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Old 10-22-2011, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by avos
If you have a look you will see where to leaver it against, its obvious.
You might be right if you have a double ribbed belt on a 4.0 car, have not done one of these.
Sorry if you feel offended that wasn't my intention, I only saw this post this morning CET time...
avos I not offended in anyway..I have only had my car for 12 months and as you know if you go to stratstone or any jag main dealers you can go bankrupt..I am only an amature at car repairs an decided to do my sqeeling problem myself.and managed to cure it..I had to scatch my head a few times..but the double sided belt option is not as easy as the standard belt job..hope i have not offended you but my brain is sometimes ahead of reason
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:33 AM
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Am not offended in any way, and I also started as an amature, and probably still am for some ;-)
 
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Old 10-22-2011, 07:40 AM
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I bought the belt tensioner releasing tool from a site called Handsontools.com (Ford Motorcraft part 303-631) for about a hundred bucks and changed just my belts (supercharger and main accessory belt) as per AVOS`s instructions. It took a bit of fiddling with the belts but I changed both without removing anything, I first raised the hood to the "service position". To me, it was worth the money to buy the tool and save myself the hassle of removing the fans. It helps greatly to have another person help you to keep tension on the release tool so you can remove and replace the belts.
 
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by plums
That may be because you made the following statement:



Nowhere in that post do you qualify it with any caveat that the statement only applies to a car that has the double sided assembly upgrade.

As neither the OP, who originally started the thread exactly 1 year ago, and jagxkrtoofast who resurrected the thread yesterday mention the double ribbed assembly it is likely that they have the originals. Especially as they are now just running into the squealing problem.

In that context, the replies are quite valid.
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Old 10-23-2011, 11:39 AM
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Don't take any offense, I don't know about the double sided assembly upgrade. But I read about tools that they made just for this application a while ago. I read from Avos, Brutal and a few other techs that they have fabricated tools for this procedure cutting the time down to minutes instead of hours. Since I plan on keeping this car It was the logical choice to either buy or fab one. Just remember when you say something to the effect "That's it's not possible", make sure you're correct, and if is is impossible somebody will figure out a way to make it possible.
 
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:45 AM
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Don't take any offense, I don't know about the double sided assembly upgrade. But I read about tools that they made just for this application a while ago. I read from Avos, Brutal and a few other techs that they have fabricated tools for this procedure cutting the time down to minutes instead of hours. Since I plan on keeping this car It was the logical choice to either buy or fab one. Just remember when you say something to the effect "That's it's not possible", make sure you're correct, and if is is impossible somebody will figure out a way to make it possible.
this is a picture of the space between the fan and sc belt tentioner and there is about a quarter of and inch space..impossible to get a drive in..fan *** MUST come out
pictures didnt upload..working on it
 
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:58 AM
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I can only see your car in your sig ;-)
Actually, 1/2" is enough, and you can push the fan a little bit away, so not really an issue. But, and here is where I can't tell if it will work, the double sided belt is a little thicker and might be harder to squeeze out on a 4.0 car. The 4.2 cars have a thinner fead belt pulley (behind the SC belt pulley), and here it will be easier to get the double sided belt out.
 
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by avos
I can only see your car in your sig ;-)
Actually, 1/2" is enough, and you can push the fan a little bit away, so not really an issue. But, and here is where I can't tell if it will work, the double sided belt is a little thicker and might be harder to squeeze out on a 4.0 car. The 4.2 cars have a thinner fead belt pulley (behind the SC belt pulley), and here it will be easier to get the double sided belt out.
can you see my pictures now?the one i used first were to big to upload
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:34 AM
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Now I can see them, and there is enough room from what I can see.
Here is a picture of the tool I made, that wil slide in nicely:

 
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Old 10-24-2011, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by avos
Now I can see them, and there is enough room from what I can see.
Here is a picture of the tool I made, that wil slide in nicely:

yes..i think that may fit..
 
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:08 AM
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I HAVE NOT tried this, but it looks like this tool might work: JEGS Performance Products 80565 JEGS Serpentine Belt Tool
 
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:31 AM
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For the sake of argument I replaced my belt twice, tensioner and idler without removing the fan housing. To release the tension on the tensioner I used a socket and a breaker-bar to remove the belt, socket and ratchet for the tensioner and idler. This R&R can take place in less than 1 hour on a 4.0 non-super charged engine. Belt Tentioner

I guess the question is can it be replaced without removing the fan assembly yes on a 4.0. As for the 4.2 I am unable to answer that question because I never did it. If you elect to remove the fan housing place a cardboard over the radiator to prevent accidental contact. Damage to the radiator could make you regret you ever took this project on. I hope this helps.
 
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Old 10-24-2011, 08:25 AM
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Dennis
Your clearance looks like mine there is not much room but Avos is right the fan assembly will move slightly to allow it The only difference between Avos's tool and mine is I offset it so you would come in from the side instead of from the top. It really is a time saver and if you can get one it's well worth the money.




 
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:39 AM
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As we seem to be comparing tools I thought I might as well post my own creation up.



Lightening holes for extra speed





I turned mine up and then milled a 1/2 inch square on it, drilled a hole in a piece of 2 X 1/4 X 24 long, pressed it in, turned it until I got the correct angle and then welded it up, works a treat
 
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Apologies for bumping a really old thread, but I am thinking of replacing my accessory belt and so was interested to read the input here. My question basically is why does the specialist tool cost so much when it appears to be just a metal bar with a 1/2" bit on the end?

Also, somebody above mentioned it's being a Ford Motorcraft part - does this mean it's available from Ford dealers, of which there are a lot more than Jaguar here in France.
 

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Old 03-20-2013, 11:52 AM
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I just replied to your other post I was trying to find this one. Here's a tool Just look up serpentine belt tool a lot of hits will come up

Performance Tool Serpentine Belt Tool, Model# W84010 | Specialty Tools| Northern Tool + Equipment
 
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I have a serpentine belt tool from Advance Auto that has multiple bits and a low profile. What a lot of folks have missed is that the fan assmbly has a lift mechanism that allows it to be raised and locked in position to clear the SC tensioner. Just look at both sides for the slot in the housing with a securing bolt. Just loosen these two bolts, lift the housing about 1 1/2" and retighten the bolts. The tool will then access the tensioner. After the belt change, just drop the housing back down.
 
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:45 AM
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Frog - I changed my belts recently and purchased a serpantine belt removal tool from my local auto factor. It is a Laser Tools item, their part no. 3757 and you should be able to pick one up for about £25 although I got lucky and paid less than a tenner for mine as it had been sitting in their stores for a while and I have a trade account.

It works fine and for a first attempt I had both belts off in about 10 minutes and no, you don't have to remove the fan pack.

Hope this helps.

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