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Old 11-02-2011, 09:51 AM
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Warning, this is a long post, but I thought this might be of interest to many of you, so I included a lot of detail.
I have completed (mostly) the build and installation of my in-car infotainment system, or Car PC. Essentially, I removed the factory head unit, 6 disc CD changer, and amplifier, and installed a computer system which hosts and integrates many entertainment and information functions all within a single interface, with touch screen capability.
Below is a detailed description of the system. I will say up front, this is not for everyone. From the perspective of changing the factory look and configuration of a stock Jaguar, many people would not want to do this, and I understand and appreciate that. Also, this was a LOT of work. I spent about 20 hours of time in prepping the installation, which included: researching software & hardware options, purchasing, and then building the hardware and installing the software, and getting it all configured the way I wanted. I then spent about 12 hours removing the factory stereo, amplifier, cd changer, necessary interior trim, then installing the wiring (VGA/USB & misc cables from trunk to dash) wiring the amps and power etc., and relocating the center console switch panel (I will explain later), and finally, about 5 hours of building from scratch a new “bezel” for the center console. I would say I spent at least 40 hours on this. And BTW, total cost: approx. $1000, possibly more, I don’t really want to add up all the $.
There are several hardware options for such a system, but the 2 main categories are “PC” and “Tablet”. I chose PC mainly because of the flexibility and “front end” integration. This was a personal choice I made. I am sure many people would choose to go with a tablet based system for many reasons, especially ease of installation. As well, I believe that the future of such systems will likely include more functionality from software vendors for tablets, and tablet systems will become more prevalent than they are today.
My PC is built with an Intel Atom system board with built-in everything (VGA, SATA IDE, wired Ethernet, 6 USB ports, High Definition Audio, and more). This is a mini-ITX system board, which is housed in a case approx. 11 inches long, 8 inches wide, 2 inches tall. I have 2 gig ram and an 80 gig SSD hard drive (SSD is more expensive, but much faster, and more durable since there are no moving parts like traditional hard drives). I use a 12 volt to 12 volt intelligent power supply made for car PC’s. This power supply can operate with input voltages from 6 volts to 24 volts; and is designed to handle power spikes. Also, the supply has an input sensor, which when wired to an “ignition on” source, will power up the computer, and when the ignition switch is off, will send a signal to the system board to either gracefully shut down Windows (I am running Windows7) or will go into sleep or hibernation mode, depending on system settings. When in hibernation or sleep mode, the supply also monitors the cars’ battery voltage, and if it drops below a certain level it will force the system board into shutdown and will completely power off the PC to avoid draining the car battery. I have my system set to shut down Windows when the ignition switch is turned off. The power supply has a configurable delay option. Mine is set to wait 20 seconds when the ignition switch is turned off, then it sends a shutdown signal and Windows shuts down normally, and then then the power supply shuts off. I have it set this way because I have been able to configure the PC to be on and working fully in about 17 seconds, which I think is quite reasonable.
For the radio, I use an HQCT-i USB AM/FM radio. This is a hardware piece mounted inside the PC case and uses one of the internal USB ports. It is not a typical external USB device. I also installed a Garmin 18X USB satellite antenna for GPS, and Garmin Mobile PC software on the PC. Oh, and I had to replace the factory Alpine amplifier in the trunk. I installed two, 200 watt amplifiers, one for the 6 front speakers (2 lower door, 2 dash, 2 tweeters on the doors), and the other amp for the 2 rear speakers. I chose 2 amps so that I have the flexibility to adjust balance front to back, and the amps have I used have built in low pass filters (switchable from normal to low pass). I use the low pass for the rear speakers. Lastly, I used a Lilliput 7 inch 450nit touch screen monitor.
The “front end” software is what integrates all of the application functions into one system, rather than using “windows” to run various functions. I chose to use Centrafuse. There are a few front-end systems out there to choose from. Centrafuse is a combination of several functions into one, for instance: it has a built-in media player, which plays MP3’s (and other music formats) and video. It controls volume and screen brightness. It controls how Windows will act when the ignition switch is off. It also has built-in functionality for Bluetooth support, including hands free phone integration. Centrafuse also integrates many shelf software, such a Garmin Mobile GPS (Centrafuse can be purchased with a NAV module – but I chose to use Garmin). One of the key features of Centrafuse and the integration it offers with these different systems, is that it auto-switches between the different functions as needed. For example, when listening to music, either radio or MP3 etc., and a phone call comes in, it auto-mutes the music, pops up the phone screen showing who is calling (integration to the phone’s address book available) and allows the call to be ignored or answered. If answered, the audio comes through the car speakers. The same thing happens with the GPS. If in navigation mode and the GPS voice routing comes on, Centrafuse mutes all other audio, and pops up the GPS map screen.
Other functions of Centrafuse: with 3G or 4G internet connectivity, it can be set up to read (TTS text to speech) email, txt messaging, etc.; voice commands to control Centrafuse; Integration into a Bluetooth ODBII interface; and much more capability.
As you can see in the photo of the dash where the touch screen is installed, it is located in the space where the factory radio was installed; but also, above the radio is a row of buttons for traction control/heated seats/fog lights, and emergency flashers. That button panel has been relocated to the glove box. Again, I know this may turn off many people, but I felt this was the best option for me. The relocation required me to extend the 19 wire harness by about 18 inches. One by one I spliced in the extension. It took about 2 hours. I don’t mind the switches in the glove box as I don’t use these (although occasionally I would use the fog lights – maybe I can wire these to come on with the headlights).
One question I think may come up...Why didn't I put the screen in the same location as the factory NAV screen? I don't have factory NAV, I have the 3 gauges, which I like. I did purchase from a forum member a factory nav wood bezel, thinking I would install my screen in that location. I even spent the considerable time cutting out that bezel so my screen would fit, however, during the installation/removal of the factory radio, I decided I didn't want my screen that high up. I also thought that the brightness at night may be annoying (even though I can adjust it).
That’s about all for now. I imagine there will be questions, please feel free to ask. Oh, BTW, please don’t beat me up on the cable management in the trunk…I plan to neaten this up once I have everything settled. Also, I will be placing a screen over the cd changer opening (from the inside) of the carpet covering, and I think I will install a 12 volt fan to vent into the trunk.
At youtube, carpc bootup - YouTube I uploaded a movie of the boot up process/time if you want to see it... sorry that the movie is blurry. Also, attached are some pics, one of which is the Centrafuse main startup screen when the Jaguar roar sound comes on. I made this screen, and I customized the primary Centrafuse screen where it says "Jaguar" at the center bottom.











