Change diff ratio on XKR x100
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Hello all
I have been trying to find a viable means of increasing the diff ratio in my x100 from 3,06:1 (today) to somewhere around 3,50:1. The goal is to increase acceleration of course - I do not spend so much time in top gear. Talking of which, I use a manual T56 instead of the auto box which should eliminate some of the reprogramming issues that other people have discussed in various threads. The current diff also has a Quaife LSD which I would like to reuse! Whilst not a must, it would simplify things if the ´new´ diff fits without needing to modify the car (at least not that much anyway!).
Anyone got any suggestions?
I have been trying to find a viable means of increasing the diff ratio in my x100 from 3,06:1 (today) to somewhere around 3,50:1. The goal is to increase acceleration of course - I do not spend so much time in top gear. Talking of which, I use a manual T56 instead of the auto box which should eliminate some of the reprogramming issues that other people have discussed in various threads. The current diff also has a Quaife LSD which I would like to reuse! Whilst not a must, it would simplify things if the ´new´ diff fits without needing to modify the car (at least not that much anyway!).
Anyone got any suggestions?
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Hello all
I have been trying to find a viable means of increasing the diff ratio in my x100 from 3,06:1 (today) to somewhere around 3,50:1. The goal is to increase acceleration of course - I do not spend so much time in top gear. Talking of which, I use a manual T56 instead of the auto box which should eliminate some of the reprogramming issues that other people have discussed in various threads. The current diff also has a Quaife LSD which I would like to reuse! Whilst not a must, it would simplify things if the ´new´ diff fits without needing to modify the car (at least not that much anyway!).
Anyone got any suggestions?
I have been trying to find a viable means of increasing the diff ratio in my x100 from 3,06:1 (today) to somewhere around 3,50:1. The goal is to increase acceleration of course - I do not spend so much time in top gear. Talking of which, I use a manual T56 instead of the auto box which should eliminate some of the reprogramming issues that other people have discussed in various threads. The current diff also has a Quaife LSD which I would like to reuse! Whilst not a must, it would simplify things if the ´new´ diff fits without needing to modify the car (at least not that much anyway!).
Anyone got any suggestions?
I have a 2002 XKR (with a Mercedes transmission) and have made this exact same modification (except I went to a 3.27 vs. a 3.50 rear axel ratio). Based on considerable research on this forum, it is my understanding that if you have the Mercedes transmission (in the US MY 2000 - 2002, in the EU MY 1999 - 2001), then this mod is possible. However, you need to get a new/reprogrammed Transmission Control Module (TCM). I purchased my TCM from another forum member who had it reprogrammed for a 3.27 rear end. It is my understanding that if you have the ZF transmission, then it is not possible to change the rear axel ratio; I can't recall the reason.
I am very happy with my 3.27 and don't think I'd want to go any higher. I like the acceleration with the 3.27 but I took a pretty good hit on gas mileage, loosing 5 or 6 mpgs.
There are forum members, such as avos and XKRacer who are very knowledgeable on these matters so hopefully that will add their 2 cents as well.
Mark
Last edited by mjlaris; 10-24-2014 at 05:02 PM. Reason: added correct EU MY for Mercedes Transmissions
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A diff from a Mexico XK8 or a 3.2 XJ8 Euro car will be 3.27:1
The Sedan diff will need the Jurid flange removed, the pinion shaft round Jurid extension cut off and the U-Joint flange installed to be compatible with the propshaft.
I had to perform this modification to get the 3.2 Sedan diff to fit the XKR and swap over the QUAIF 'internals' to fit Marks car.
bob gauff
The Sedan diff will need the Jurid flange removed, the pinion shaft round Jurid extension cut off and the U-Joint flange installed to be compatible with the propshaft.
I had to perform this modification to get the 3.2 Sedan diff to fit the XKR and swap over the QUAIF 'internals' to fit Marks car.
bob gauff
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A diff from a Mexico XK8 or a 3.2 XJ8 Euro car will be 3.27:1
The Sedan diff will need the Jurid flange removed, the pinion shaft round Jurid extension cut off and the U-Joint flange installed to be compatible with the propshaft.
I had to perform this modification to get the 3.2 Sedan diff to fit the XKR and swap over the QUAIF 'internals' to fit Marks car.
bob gauff
The Sedan diff will need the Jurid flange removed, the pinion shaft round Jurid extension cut off and the U-Joint flange installed to be compatible with the propshaft.
