XKR-S not selling?
#41
I guess I'm in the minority who bought the XKR-S and loves it just how it is. I wouldn't change a thing about it except for the tires it comes with and I did change out the front orange reflectors with Euro spec clear ones.
If you don't want the extra power and you don't like the looks of the rear spoiler I can't on earth imagine why you wouldn't have bought the standard XKR. The XKR-S is special and should be kept outrageous looking IMO. It's very unique looking and one of a kind. The rear spoiler is aggresive, functional, and since its a stock piece on an extremely limited edition car I personally don't think it falls into the boy racer category. I have always reserved that for the tacky high wing aftermarket installs on your corner store variety civic or eclipse.
Just my opinion.
If you don't want the extra power and you don't like the looks of the rear spoiler I can't on earth imagine why you wouldn't have bought the standard XKR. The XKR-S is special and should be kept outrageous looking IMO. It's very unique looking and one of a kind. The rear spoiler is aggresive, functional, and since its a stock piece on an extremely limited edition car I personally don't think it falls into the boy racer category. I have always reserved that for the tacky high wing aftermarket installs on your corner store variety civic or eclipse.
Just my opinion.
#42
That's because you have missed the whole point of the XKRS. It's more of a drivers car. The steering has been improved with quicker turn-in. The suspension spring rates have been increased to 28% front and 32% in back. The stability control system has been remapped to allow the driver to be more involved. The car has been lowered by 0.4". The throttle response is quicker. The shift points are more track oriented and probably a dozen other things all for the purpose of taking it to the track. Yes I do take mine to the track. The only place that Jaguar fell down was to give it goofy colors and a boy racer wing on the back. Of course that is a totally subjective thing. I owned an XKR before buying the XKRS. All of the issues that I had with the XKR they fixed with the XKRS. The only thing that I don't like about the XKRS is the wing. Otherwise I love it. That is why I bought the XKRS. Not for looks.
Oh please, don't begin to lecture me. I haven't missed the point of anything. Everything you have said is written about in the dozens of articles I've researched and read months before I made my purchase.
If anything, it is you who have missed the point of what this limited edition vehicle is about. It's supposed to look this way; its different, its bold, its FUNCTIONAL. Jaguar wouldn't have received a fraction of the attention and publicity (good or bad) it has received from this car if they would have made the upgrades and kept it in the regular XKR body. Looks have a LARGE role in the direction Jaguar is headed. You should have just bought the XKR with the dynamic pack, which already has all of the above minus what you call a boy racer wing, that way you wouldn't of had to neuter your own car.
I'm not trying to argue here because I could actually care less, but lets not patronize one another. Last I checked we all are driving Jaguars, and each for our own reasons.
Last edited by Matt in Houston; 08-29-2013 at 02:21 PM.
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#44
Oh please, don't begin to lecture me. I haven't missed the point of anything. Everything you have said is written about in the dozens of articles I've researched and read months before I made my purchase.
If anything, it is you who have missed the point of what this limited edition vehicle is about. It's supposed to look this way; its different, its bold, its FUNCTIONAL. Jaguar wouldn't have received a fraction of the attention and publicity (good or bad) it has received from this car if they would have made the upgrades and kept it in the regular XKR body. Looks have a LARGE role in the direction Jaguar is headed. You should have just bought the XKR with the dynamic pack, which already has all of the above minus what you call a boy racer wing, that way you wouldn't of had to neuter your own car.
I'm not trying to argue here because I could actually care less, but lets not patronize one another. Last I checked we all are driving Jaguars, and each for our own reasons.
If anything, it is you who have missed the point of what this limited edition vehicle is about. It's supposed to look this way; its different, its bold, its FUNCTIONAL. Jaguar wouldn't have received a fraction of the attention and publicity (good or bad) it has received from this car if they would have made the upgrades and kept it in the regular XKR body. Looks have a LARGE role in the direction Jaguar is headed. You should have just bought the XKR with the dynamic pack, which already has all of the above minus what you call a boy racer wing, that way you wouldn't of had to neuter your own car.
I'm not trying to argue here because I could actually care less, but lets not patronize one another. Last I checked we all are driving Jaguars, and each for our own reasons.
#45
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#47
Sorry you didn't know about the dynamic pack if that was all you wanted extra. You are right, could have saved a ton of money probably. I bought the XKR-S for the whole package, but since it was used it cost about as much as a new XKR.
Props to DGL for doing his home work, and best regards to you.
Last edited by Matt in Houston; 08-30-2013 at 11:01 PM.
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#51
I personally don't think Jag is after the traditional Jaguar buyer at all. I think their entire line up is going to shake up the market and I think we will see a lot of new buyers who never considered a Jag before, taking the plunge.
The XKR-S GT can hardly be called a production car, they made what, 30 of them? I read an article that said due to demand they may increase that to 50 cars. This car is not a money maker, its a publicity stunt and a way to increase public awareness of a new and aggressive Jaguar that is down to get dirty.
