ones appear sloped (have to check it out when I uncover mine in a couple of weeks), even with the protruding lower lip. Maybe its an illusion, created by the curvature from the fog lights on down.

Its not an illusion. They have been trying to flare-out the front end on every subsequent model after the original 07 xk. Each year protruding the chin and cheeks. It is in fact like plastic surgery on Bruce Jenner.

The etype and subsequent xk until this 150 generation all had front ends that were more torpedo shaped.

Tervuren 03-25-2016 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by Queen and Country (Post 1427851)
Its not an illusion. They have been trying to flare-out the front end on every subsequent model after the original 07 xk. Each year protruding the chin and cheeks. It is in fact like plastic surgery on Bruce Jenner.

The etype and subsequent xk until this 150 generation all had front ends that were more torpedo shaped.

It could also simply be mold deformation, there are tremendous forces at work here, and if you do not replace your molds, the shape changes.

Queen and Country 03-25-2016 08:56 AM

on the 2010+ they even added meaningless cheekbone like protusion to widen it. And meaningless air scoops on the lower sides to make the bottom part of the bumper as wide as the top. There are too many elements competing with each other.

This guy has done the opposite. There is only one element and focal point. everything else flows IN the direction of movement. Jaguar's design does not, it seems to want to fight the wind.

steve_k_xk 06-13-2016 04:03 AM

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XXXAngelXXX 06-13-2016 06:29 AM

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