 
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:08 AM
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Wow. I'm going to need a while to take that all in.

On first look, kudos to you. The install of the screen looks very good, in my opinion.
 
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:21 AM
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Impressive!
 
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:48 AM
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Wow, that's some impressive engineering. Pity you couldn't use my veneer panel after all, but I can understand why you thought the screen would be nicer lower down.

You will now be able to read these threads while actually driving your Jag
 
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:08 AM
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Great job and nice integration Steve! Congrats on getting it done exactly as you wanted.
 
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:16 PM
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That's wicked groovy. I've been wanting to do something like that, I just need to find the time (and motivation). When I get around to doing it I'll definitely be PMing you for advice.

Where'd you find all of the info on how to do it? I've done a little research on mp3car.com, but their info isn't the easiest to sift through.
 
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:54 PM
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Nice. I've been completely reluctant to change my radio because I didn't want to mess up the original factory look. I think I've just changed my mind.

There are lots of PC based OBD-II programs you could run.

I haven't fiddled with Win7 yet. Is your load like a Windows CE or a standard Win7. Did you just strip the registry down to minimum required to get it to start up that fast?

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Old 11-03-2011, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Reverend Sam
That's wicked groovy. I've been wanting to do something like that, I just need to find the time (and motivation). When I get around to doing it I'll definitely be PMing you for advice.

