1998 & 2001 XK8 Camber Kit needed
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Main dealer part, not a lot of money for a bag of washers
I've gone brain dead for a sec.... it does happens occaisionaly... Isn't the camber the eccentric bolt on the bottom, and the shims do the castor....
Let alone that are we talking back or front here??
If its front I would check the top shock mount first, not all XKs were fitted with eccentric bolts but easily obtainable.
I've gone brain dead for a sec.... it does happens occaisionaly... Isn't the camber the eccentric bolt on the bottom, and the shims do the castor....
Let alone that are we talking back or front here??
If its front I would check the top shock mount first, not all XKs were fitted with eccentric bolts but easily obtainable.
Last edited by XKRacer; 09-20-2011 at 03:26 PM.
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good Q's, xk, camber in the front and rear are addressed(if you can say that) very differently. Yes, caster in the front is adjusted with those stupid shims and washer combinations...I'm still trying to get their order right (i'm off by a few tenths) after dropping all of them on the passenger side when I pulled the front shocks and coils out for some suspension parts replacement.
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Camber
Back now. Sorry for not responding sooner. I had to attend to a family matter and had to put this topic in the trunk. Things have settled down for now.
XKRacer you are correct the Eccentric Fulcrum bolt is what I am searching. This is for the front camber. The top shock mounts are believed good according to my Jaguar mechanic.
You seem to indicate the bolts are easily obtainable. Can you point me to a source?
I understand for the most part the 1997-2006 XK8 share suspension parts.
XKRacer you are correct the Eccentric Fulcrum bolt is what I am searching. This is for the front camber. The top shock mounts are believed good according to my Jaguar mechanic.
You seem to indicate the bolts are easily obtainable. Can you point me to a source?
I understand for the most part the 1997-2006 XK8 share suspension parts.
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Ok maybe im missing something here. But are ya'll aware that the frame on this model yr range xk does not have slots and therefore you cannot use eccentrics. There is a offset bolt for the upper control arm but has very minimal change. The bigger issue is your upper shock mounts. Regardless of mileage the time kills them just as fast as mileage. I would bet cash that they collapsed if theyre original which drops ride height about a inch and also drops camber well into the negative red range. If you check the top and rub the foam thats exposed by the shock stud. If it crumbles, theyre bad. You can also check underneath with a flashlight peering up into the top shock cavity. you get a better view. Eccentric bolts were install in the front suspension in 2007 with the new xk (150) model and its corresponding suspension change
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I have come across many X100s with eccentric bolts, and you don't need slots, it works on the bush in the control arm, whenever I do a poly bush job I always mark them first as I wont know if they are eccentric or not until I take them out.
When Jaguar changed bushes they often changed the bolt to get the camber correct and used the eccentric bolts.
In typical Jaguar fashion
Standard Bolt JZB100085 approx $65
Eccentric Bolt JZB100086 approx $18
Yeah I know I cant understand Jaguar pricing half the time also!!
When Jaguar changed bushes they often changed the bolt to get the camber correct and used the eccentric bolts.
In typical Jaguar fashion
Standard Bolt JZB100085 approx $65
Eccentric Bolt JZB100086 approx $18
Yeah I know I cant understand Jaguar pricing half the time also!!
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Thanks for the replies. please clarify for me. Background: A 1998 XK8 with a VIN below 031302. The factory does NOT install the front-end Eccentric fulcrum bolts.
Question: Is Brutal saying the JZB 1000-86 bolts cannot be installed because there are no slots?
Thanks H20Boy, XKRacer and Brutal for your responses.
Question: Is Brutal saying the JZB 1000-86 bolts cannot be installed because there are no slots?
Thanks H20Boy, XKRacer and Brutal for your responses.
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okay i have a 99 xk8 on my lift right now. please healp me understand how the eccentric bolt with a offset washer will allow movement of the control arm and bushing when the frame hole is round and the bushing hole is round? the shoulders of the bolts are sized to fit the holes in the frame front and rear. When the cam/eccentric washer comes around to "WHAT" there are not only no slots, but no shoulders on the frame for the eccentrics to push against to even move the control arms?
also JZB 1000-86 IS an eccentric bolt I just pulled it out of parts and looked at it................... MJA 1455AD is the upper control arm fulcrum bolt. there is a offset bolt for this location to allow slight change as I stated earlier. I dont know the part number for this. Its obscure and Ive just spent too much time looking up stuff instead of fixing cars and making money. so that one will be for you to find. I ve used it before and it does not do much for suspension change which is why Ive never bothered with it again after the first time yrs ago........
also JZB 1000-86 IS an eccentric bolt I just pulled it out of parts and looked at it................... MJA 1455AD is the upper control arm fulcrum bolt. there is a offset bolt for this location to allow slight change as I stated earlier. I dont know the part number for this. Its obscure and Ive just spent too much time looking up stuff instead of fixing cars and making money. so that one will be for you to find. I ve used it before and it does not do much for suspension change which is why Ive never bothered with it again after the first time yrs ago........
Last edited by Brutal; 10-12-2011 at 01:09 PM. Reason: EDIT CAUSE I LEARNED SOMETHING :):)
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The shoulder of the bolt is what goes into the subrame, the end of the bolt is concentric with the shoulder, the section in the middle goes through the bush, this means when you turn the bolt the control arm moves in and out....
This pic is of a concentric bolt, I cant be asked to check my own XK as you need to drop the steering rack to get to them.
Does that make sense??
This pic is of a concentric bolt, I cant be asked to check my own XK as you need to drop the steering rack to get to them.
Does that make sense??
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Well son of a beech. I see now and went back and looked at that bolt. It is indeed offset. But i must say, that sure isnt gonna allow much adjustment at all compared to the later washered eccentrics on the x150 suspension. But maybe those couple with the uppers would give alittle more than by themselves. This is what cuaght my eye on this thread. I do learn stuff here too, many times its stuff that just isnt out there like it should be. Like i said earlier i just couldn't wrap my head around a non slotted adjustment, but now.............
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Sorry to open an old thread but my last oil change i had my shop check out the suspension because I have a noise sometimes on rough roads. They told me I need a new fulcrum bolt and i think bushings. Reading this it seems like i can get the eccentric bolt and some bushings or maybe bearings ( read that somewhere but i don't think it has bearings) to fix. Just need to know some more info before I drop $500 for something i might be able to do or get the parts cheaper.
Thanks for the help!!
Thanks for the help!!
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There are 2 basic things on a xk8 that make noise over bumps and neither are the lower bushings(i said primarily)
1) upper front shock mounts(i dont exactly call them bushings but yes that is the part that collapses and the front sounds like a 4x4 hitting it over bumps)
2) front sway bar bushings(especially the right, pass side u.s.) below the often leaking power steering coupler.
1) upper front shock mounts(i dont exactly call them bushings but yes that is the part that collapses and the front sounds like a 4x4 hitting it over bumps)
2) front sway bar bushings(especially the right, pass side u.s.) below the often leaking power steering coupler.
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The bolt is a good 4+ inches long. For the '98 XK8 removing the bolt requires dropping the steering rack.
I also learned that the 2001 XK8 comes with fulcrum bolts from the factory. The way to tell is to look for a raised mark on the bolt head.
The 1998 XK8 did and did not come from the factory with the fulcrum bolt. You need to check the VIN and the bolt head for the raised mark.
I also learned that the 2001 XK8 comes with fulcrum bolts from the factory. The way to tell is to look for a raised mark on the bolt head.
The 1998 XK8 did and did not come from the factory with the fulcrum bolt. You need to check the VIN and the bolt head for the raised mark.