I had to perform this modification to get the 3.2 Sedan diff to fit the XKR and swap over the QUAIF 'internals' to fit Marks car.
bob gauff
98 99 00 01 02 Jaguar XK8 Carrier Assembly EXC Mexico MKT 520151 | eBay
This is the same one I sold to a fellow forum member. If you find a sedan diff it will need the flange swapped over. You can also go with a 6 cyl XJR in either 3.58 or 3.77 & they are already pozi. Again you will need to swap over the flange as well as get the front mounting plate for the diff. This will give you the acceleration you are looking for. The problem may be that Norman's black box may not be compatible with a different ratio. You should check with him before swapping out the diff.
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A Jag xk8 is for "Stylin". Buy a Mustang or Camaro for accelleration. I have 3:73's in the Cobra and first gear is worthless. 3:23's are a good compromise that you can be happy with. The posi makes a huge diference in accelleration due to doubling traction. My old Mustang went from .4 G's to .8 G's of accelleration just by going to a Traction Lok dif. That said, I am swapping out the rear axle to 3:55's this winter.
Just remember, more G's means more wear and tear until something breaks, like an axle, aluminum driveshaft, or a u-joint in your Jaguar.
Just remember, more G's means more wear and tear until something breaks, like an axle, aluminum driveshaft, or a u-joint in your Jaguar.
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The 3.27 diff from a Mexico is a straight bolt in. There is one on Ebay
98 99 00 01 02 Jaguar XK8 Carrier Assembly EXC Mexico MKT 520151 | eBay
You can also go with a 6 cyl XJR in either 3.58 or 3.77 & they are already pozi. Again you will need to swap over the flange as well as get the front mounting plate for the diff. This will give you the acceleration you are looking for. The problem may be that Norman's black box may not be compatible with a different ratio. You should check with him before swapping out the diff.
98 99 00 01 02 Jaguar XK8 Carrier Assembly EXC Mexico MKT 520151 | eBay
You can also go with a 6 cyl XJR in either 3.58 or 3.77 & they are already pozi. Again you will need to swap over the flange as well as get the front mounting plate for the diff. This will give you the acceleration you are looking for. The problem may be that Norman's black box may not be compatible with a different ratio. You should check with him before swapping out the diff.
Last edited by Willafizz; 10-25-2014 at 02:47 PM.
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The 1988-1997 XJ sedans came with or without limited slip diffs.
The V12, XJR and some VDP diffs were power-loc.
The 3.58 limited slip diffs will have a red and yellow striped decal with a black X or line across it.
The red/yellow decal is the 3.58 ratio and the black line denotes limited slip.
The offset in the older diff may or may not fit into the XK propshaft tunnel without side interference. The sedan tunnel is wider.
The XK was designed for the in-line diff unit.
bob gauff
The V12, XJR and some VDP diffs were power-loc.
The 3.58 limited slip diffs will have a red and yellow striped decal with a black X or line across it.
The red/yellow decal is the 3.58 ratio and the black line denotes limited slip.
The offset in the older diff may or may not fit into the XK propshaft tunnel without side interference. The sedan tunnel is wider.
The XK was designed for the in-line diff unit.
bob gauff
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Hi Bob
Do you have a source for Mexican diff's for the XK8 ? I have an LS conversion and a 460l transmission I believe the diff is the same and still at 3.06. I would be interested in finding out more about this mod if possible.
yours
Garry (San Antonio TX) gvs1047@gmail.com
Do you have a source for Mexican diff's for the XK8 ? I have an LS conversion and a 460l transmission I believe the diff is the same and still at 3.06. I would be interested in finding out more about this mod if possible.
yours
Garry (San Antonio TX) gvs1047@gmail.com
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Hi Bob
Do you have a source for Mexican diff's for the XK8 ? I have an LS conversion and a 460l transmission I believe the diff is the same and still at 3.06. I would be interested in finding out more about this mod if possible.
yours
Garry (San Antonio TX) gvs1047@gmail.com
Do you have a source for Mexican diff's for the XK8 ? I have an LS conversion and a 460l transmission I believe the diff is the same and still at 3.06. I would be interested in finding out more about this mod if possible.
yours
Garry (San Antonio TX) gvs1047@gmail.com
if the diff from the XJ40/300 fits it’s a no brainer, much better setup and you can put in any 19 spline dana44 carrier you want
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