Where'd you find all of the info on how to do it? I've done a little research on mp3car.com, but their info isn't the easiest to sift through.
Sam, there is no one good source for information. I spent quite a bit of time on the forums for mp3car.com and centrfuse. I think centrafuse forums were more helpful, but finding recent information is difficult. Unlike our Jaguarforum, centrafuse forum posts don't go very deep before the posts are quite old and thus irrelevant. Of course, they are delaing with an ever changing technology, yet our forums are relevant almost forever. Anyhow, I had felt as though I had a good understanding when I started, as good as it would get I guess without actually diving into it. I made a few mistakes along the way, but nothing really costly. Feel free to reach out to me and I will provide whatever assistance I can. One thing I found very helpful was to load the 30 day trial of Centrafuse onto my laptop and mess with it. Of course, I didn't have all of the hardware that the car PC had, it was still quite helpful. There were plenty of unknowns with hardware though which I could not answer until it arrived. For instance, what kind of connector for the video was on the touch screen monitor...I know from the specs what it says, and one of the inputs is HDMI, so I bought a DVI to HDMI converter, and a 25 foot HDMI cable to run from the trunk to the cockpit. Well, I hadn't realized I didn't have DVI on the PC, only VGA, so I had to buy a 25 foot VGA cable (get a good one, cheap cables this long wont work well) and a gender changer. Plus, when I ran all my cables from cockpit to trunk, I ran extra cables just in case so I wouldn't have to diassemble the interior again. for instance, I have the VGA cable, the USB (for touch screen), a 25 foot 3.5mm stereo extension cable, a dual RCA audio, and a 5 wire RCA (such as for TV with 2 audio and 3 RGB) cable. The 5 wire, and the dual RCA audio can be used for miscelaneous things, for instance, I use one for running the switched (from the cigarette lighter) voltage to the trunk for the signal for the PC to turn on and off, and then to a PAC timer delay to turn on the amps with a delay. I also use one of the RCA's for the backup camera, and one for the backup lights voltage that needs to go up to the touch screen so the screen auto switches inputs when the gearshift is put in reverse (not mentioned in my initial setup). I can go on an on...but wont.
 
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Old 11-03-2011, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OregonJag
Nice. I've been completely reluctant to change my radio because I didn't want to mess up the original factory look. I think I've just changed my mind.

There are lots of PC based OBD-II programs you could run.

I haven't fiddled with Win7 yet. Is your load like a Windows CE or a standard Win7. Did you just strip the registry down to minimum required to get it to start up that fast?

Thx,
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The ODBII - there are several that are "approved" for use with Centrafuse. Some even communicate with the PC via bluetooth, which is the best option due to the extra wiring otherwise needed. For Win7, it is essentially a standard install. I have not really done anything to "strip it down". The speed that the system boots is largely a factor of the SSD drive, which as I mentioned, SSD is very fast. Also, I don't have a lot of stuff running in the background like a lot of PC's do. For instance, there is no antivirus software running at this time as I am not using the system to connect to the internet (I did connect a few times to load a couple of apps and to register some apps). I will likely install a 4g hotspot though, and will install AV protection if I do end up using the net. I did however turn off a few services that are uneeded, but gained maybe only 2 seconds max doing so. Not for speed, but for more of a "factory" look, I also have turned off the normal boot screen Windows grapghic (GUI) and have just a black screen. I have auto logon set, and when that happens iin the video you see the blue "welcome" screen for a moment, which I since have also changed to just a black screen, so all you really see upon boot up is black screen with white "Welcome" for a brief moment, then the Jaguar logo I created, and then Centrafuse.
 

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Old 11-04-2011, 02:41 AM
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Really like the idea of the Centrafuse, I would consider that for my own set up, I could be picking your brains over this one
 
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Looks really good Steve.

Don't go to far away, I think you may have questions to answer.
 
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:30 AM
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Terrific job, I am not fond of touch screens though . Your set up is great
 
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Great mod Steve. Just put it on the to do list
 
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:47 PM
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Fantastic!! I'll take one!!!

Nice work!
 
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Very nice indeed. Might replace my sat nav with something like this. Great job!
 
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