Well, that was unnerving. <stall at speed>
#1
Well, that was unnerving. <stall at speed>
Driving on the freeway at about 70mph, left lane (of course).
Lost all engine power, although the rev counter was still showing some movement. I assume this is because the gearbox was in D. Made my way to the right shoulder, moved the shifter to N, then the revs dropped to zero and I got the ENGINE STALLED indicator (in case I hadn't noticed). CEL came on of course, but no other indicators or warnings.
Took the key out, sat for just a minute and had a talk with the car, then the coupe started right up. Only weird thing at startup was a short puff of white smoke from the exhaust...just lasted a second...never did it before, and hasn't since. Just at the one start after the stall.
Continued on through a spirited 40 mile drive perfectly.
I don't have the ability to get the codes read today, but I would think this is the old sticky butterfly in the throttle body? Yes? NOTE: This car had the original throttle body replaced by Jaguar a few years ago.
If so, what is the Jag Forum-Approved Method of cleaning the butterfly and throttle body bore? Any particular cleaners work best?
One last question: what is your opinion on the puff of white smoke at startup after the stall?
Thanks for your help, guys.
Lost all engine power, although the rev counter was still showing some movement. I assume this is because the gearbox was in D. Made my way to the right shoulder, moved the shifter to N, then the revs dropped to zero and I got the ENGINE STALLED indicator (in case I hadn't noticed). CEL came on of course, but no other indicators or warnings.
Took the key out, sat for just a minute and had a talk with the car, then the coupe started right up. Only weird thing at startup was a short puff of white smoke from the exhaust...just lasted a second...never did it before, and hasn't since. Just at the one start after the stall.
Continued on through a spirited 40 mile drive perfectly.
I don't have the ability to get the codes read today, but I would think this is the old sticky butterfly in the throttle body? Yes? NOTE: This car had the original throttle body replaced by Jaguar a few years ago.
If so, what is the Jag Forum-Approved Method of cleaning the butterfly and throttle body bore? Any particular cleaners work best?
One last question: what is your opinion on the puff of white smoke at startup after the stall?
Thanks for your help, guys.
#2
I found a great DIY on the forum on cleaning the throttle body, MAFS and part-load breather...thanks VERY much, MrTexasDan. My hat's off to you.
I'd still greatly appreciate the opinion of our experts on whether this sounds like a throttle sticking issue or not, and what the white puff of smoke was all about.
Thanks again.
I'd still greatly appreciate the opinion of our experts on whether this sounds like a throttle sticking issue or not, and what the white puff of smoke was all about.
Thanks again.
#3
#4
Truthfully, I don't really remember how the steering felt. I was just trying not to get creamed.
But, I didn't have to do any hard turns, just a gentle glide (across four lanes!) to the right shoulder..minimal steering action. So if it was heavier than normal, I may not have noticed.
Would your first assumption on this be the throttle body?
#5
Hi, I had this problem regular a couple of years ago, always around 70mph, but since I,ve sprayed the electrical connectors on throttle body with good quality contact cleaner as part of my routine maintenance, the problem has not occured. Thankfully!
Don,t know whether it,s just the removal and refitting of the connector thats done the trick but hey ho! worked for me.
Bob
Don,t know whether it,s just the removal and refitting of the connector thats done the trick but hey ho! worked for me.
Bob
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#7
Thanks, Skid.
Truthfully, I don't really remember how the steering felt. I was just trying not to get creamed.
But, I didn't have to do any hard turns, just a gentle glide (across four lanes!) to the right shoulder..minimal steering action. So if it was heavier than normal, I may not have noticed.
Would your first assumption on this be the throttle body?
Truthfully, I don't really remember how the steering felt. I was just trying not to get creamed.
But, I didn't have to do any hard turns, just a gentle glide (across four lanes!) to the right shoulder..minimal steering action. So if it was heavier than normal, I may not have noticed.
Would your first assumption on this be the throttle body?
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#9
I have had this scenario quite a few times, it has been caused from a variety of things, from air leaks to dodgy connections/throttle bodies.
Just FYI the steering goes heavy like a rock, the slower you get the harder it is to turn.
The puff of smoke could of been vapour that has been suggested, or possibly condensation burning off from inside the exhaust, I would not worry too much about that.
Just FYI the steering goes heavy like a rock, the slower you get the harder it is to turn.
The puff of smoke could of been vapour that has been suggested, or possibly condensation burning off from inside the exhaust, I would not worry too much about that.
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#10
There was a bit of traffic around, so I may have backed off the throtte just a bit as I came storming up on someone in the left lane (as I'm more likely to do now that I own this car!).
Power stayed on and gauges worked.
I bought some CRC throttle body cleaner and contact cleaner at NAPA last night...a good cleaning will be carried out over the weekend.
#11
Sudden Stall
Mine has done that twice this year. Usually when hit about 70 and within the first 5 - 7 miles of travel after a cold start. While rolling, I just popped trans into nuetral, and restarted, back into drive and would drive all day without another incudent. I will try the Air system cleaing as suggested.
#12
#13
For my particular car, I'm the new owner (and its last...I'll own it to my death). But the car has been well serviced by Jag dealers for most of its prior life, and I do believe that recall work was performed. This is the recall work that is indicated by a sticker on the driver's door pillar, is that correct?
In any case, I cleaned my throttle body bore (very dirty), MAFS, intake tube, full-load breather tube, and part-load breather orifice this past weekend. So far, I've only had the one stall, and I'm going to assume the problem is solved until the next cleaning, in 10,000 miles.
Thanks for your help.
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