Block took a dump
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Took the cat for gas,misfire and white oil smoke,no over heating,no low oil,internals are fine,the dealership says the block is spider cracked at casting marks and the 4.0 block is junk,known to crack all over for no reason and fail inside and out. I'm con fused,jaguar said they are not replacing my block free even after admitting to this defect,and telling me not to fix it as its a very common problem and calling this a unfixabled event, any opinions lol,I can get a block for 100.00,and put my internals inside, but am concerned, as the block can't be machined to ease my mind, due to jaguar's clever engineering rip off artist.
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It's externally spidered all over casting marks, oil pouring out the spidered casting marks,externally and internally.They showed the external cracks and leaks to me,then used a camera in the spark plug hole to show cracks in the cylinder walls and nikasal lining failure.the car only has 117kk,apparently this is nothing new to them.
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It's externally spidered all over casting marks, oil pouring out the spidered casting marks,externally and internally.They showed the external cracks and leaks to me,then used a camera in the spark plug hole to show cracks in the cylinder walls and nikasal lining failure.the car only has 117kk,apparently this is nothing new to them.
Something doesn't add up.
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the manager asked me to contact customer service and create a case, they might replace the block free, as there is a tsb and known issue on the nikasal liner and some defective block castings put in UK p tI'll late 2000,my car is a early unit.I'll keep y'all up to date. And ask to take pics.
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I had a few POROUS block problems with the V8 4.0 to deal with back in the early 2000s.
Most were revealed in warranty so the owner was compensated with a replacement engine.
I have NO IDEA what Make Model Year you are talking about but good luck!!!!!
Mystery cars are so hard to diagnose.
bob gauff
Most were revealed in warranty so the owner was compensated with a replacement engine.
I have NO IDEA what Make Model Year you are talking about but good luck!!!!!
Mystery cars are so hard to diagnose.
bob gauff
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I had a few POROUS block problems with the V8 4.0 to deal with back in the early 2000s.
Most were revealed in warranty so the owner was compensated with a replacement engine.
I have NO IDEA what Make Model Year you are talking about but good luck!!!!!
Mystery cars are so hard to diagnose.
bob gauff
Most were revealed in warranty so the owner was compensated with a replacement engine.
I have NO IDEA what Make Model Year you are talking about but good luck!!!!!
Mystery cars are so hard to diagnose.
bob gauff
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The nikasil issue is very well documented and affected several OEMs, not just Jag. It was no 'secret'. The warranty policy tidily took care of affected cars.
Your 'mechanic' is mixing bits of several different, unrelated stories together and coming up with a nice conspiracy theory.
Your 'mechanic' is mixing bits of several different, unrelated stories together and coming up with a nice conspiracy theory.
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The nikasil issue is very well documented and affected several OEMs, not just Jag. It was no 'secret'. The warranty policy tidily took care of affected cars.
Your 'mechanic' is mixing bits of several different, unrelated stories together and coming up with a nice conspiracy theory.
Your 'mechanic' is mixing bits of several different, unrelated stories together and coming up with a nice conspiracy theory.
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its a agreement with the service manager no warranties and jaguar, they called me at 3:12pm today, and my information is in the computer system, deal good for 6 months, . oh.. Yea parts and labor,I'm going to a local Indy that services only jaguars and certain imports, these guys done something to my car, I know they had to.The techs say they see this all the time, but refuse to provide me documents,stay away from the dealerships!!!!!
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its a agreement with the service manager no warranties and jaguar, they called me at 3:12pm today, and my information is in the computer system, deal good for 6 months, . oh.. Yea parts and labor,I'm going to a local Indy that services only jaguars and certain imports, these guys done something to my car, I know they had to.The techs say they see this all the time, but refuse to provide me documents,stay away from the dealerships!!!!!
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Aluminum block, steel sleeves.
Something is just not right here. The key issue is why they are 'warranting' the block after 15 years. That has never surfaced before. A short block for $5k is about the cost of a replacement engine, parts and labor.
You may be getting a good deal or you may may not be getting such. It is not clear at this point.
Something is just not right here. The key issue is why they are 'warranting' the block after 15 years. That has never surfaced before. A short block for $5k is about the cost of a replacement engine, parts and labor.
You may be getting a good deal or you may may not be getting such. It is not clear at this point.
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If your indy is offering you a used engine with no warranty for $3150, I'd take the dealer's offer any day.
Jags have had aluminum engines since 1984ish.
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Aluminum block, steel sleeves.
Something is just not right here. The key issue is why they are 'warranting' the block after 15 years. That has never surfaced before. A short block for $5k is about the cost of a replacement engine, parts and labor.
You may be getting a good deal or you may may not be getting such. It is not clear at this point.
Something is just not right here. The key issue is why they are 'warranting' the block after 15 years. That has never surfaced before. A short block for $5k is about the cost of a replacement engine, parts and labor.
You may be getting a good deal or you may may not be getting such. It is not clear at this point.
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Ok . . . stop . . . .
All Jaguars were imported to the US . . . many were corporate leases . . . not part of the discussion.
We have a communications problem.
What is the dealer proposing to do?
Where did the Indy come in and what is his proposal?
Keep it that simple.
Still think it is a head gasket.
All Jaguars were imported to the US . . . many were corporate leases . . . not part of the discussion.
We have a communications problem.
What is the dealer proposing to do?
Where did the Indy come in and what is his proposal?
Keep it that simple.
Still think it is a head gasket.
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Indy confirmed the car only has a bad head gasket,most oil on the block castings is old oil from a previous valve cover leaking,not new oil,the ac boss is cosmetic.The marks on the cylinderwalls are normal looking to him.He cleaned the block off with a pressure washer and confirmed its completely fine.My coolant level is fine and clean,oil lev a quart lowdue ti gasket,engine is fine.New gaskets are being ordered with new bolts as we speak. He is overbooked and working late hours, but said my lower crank dampner is stuck,so he is letting penetrating oil sit overnight. Charge is $1750, parts and labor.And about a 4 week wait, as the dampner put me behind other cars that was there before me.The dealer is bad business, they lost me as a customer,my car was running awesome before this.
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