And I couldn't disagree more with amcdonal86, about the XKR-S looking silly...Granted I have an ownership bias and I understand that is his opinion with looks being largely subjective....But my experience owning the car has been the total opposite. Complete strangers have stopped me on several occasions in parking lots, gas stations, where ever I may be, to comment on how gorgeous this car looks. I have never had a car that gets so many compliments on its good looks than this one. As for performance, review after review comparing the XKR to the XKR-S states the improvements as largely welcomed and well worth the dough. Not that anyone should be worried about MSRP anyway, I picked up my '12 XKR-S for less than a '13 XKR, and I bet in less than 5 years my RS will be worth considerably more than that one year newer XKR, if simply because of its rarity.
I think the XKR-S, F-TYPE, XFR-S, and the new XJR are all creating waves of awareness in the direction Jaguar is headed...and if their future cars drive as good as my XKR-S does...I don't think there will be many more "not selling" threads for a long while.
This car looks and sounds amazing, and even better in person.
The XKR-S GT can hardly be called a production car, they made what, 30 of them? I read an article that said due to demand they may increase that to 50 cars. This car is not a money maker, its a publicity stunt and a way to increase public awareness of a new and aggressive Jaguar that is down to get dirty.
And I couldn't disagree more with amcdonal86, about the XKR-S looking silly...Granted I have an ownership bias and I understand that is his opinion with looks being largely subjective....But my experience owning the car has been the total opposite. Complete strangers have stopped me on several occasions in parking lots, gas stations, where ever I may be, to comment on how gorgeous this car looks. I have never had a car that gets so many compliments on its good looks than this one. As for performance, review after review comparing the XKR to the XKR-S states the improvements as largely welcomed and well worth the dough. Not that anyone should be worried about MSRP anyway, I picked up my '12 XKR-S for less than a '13 XKR, and I bet in less than 5 years my RS will be worth considerably more than that one year newer XKR, if simply because of its rarity.
I think the XKR-S, F-TYPE, XFR-S, and the new XJR are all creating waves of awareness in the direction Jaguar is headed...and if their future cars drive as good as my XKR-S does...I don't think there will be many more "not selling" threads for a long while.
This car looks and sounds amazing, and even better in person.
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Matt in Houston (09-01-2013)
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#55
Bottom line - three out of four of my Jaguar R cars have been completely trouble free. I had the spoiler come loose on one side on my S Type R but I can't remember any other problems with it. I have had my 2012 XKRS for over a year now and have not had one problem, not one rattle nothing. I can honestly say that all of my Jaguars have been the most trouble free cars that I have owned.
It sounds like you got one of the small percentage that have had trouble. That is unfortunate because Jaguar has worked very hard to loose the reputation (from the 60's) of being problematic by putting in world class quality control and they have accomplished their goal of making the best cars in the world.
Cheers!
#56
My XKR-S has also been 100% trouble free, almost 9,000 miles now.
By contrast, my daily driver Mini Cooper S had the A/C go out in the first year and was replaced under warranty. My wife's new Santa Fe had a recall to fix the A/C as well, which had a voltage or some type of resistor issue causing it to cut off while driving for no reason. Only way it would come back on was to turn the car off and restart.
Almost all cars have their issues eventually, but my Jag so far has been problem free. If a problem arises, hopefully it is under warranty or I will fix it. It's a part of automobile ownership that I will gladly pay to be able to drive a car of this caliber.
By contrast, my daily driver Mini Cooper S had the A/C go out in the first year and was replaced under warranty. My wife's new Santa Fe had a recall to fix the A/C as well, which had a voltage or some type of resistor issue causing it to cut off while driving for no reason. Only way it would come back on was to turn the car off and restart.
Almost all cars have their issues eventually, but my Jag so far has been problem free. If a problem arises, hopefully it is under warranty or I will fix it. It's a part of automobile ownership that I will gladly pay to be able to drive a car of this caliber.
Last edited by Matt in Houston; 09-08-2013 at 09:08 AM. Reason: There, their, they're.
#57
It sounds like you got one of the small percentage that have had trouble. That is unfortunate because Jaguar has worked very hard to loose the reputation (from the 60's) of being problematic by putting in world class quality control and they have accomplished their goal of making the best cars in the world.
Cheers!
Cheers!
#58
I would consider an XKR-S in the future if the the right price came around. I have a budget for a fun car and a 12 or 13 is out of my budget. Id only go french blue convertible.
FYI I have bad issues but the battery was old and replacing it was a pain (dealer screwed up) but other than that no prob!
FYI I have bad issues but the battery was old and replacing it was a pain (dealer screwed up) but other than that no prob!
#59
My local dealer (San Jose British Motors) has had two XKR-S sitting around for a long, long time (one white, one red). I noticed this morning both now have signs on them for $15,000 under sticker. Hard to believe here in Silicon Valley that a car like that wouldn't sell.
Offer me the name of your dealership there. I might want that red one if the interior and roof are to my liking.
#60
I know one thing Jaguar is doing wrong. At the place where I get my car serviced, they offer me the rental of an Enterprise POS.... If they want to get my interest in a new Jaguar, they should offer one as a rental when mine is being serviced.