Bent Montreal Wheel
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Though costly, l think replacement is your best option. The trim rings are very thin and don't give you much meat to play with as far as repair is concerned.
#3
Welcome to the forums daniellalli,
I agree with baxtor. The metal is very thin and impossible to remove all but minor damage.
Trim rings are expensive and becoming increasingly difficult to source. However, Montreal wheels have always been prized and you may consider it is worth a replacement ring. I know some members have been unable to source the rings in the US and have used this supplier in the UK:
https://www.sbwheels.store/product-p...placement-trim
Graham
I agree with baxtor. The metal is very thin and impossible to remove all but minor damage.
Trim rings are expensive and becoming increasingly difficult to source. However, Montreal wheels have always been prized and you may consider it is worth a replacement ring. I know some members have been unable to source the rings in the US and have used this supplier in the UK:
https://www.sbwheels.store/product-p...placement-trim
Graham
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daniellalli,
There is a UK specialist that ships to USA.
https://www.jagwheeltrims.co.uk/index-2.html
I had my Detroit Trim ring refurbished. They examined my bent ring and were able to save it. First they disassembled from wheel (it was bonded) and then correct the deformity before a re-polish (see website). They explained that the original BBS trim rings are thicker gauge and bonded onto an Aluminium substrate which makes them much stronger than the new replacements. Therefore, if at all possible, seek out the repair option first.
There is a UK specialist that ships to USA.
https://www.jagwheeltrims.co.uk/index-2.html
I had my Detroit Trim ring refurbished. They examined my bent ring and were able to save it. First they disassembled from wheel (it was bonded) and then correct the deformity before a re-polish (see website). They explained that the original BBS trim rings are thicker gauge and bonded onto an Aluminium substrate which makes them much stronger than the new replacements. Therefore, if at all possible, seek out the repair option first.
Last edited by PKWise; 11-08-2021 at 02:38 PM.
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The Problem with Jaguar Wheel Trims in the UK is:
About 4 years ago I ordered 2 new SS Trims for my Montreal Wheels and got Aluminum rather than S/S......The edges were not rounded and they were just a joke....So, Buyer beware!
If they are not to Bad, you can use a Rasp or a File and smooth them down and then use Body Sandpaper to smooth the Marks out until they Shine...They are S/S after all.....Just can't straighten them out if they are Bent a bunch! But you can do away with Curb-Rash by doing this!
Billy Clyde @ Cinco Ranch
About 4 years ago I ordered 2 new SS Trims for my Montreal Wheels and got Aluminum rather than S/S......The edges were not rounded and they were just a joke....So, Buyer beware!
If they are not to Bad, you can use a Rasp or a File and smooth them down and then use Body Sandpaper to smooth the Marks out until they Shine...They are S/S after all.....Just can't straighten them out if they are Bent a bunch! But you can do away with Curb-Rash by doing this!
Billy Clyde @ Cinco Ranch
Last edited by bcprice36; 11-09-2021 at 09:22 AM.
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By chance, I just installed a new trim ring on a 19” Montreal today.
Obtained from SB Wheels. Very quick delivery to the wet coast and well packed.
Complete with instructions, and a replacement O ring for the Schrader valve hollow bolt.
Easy to replace. In case you are unsure, the tire stays on the rim (barrel). Its just the center (spider) that is unbolted from the rim using an 8mm splined bit.
Worst part of the job is removing the trim to rim adhesive. Once done, apply a bead of silicone adhesive (some don’t bother) then the bolts are coated with Loctite Blue and tightened to 15Nm maximum. This is at the lower range of most 3/8” torque wrenches. If a problem try to borrow lower duty torque wrench and maybe convert to inch/pounds.
Obtained from SB Wheels. Very quick delivery to the wet coast and well packed.
Complete with instructions, and a replacement O ring for the Schrader valve hollow bolt.
Easy to replace. In case you are unsure, the tire stays on the rim (barrel). Its just the center (spider) that is unbolted from the rim using an 8mm splined bit.
Worst part of the job is removing the trim to rim adhesive. Once done, apply a bead of silicone adhesive (some don’t bother) then the bolts are coated with Loctite Blue and tightened to 15Nm maximum. This is at the lower range of most 3/8” torque wrenches. If a problem try to borrow lower duty torque wrench and maybe convert to inch/pounds.
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Guys,,,
,I was not talking about SB Wheels or Coventry West...They are both OK! But the other one "Jag Wheel Trims" is the one I got the Aluminum Rings from! Mr. Wise is in England, so he probably got the real thing...Sounds like he took the wheel to them...
Billy Clyde
,I was not talking about SB Wheels or Coventry West...They are both OK! But the other one "Jag Wheel Trims" is the one I got the Aluminum Rings from! Mr. Wise is in England, so he probably got the real thing...Sounds like he took the wheel to them...
Billy Clyde
Last edited by bcprice36; 11-10-2021 at 04:54 PM. Reason: Made a correction
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After replacing a trim ring I have concluded that it is easier to do that than deal with a scrunched alloy rim.
A real issue is tire widths. My 255 35 Nitto’s are barely 9.5” overall width which leaves little protection for the rim. See this all the time on newer cars. Nuts.
I have some Yokohama 255 35 that are 10.5” width, Seems to be a variation between brands and models. The Michelin Pilots seem to be about 10.2”
+ to the comment by BC above. My old trim ring was mildly scrapped. Tapped out the dents from the inside. Smooth file to removed damage marks. 400 wet or dry then 2000, metal polish and wax. The stainless is soft so no power tools of buffers needed. Now have a perfect spare.
A real issue is tire widths. My 255 35 Nitto’s are barely 9.5” overall width which leaves little protection for the rim. See this all the time on newer cars. Nuts.
I have some Yokohama 255 35 that are 10.5” width, Seems to be a variation between brands and models. The Michelin Pilots seem to be about 10.2”
+ to the comment by BC above. My old trim ring was mildly scrapped. Tapped out the dents from the inside. Smooth file to removed damage marks. 400 wet or dry then 2000, metal polish and wax. The stainless is soft so no power tools of buffers needed. Now have a perfect spare.
Last edited by XJR-100; 11-11-2021 at 03:46 PM.
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Ok so I have Detroit rims which look very nice and are in great shape except I am missing several bolts (5) from the front passenger side and at least one from each of the others. Is this a safety issue? Would this throw the balance off? And of course I don't have the air valve so I will have to get those as well.
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As I look at the bolts on the passenger front I noticed the bolt holes don't line up and that's why they are missing. I feel really stupid that I didn't question that before I bought the car. However, I called the previous owner and asked what was the deal here and he said that they had to 'match up' a new barrel with the star but that they couldn't find one that matched up perfectly but that the wheel is structurally sound and balanced. I have to say that this bothers me. Not sure what to do at this point...replace the wheel?
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Sounds odd that there are missing bolts from all wheels. What gives? I can see a problem happening to one but all four? These titanium bolts have a habit of seizing in the hole and break off. Could that be the true issue? But these only need to be unscrewed if separating the two wheel halves. Only time I can see that necessary is to true the wheel from damage or replacing a trim ring. But all four? Again, an email to Steve Gray in the UK could be very productive. He is VERY helpful and responsive.